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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 21, 2019 9:13:20 GMT -5
One of the stated purposes of the crossover is to gin up interest in a character by introducing him/her/it to an audience that might not otherwise cross his/her/its path. I certainly can’t argue with this logic because it worked on me, most notably with 4. Spider-Man and Nightcrawler, The Amazing Spider-Man #161-62 (Marvel, 1976)
I’d heard rumors of the “all new, all different” X-Men but, aside from Wolverine's debut in Incredible Hulk, I knew zilch about this new team of mutants before picking up this two-part Spidey classic-to-be off the spinner rack in the University District’s Bartell Drugs. I was even more fanatical about Len Wein and Ross Andru’s Spidey run than I was Gerry Conway and Andru’s, so I was going to enjoy these issues anyway. That it featured the return of The Punisher and the debut of his arch-foe Jigsaw was a bonus, for sure. But this was my introduction to a swashbuckling mutant teleporter named Kurt Wagner, a character who quickly became one of my all-time favorites, which he remains to this day. This was very early in Nightcrawler’s career and many of the attributes I love about the elf weren’t yet in place. Still, between Dave Cockrum’s eye-popping design (superbly rendered here by Ross the Boss), a fascinating set of powers, and the kind of personality that meshed with the mag's webslinging star, it was love at first sight. The day after buying AS-M #161, I scoured all the usual outlets until I found the latest X-Men (#101, if memory serves) and bought it and every subsequent issue for the next ten years. Mission accomplished, Marvel! Cei-U! I summon the “bamf”!
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 21, 2019 9:23:07 GMT -5
4. Spider-man & Red SonjaMarvel Team-Up #79 (Marvel, 1979); by Chris Claremont, John Byrne and Terry Austin Already picked, several times (as I expected it would be). In lieu of a write-up, I’ll just quote verbatim a 100-word review of this issue I wrote for the Bronze Age Babies a few years ago, because it concisely covers the premise and my thoughts on the story: I would just add – and this is something that’s been noted about this issue many times before, including earlier in these 12 days posts – that it also counts as a bit of an understated, or perhaps ‘stealth’, crossover, because one panel shows Clark Kent in the Bugle newsroom.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 21, 2019 9:27:03 GMT -5
4. Spider-Man and Nightcrawler, The Amazing Spider-Man #161-62 (Marvel, 1976) Nice to see this story getting a little love - I considered it for my own list, but then it ultimately didn't make the cut. By the way, issue #162 was one of the earliest issues of ASM I ever had, so that cover is seared into my brain and gives me a pleasant rush of nostalgia whenever I see it. And I'm also quite fond of Len Wein's run on ASM.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 9:54:02 GMT -5
4. G.I. Joe and the Transformers (Marvel, 1986-87): G.I. Joe and Transformers are two of my favourite franchises of the 80s, toy-wise, comic-wise and cartoon-wise. So this one was a dream crossover for me! G.I. Joe are a military organisation featuring the cream of the crop from various armed forces. They battle Cobra, a terrorist organisation intent on ruling the world. Meanwhile, the Transformers features the heroic Autobots battling the evil Decepticons, all of whom are from a planet called Cybertron. They brought their war to Earth millions of years ago but lay dormant in a volcano for millennia. What's not to like, people?!!! These are the kinds of battles I had via my toys back then. But sometimes it's nice to put those toys away and let someone else present the battle. Marvel did this over four issues between 1986 and 1987. Cobra want to rule the world, but the Decepticons want to destroy it. They need the energy our planet has in order to return to Cybertron. Earth is "collateral damage" to them. So this crossover, which initially features a Cobra/Decepticon alliance, ends with G.I. Joe, the Autobots and Cobra forced to team up to save the Earth. The stakes were indeed high! You'd have to be a fan of either series to enjoy this. But for me it's an incredibly entertaining tale. And one I never expected to happen. While Marvel did publish both worlds, I just presumed they would stick to their own continuity - and that crossovers would be left to my toys. So not only was this a nice surprise, but if you are a fan of both series, I think it's an incredibly solid tale. I'm not gonna claim it's the greatest comic series ever. Or that it'll be discussed in the same breath as Watchmen. But as the CCF tradition is about what is personal to us, this is my pick for the ninth day of Christmas.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 21, 2019 10:05:46 GMT -5
