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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2019 19:05:14 GMT -5
The poll options are the Justice League runs I am most familiar with. I was curious what people thought about them.
I have graciously excluded anything prior to Crisis as its in a league of its own. For me, "modern" is 1987 onwards (well, 1987 wasn't that long ago, right?). Plus, as stated above, they are the ones I am most familiar with.
I have voted for the JLI era, written by Keith Giffen and J. M. DeMatteis with art by Kevin Maguire. That arc was first published in a UK Superman title - and I fell in love with it. I re-read it as an adult, and I love the character-driven stuff and humour in it. The big battles they have against the likes of the Gray Man are fantastic, but it's the character-driven stuff I enjoy the most.
I did like the JLA comic that began in 1997, written by Grant Morrison. The colours were a bit too bombastic for me, and some of the characters looked like they'd taken steroids, but that's more of an observation than a criticism. I certainly enjoy the stories very much. It all seemed very high-stakes for me, the JLA not doing anything by half.
I did enjoy the run that began in 2006 (do I have that date right?), written by Brad Meltzer. It was solid. I have some fond memories of that one.
But I'm gonna vote for the JLI era.
I know one could have featured other eras here, including Silver Age and Bronze Age. But for the purpose of this topic, I look forward to all and any thoughts on the three options.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2019 19:13:49 GMT -5
JLI for Modern, but early JLA (1960-1970's) pre-Crisis is the best.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2019 19:27:57 GMT -5
I voted for JLA Morrison because the way the team is made up; I still prefer the original JLA that led to the Satellite Era and all that. The JLA Morrison was done in a creative way bringing in Big Barda, Orion, Plastic Man, and the surprisingly good partnership of Green Lantern and the Flash. I just wished they brought in a better artist and Howard Porter was not my favorite.
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Post by Cei-U! on Oct 17, 2019 19:59:22 GMT -5
I haven't read a Justice League comic since shortly after Mark Waid took over JLA from Grant Morrison so I can't comment on anything appearing since then. Although I hate Howard Porter's terrible art, I'll take Morrison's pseudo-Olympian League over the stupidity of the "bwah-ha-ha" crap every time. In the end, though, I prefer the simple absurdities of the original Schwartz-Fox-Sekowsky team followed by the satellite-era JLA.
Cei-U! I summon the Secret Sanctuary!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2019 21:07:43 GMT -5
Morrison's run and Waid's after him were awesome. I agree Porter's art wasn't the best. But the writing was top notch. The threats were perfect and definitely needed the entire team. The character work was tremendous and I felt Morrison found new and unique ways to highlight each character's strengths.
I have to add that time was a great time for team comics with Morrison/Waid's JLA, Johns reviving JSA. Ellis/Hitch Authority. And Busiek & Perez on Avengers.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Oct 17, 2019 21:20:14 GMT -5
I liked the early days of JLI at the time. Haven't read the books in 25 plus years, so who knows how they'd hold up.
I thought Morrison's JLA was fine. But it wasn't all that everyone raved about it. It just seemed good because the Justice League had been incredibly dire for quite some time. And Porter's art was horrible.
I've read nothing since then.
I voted JLI for nostalgia's sake.
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Post by badwolf on Oct 17, 2019 21:24:25 GMT -5
It's a tough call between the first two. I really enjoyed JL(A/I) at the time, but I wonder if I'd like so much humor now. (I'd like to give it another read, and hope someone will buy me the omnibus off my wish list...) Kevin Maguire's art is great; I liked Bart Sears at the time but now I don't.
Morrison's (& Waid's) stories were fantastic, brought down somewhat by poor art. It was such a breath of fresh air when Bryan Hitch took over. But the stories were mind-blowing and very re-readable.
I tried some of Meltzer's run and the stories were typical of the time, drawn-out overlong and unnecessarily complex arcs with unsatisfying conclusions. And I don't like Benes' scritchy-scratchy angryface art at all.
I guess in the end I'd go with Morrison.
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Post by profh0011 on Oct 17, 2019 21:31:59 GMT -5
Geez. I have to say, I don't recall reading any comments one way or the other about Howard Porter in all these years, but then, I wasn't really paying attention.
I got 4 issues into his run and then QUIT. It just wasn't "doing it" for me!!
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Oct 18, 2019 3:25:27 GMT -5
Howard Porter is a pretty great artist if you ignore the way he draws people! I think he's really good at pacing and framing over the top Epic moments.
My favorite JLA will always be a 4 way tie between Fox/Sekowsky, Wein/Dillin, Giffen/DeMatteis/Maguire and Morrison/Porter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 6:17:08 GMT -5
What I did like about Morrison's run is that the threats did feel like they required the JLA, which Michael stated a few posts back.
I know it's hard for writers of Avengers and JLA tales to come up with threats to entire teams. And one can risk contrivances. I could be remembering incorrectly, but during the JLI era, didn't Doctor Fate go AWOL at times? I may be reading too much into it, but when I read those tales through adult eyes, I wondered if it was just a writer contriving Fate's absence because he was too powerful. That may be unfair of me, though.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 18, 2019 6:17:50 GMT -5
I voted for the Morrison era and I prefer Porters art over Dick Dillans art any day of the week. Somehow , Porters art fit the stories that were being told. He did deliver on the larger than life sequences that Morrison featured.
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Post by brutalis on Oct 18, 2019 7:48:01 GMT -5
While there were things to like within the JLI time, I have to give KUDOS to the Morrison "God" JLA as it took the team to heights of creativity not felt in the group. Lots of new ideas, villains and visually I enjoyed the heck out of Porter's art.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Oct 18, 2019 8:00:49 GMT -5
The JLA is the only Morrison I've really gotten into... I loved the Giffen JLI when I first read it, but I'm not sure it would hold up if I re-read it.. there's ALOT of silly things in there.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 18, 2019 8:07:21 GMT -5
I didn’t really like the Giffen jla. I had the complete runs of both books until I came to my senses and sold them.
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Post by rberman on Oct 18, 2019 8:33:58 GMT -5
JLA have never been my favorite, and I haven't read the JLI years. Of what I've read, I'd rank it 1. Morrison, 2. satellite, 3. Detroit. I liked Porter's art more than Dillin, although that may not be saying much. Within satellite, Englehart then Conway then O'Neil then the rest. Let's pause for a moment of silence to remember the Dharlu, the alien being which the JLA enslaved to keep their satellite computers working properly. Not cool!
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