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Post by dbutler69 on Oct 19, 2019 15:20:51 GMT -5
Or an All-Star Squadron/Invaders team up. Of course Roy Thomas would have to write it. Heck, he could even throw in the Liberty Legion! Freedom Fighters. All Winners Squad. Oh, good call. Especially the Freedom Fighters. I should have thought of that! |
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Post by dbutler69 on Oct 19, 2019 15:22:35 GMT -5
Or an All-Star Squadron/Invaders team up. Of course Roy Thomas would have to write it. Heck, he could even throw in the Liberty Legion! It was kind of shocking, given Roy Thomas' obsession with all things "Golden Age"... but sometime back, I got ahold of the very 1st "FEMFORCE" comic-- a "SPECIAL" set in WW2. And it struck me as being MORE fun than all the Roy Thomas WW2 comics I'd ever read!
I had to google that. Never heard of them. It does sound interesting. Cheesecake? |
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Post by hondobrode on Oct 20, 2019 1:33:15 GMT -5
Morrison, being Morrison, was the perfect writer to come up with some really jacked up bizarre villains and threats.
I've never understood the Howard Porter hate; not the greatest but certainly not deserving of the what I've read online IMHO.
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Post by rberman on Oct 20, 2019 6:10:20 GMT -5
Morrison, being Morrison, was the perfect writer to come up with some really jacked up bizarre villains and threats. I've never understood the Howard Porter hate; not the greatest but certainly not deserving of the what I've read online IMHO. I liked him too. OK, he's not Perez, but better than Dillin surely. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 20, 2019 6:46:18 GMT -5
Really good writing can cover up for mediocre art. Shooters second Avengers run was very enjoyable despite having subpar artists at the beginning.
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Post by hondobrode on Oct 20, 2019 12:47:02 GMT -5
Morrison, being Morrison, was the perfect writer to come up with some really jacked up bizarre villains and threats. I've never understood the Howard Porter hate; not the greatest but certainly not deserving of the what I've read online IMHO. I liked him too. OK, he's not Perez, but better than Dillin surely. He was driving a bus after that and injured his drawing hand, his right I think. He did what Frank Frazetta did in the same situation; he re-wired his brain by using his other hand. After practicing that, he got on the Flash years later, and honestly, like Frank, his work improved. |
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Post by profh0011 on Oct 20, 2019 15:48:23 GMT -5
I had to google that. Never heard of them. It does sound interesting. Cheesecake? Pretty much.
Bill Black is an interesting character, and one of my heroes in a way. He started out doing fanzines in the late 60s. Then in the early 80s, he transitioned to doing "professional" comics during the "independant" boom. At some point, his comics output shrunk and was only availble thru advance Diamond orders, or via his AC Comics website. But he also began producing direct-to-DVD movies based on his own comics!!! For decades he worked in "film production" in Florida, so the comics was always a side line. At times I've thought he had the kind of career I wished I'd had.
I've heard that FEMFORCE is one of the longest-running "independant" comics, as it's been going since the early 80s!!
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Post by Cei-U! on Oct 20, 2019 19:22:25 GMT -5
Morrison, being Morrison, was the perfect writer to come up with some really jacked up bizarre villains and threats. I've never understood the Howard Porter hate; not the greatest but certainly not deserving of the what I've read online IMHO. I liked him too. OK, he's not Perez, but better than Dillin surely. By what measure? Dillin had a better grasp of anatomy, a better (if quieter) sense of panel composition, and designed his page layouts to serve the story rather than distract from it. I'm not a big Dillin fan by any stretch of the imagination but I'd much rather look at his JLA than Porter's.
Cei-U! I summon the varying degrees of technical proficiency!
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Oct 21, 2019 0:08:40 GMT -5
I liked him too. OK, he's not Perez, but better than Dillin surely. By what measure? Dillin had a better grasp of anatomy, a better (if quieter) sense of panel composition, and designed his page layouts to serve the story rather than distract from it. I'm not a big Dillin fan by any stretch of the imagination but I'd much rather look at his JLA than Porter's.
Cei-U! I summon the varying degrees of technical proficiency!
I never found Porter's stuff particularly hard to follow, and his page designs and "camera" work were top notch. I kinda agree with you about individual panel composition (and def. agree re: anatomy!) but I always thought the holistic whole of Porter's pages were creative, interesting and well thought out. What I want in comic art is 50% flash 50% substance, so Porter is much closer to my ideal artist than Dillin was. Although... Dillin could deliver quiet moments of heartbreaking emotion, like the exhausted Flash saying "I won" after out-racing Superman in JLA # 199. I never thought he quite played to his own strengths in superhero work, but I do think D. D. might be slightly under-rated as well. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 21, 2019 6:09:23 GMT -5
Dillan was a pro all the way, but his JLA run was very bland. I wonder in a what if? universe how much more the JLA would have been regarded had John Buscema done the art? I have to take Porter over Dillan, take a look at my post that had two defining panels from Porter. I can't remember Dillan ever producing some splash page that lives on today as classic.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 9:36:13 GMT -5
Dillan was a pro all the way, but his JLA run was very bland. I wonder in a what if? universe how much more the JLA would have been regarded had John Buscema done the art? I have to take Porter over Dillan, take a look at my post that had two defining panels from Porter. I can't remember Dillan ever producing some splash page that lives on today as classic. You made your point clear ... I understand your rationale. |
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Post by MDG on Oct 21, 2019 10:09:37 GMT -5
Dillan was a pro all the way, but his JLA run was very bland. I wonder in a what if? universe how much more the JLA would have been regarded had John Buscema done the art? .... Yeah--looking at the pages/panels reproduced in the "JLA in the 70s" thread, I've been tempted to broach the subject of the mediocre art. Dillin tells the story, but that's about it--it doesn't feel like he's going out of his way to try to "milk" it. I don't think he's helped by McLaughlin's inking either. They get the job done, but that's about it. |
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