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Post by beccabear67 on Dec 22, 2019 13:19:00 GMT -5
There was a fair bit of Jack Kirby in it I thought (however uninformative), but it was movie/tv centered. As with a lot of 'comic cons' these days it's almost a bonus if there is any comic book content. I expected well over half would be about movies, tv and Stan's cameos, and that's what it was. There was a figure in one of the drawings that could've been meant to be Steve Ditko...  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 13:37:02 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, Mech, which store did Jeff run? Maybe we've crossed paths. Cei-U! I summon the northwest connection! He ran a private Comic Book Store from 1987 to 2007 ... it was in Auburn from 1987 to 1992; took a year off to re-organized and moved it in 1994 to his 1st home in Federal Way and got a special license to run it from 1994 to 2004. He sold his business and became a silent partner to gentleman that I hardly knew back in 2005. It was basically had no name because it was privately owned along with three of his buddies that I knew so well; and sadly they decided to not to have a name and chiefly ran it by a word of mouth and kept his customer base to a loyal few. I went to a Comic Book Store by the old Lamonts Store in Burien because I did not want to drive that far and he wanted no notoriety and all that. They kept it simple and easy and did it for fun. This is all I know and now it going on 2020 in a few days and my memory is not all that cracked up to be and spending a lot of time on my club and won't be here that much in 2020. I'm pretty sure that you've not crossed path and the store was a hour drive from Burien and its on the outskirts of Auburn. This is the best answer that I can give you here. |
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Post by spoon on Dec 22, 2019 15:00:15 GMT -5
It lost me in the first five minutes, as soon as Jimmy Kimmel called Stan one of the most important writers and artists of the Twentieth Century. The historian in me was offended, if not disgusted, at the way it minimized the contributions of his co-creators. They didn't even mention Steve Ditko's name. An hour I'll never get back. Cei-U! I summon the huge waste of time! Yeah, while the point was to memorialize Stan for having died last year, they created a false impression by barely mentioning his co-creators. Even the mention of the Marvel Method left out the names of the artists doing that extra plotting work. I think Jack Kirby was mentioned more prominently during the discussion of 1940s than the 1960s. And the historian in me was offended by playing the clip, without correction, of Stan stating he answered an ad in the newspaper to get his job. He got the job through his family. Publisher Martin Goodman was the husband of a cousin. |
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Post by tarkintino on Dec 22, 2019 17:32:17 GMT -5
I would say--in all seriousness--that Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster had a greater impact/influence on popular culture / the concept of "modern" heroic fiction / licensed character merchandising than Lee could ever dream of. If they were not the explosive game-changers they were, there would have never been a comic book medium so centered/marketed on super-powered and/or costumed characters, which it remains to this day. One might even argue the industry might not exist today. Their creation was the gravitational pull most publishers have never escaped from in one way or another--including, and quite obviously Timely/Atlas/Marvel.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 22, 2019 23:06:38 GMT -5
I would say--in all seriousness--that Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster had a greater impact/influence on popular culture / the concept of "modern" heroic fiction / licensed character merchandising than Lee could ever dream of. If they were not the explosive game-changers they were, there would have never been a comic book medium so centered/marketed on super-powered and/or costumed characters, which it remains to this day. One might even argue the industry might not exist today. Their creation was the gravitational pull most publishers have never escaped from in one way or another--including, and quite obviously Timely/Atlas/Marvel. That's probably true, but it's also true that Stan Lee's creations have made more money and being more a part of popular culture... which is why I say he should be more celebrated for his marketing than his writing. |
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