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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 17:51:13 GMT -5
What if Crisis on Infinite Earths had never been published?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 17:59:45 GMT -5
1. What if Marvel didn't get the Star Wars license to save them from their late 70s financial crisis?
2. What if Marvel didn't buy Heroes World setting into motion the chain of events that created the Diamond monopoly?
3. What if someone had the chutzpah to tell Wertham he was full of sh*t and there were no Congressional hearings about the dangers of comic books?
4. What if Will Eisner had remained in comics instead of going on to produce the PS monthly for the military and produced something like A Contract with God decades earlier?
5. What if DC hadn't hired Jeanette Khan as publisher?
6. What if DC decided to use Alan Moore's story with the original Charlton heroes instead of producing Watchmen?
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 8, 2019 18:28:06 GMT -5
What if Crisis on Infinite Earths had never been published? I might still be reading DC.
Cei-U! I summon the residual bitterness!
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 8, 2019 20:52:33 GMT -5
What if Martin Goodman agreed to put Kirby on salary, with health benefits, so he stays at Marvel?
What if Siegel & Shuster had consulted a lawyer, before getting steamrolled by National? What if they had cut a deal like Bob Kane?
What if the comic book publishers had presented a united front to the Congressional hearings and brought in experts to refute Wertham?
What if Warner had tendered an offer of a stock exchange, similar to the ultimate Toy Biz deal, to Marvel's bankruptcy court?
What if DC had honorably abided by their contract with Alan Moore & Dave Gibbons, on Watchmen?
What if Eclipse had not loss the majority of there back issue inventory when the Russian River flooded, in 1986? What if they ad been on time with payments owed to Neil Gaiman?
What if First Comics decides not to revive the Classics Illustrated line and doesn't have all of their capital tied up in trying to launch them into book stores?
What if Mike Friedrich had agreed to publish Cerebus?
What if Bill Mantlo had never taken up rollerblading?
What if the Justice Department had blocked the sale of Capital Distribution to Diamond?
What if DC had let Alan Moore use the Charlton characters?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 21:02:04 GMT -5
What if Bob Kane used his original Batman costume design for Detective Comics #27??...  |
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Post by Calidore on Dec 8, 2019 22:24:06 GMT -5
That looks fascinating. Got it tabbed for later. Thanks! |
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Post by Duragizer on Dec 9, 2019 3:44:21 GMT -5
What if Crisis on Infinite Earths had never been published? What if the post- Crisis Earth had been built from the ground up, with great care and deliberation? |
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Post by Duragizer on Dec 9, 2019 3:47:29 GMT -5
What if Zero Hour had a purpose beyond flipping fans of the pre-Crisis multiverse the bird?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 6:28:33 GMT -5
What if Fawcett had won against DC? Would Capt Marvel be bigger than Superman?
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 9, 2019 10:35:38 GMT -5
What if Martin Goodman never hired Stanley Lieberman as a young assistant ? Lieber. No "man."
Cei-U! I summon the red pencil!
I knew that ** embarrassed ** |
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 9, 2019 11:40:29 GMT -5
What if Fawcett had won against DC? Would Capt Marvel be bigger than Superman? Fawcett did win. National was appealing the judgement when Fawcett decided to settle the case and cease publishing Captain Marvel, as sales were down and the legal battle was too big a cash drain. |
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Post by mikelmidnight on Dec 9, 2019 12:57:27 GMT -5
What if DC had let Alan Moore use the Charlton characters?
Or:
What if Moore had gone to a different publisher, say Dell Publications, and sold them on the possibility inherent in the medium, so the story had come out featuring Nukla, Dracula, Fleeta, Wolfman, Frankenstein, and Brain Boy?
What if Marvel had purchased the Lev Gleason inventory so Daredevil, Silver Streak and the rest were available to be the Liberty Legion?
What if Mark Grunewald had wound up at DC, and/or E Nelson Bridwell at Marvel?
What if DC had allowed Marston's widow to take over Wonder Woman, as she had proposed?
What if comic distributors in the 70s hadn't fudged numbers on certain collectible books by claiming false returns, so that DC got reliable numbers on how well Neal Adams' and Jack Kirby's comics were actually selling?
What if Harvey Kurtzman had never left Mad Magazine?
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Post by MDG on Dec 9, 2019 13:14:30 GMT -5
What if Harvey Kurtzman had never left Mad Magazine?
That's a real interesting one--MAD was already successful when he left, but would it have grown like it did with him in charge? His follow up projects were well done, but never found an audience. It would've been interesting to see if Trump would have succeeded had Hef been able to continue it, but Kurtzman seemed to get in his own way (Hefner: “I gave Harvey Kurtzman an unlimited budget, and he exceeded it.”)
How about: What if postwar experiments like Biro's Tops and It Rhymes with Lust caught on and a market for adult comics grew in the 50s?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 13:18:45 GMT -5
What if John Byrne had remained in the UK and worked exclusively for the UK industry? I'm a JB fan. I could have imagined him working on titles like Eagle and Scream!. Or writing/drawing for various licensed comics over here.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 9, 2019 13:33:30 GMT -5
What if Harvey Kurtzman had never left Mad Magazine?
That's a real interesting one--MAD was already successful when he left, but would it have grown like it did with him in charge? His follow up projects were well done, but never found an audience. It would've been interesting to see if Trump would have succeeded had Hef been able to continue it, but Kurtzman seemed to get in his own way (Hefner: “I gave Harvey Kurtzman an unlimited budget, and he exceeded it.”)
Kurtzman always seemed to be in a situation where money was tight. Everything I've seen indicates that sales for Trump were pretty decent, especially for a new, fairly expensive magazine. But it also hit when Hefner was in a major money crunch. Hef scaled back across the board for a few years and Trump was one of the victims. Humbug was undercapitalized and its small size made it disappear on the newsstand. Help! lasted a little longer but was generally under-capitalized. I think the problem was always going to be one of Kurtzman over-reaching his budget. If he had hit Hefner at the right time it might have worked out. But Gaines didn't have the kind of pockets that Hef had and I think there's a good chance that a Mad that was continued to be driven by Kurtzman could have collapsed under the costs. Keep in mind that Terry Gilliam met John Cleese while working for Help! If Kurtzman stays at Mad that likely doesn't happen and the entire course of Monty Python could have changed dramatically. |
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