4. Batgirl and Robin, Take Twofrom Batman Family #3 (1976) by Elliot S. Maggin and José Luis García-López When I first started collecting the Batman Family books, it was mostly because I believed it was a team-up title between Batgirl and Robin. My mistake. They work together (I believe) six times across 20 issues, and most of those times weren't particularly memorable. But their second outing is a favorite of mine. Whereas the first team-up was all about proving Batgirl's superiority to Robin in a new age of feminism, this story shows a more evenly balanced partnership, Batgirl still the senior member of the duo, but the two having a meaningful synergy all the same: which gets expressed best at the conclusion, where Robin thinks he's so clever for deducing Batgirl's identity, only to discover that she's done the same for him: This was everything the Batman Family title had the potential to be, and it's a damn shame that editorial drove the title in a totally different direction, exploring the characters separately and apart from each other as much as possible for fear of suggesting that a 20-something-year-old might be romantically interested in a teenager.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 21, 2019 10:46:36 GMT -5
4. Spider-Man and the Human Torch - Spider-Man/Human Torch mini-series (Marvel, 2005) This has already been picked once by coke & comics , but here it is again. I love this mini-series so much. It's a brilliant examination of the way in which the Human Torch and Spider-Man's relationship has grown over the years. The unashamedly retro artwork of Ty Templeton really suits the nostalgic vibe of the mini-series, while Dan Slott's script is lighthearted, action-packed, and littered with neat references to Marvel continuity. Each of the five parts of the series are set during different periods of Spidey and the Torch's careers: the first issue is set during the early Silver Age, second during the mid-Silver Age, third in the early Bronze Age, and so on. It goes all the way up to what was then the current continuity of J. Michael Straczynski's run on Amazing Spider-Man, and Slott does a nice job of referencing the new spider-centric powers that Peter Parker had gained during the then-recent "The Other" storyline. Slott also does a pretty nice job of writing dialogue that seems era-appropriate in each installment; so, the earlier issues have somewhat old-fashioned sounding dialogue, which becomes more modernised as the series progresses. You know, thinking about it, this might be the best thing Slott's ever written, actually. Anyway, Spider-Man/Human Torch is such a great read. It's shamelessly nostalgic, yes, but it's also briliantly written, gorgeously drawn, stedfastly respectful of continuity, and has plenty of genuine laugh-out-loud moments in it. It really is a "must read" for any fan of Spidey or the Torch's.
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Post by rberman on Dec 21, 2019 12:40:43 GMT -5
#4: The Tick and Elektra in "Night of the Million Zillion Ninjas" (The Tick #3-5, 1996, Ben Edlund) Frank Miller’s Elektra saga in Daredevil was both popular and deadly serious, two factors ensuring that parodies would be forthcoming. The first was arguably the indie favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, now a perennial kids’ favorite. But a closer parody was to be found in Ben Edlund’s satirical series The Tick. Having mocked Superman endlessly in the first two issues, Edlund’s story (and its sequel, “Early Morning of the Million Zillion Ninjas”) found a sai-wielding woman named "Oedipus" (a joke for you Sophocles fans, both of you) taking refuge under The Tick’s wing from, well, the title says it all. The Tick’s invulnerability makes a mockery of the human striving which Miller portrayed in samurai stand-ins like Matt Murdock and Logan, but Edlund sells it well through creditable staging and art detail.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 21, 2019 13:26:04 GMT -5
4. Tarzan and Batmanin Batman/Tarzan : Claws of the Cat #1 (1999, Dark Horse).This is a no-brainer, as Tarzan and Batman were my favourite heroes when I was 4. Even before Tintin and Astérix. And here, we get them together in a comic-book that the authors had the excellent idea to set in the characters' original time period, during the early 20th century. It looks absolutely classic! (I still get shivers looking at that first handshake!!!) Writer Ron Marz gives us a tantalizing first chapter hinting at lost cities, ancient civilizations, still-active cults and nefarious plundering by unscrupulous villains. This book's Catwoman, an African priestess with an Egyptian name, is a great creation. Meanwhile, Igor Kordey proves that he is one of the very best artists of the late '90s and early '00s, with gorgeous page after gorgeous page. And another artist absolutely deserves to be named here: colorist Chris Chuckry, who does an outstanding job!!! I never got to read the end of this limited series, having found the first chapter in a dollar bin... but I will keep an eye open, for if the rest of the story is as good as the opening, this is a keeper! Nananananananananana--- YodelioooOOOOoooooOOOOOooooooo!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 13:55:25 GMT -5
On the ninth day of Christmas, I was once again visited by the Ghost of Christmas Vengeance, this time with a ghost breaker in tow... The Spectre and Dr. Terrence Thirteen in Ghosts #97-99 (DC; 1981) While Paul Kupperberg and Michael Adams are no Fleischer/Aparo, they do channel the vibe of these stories form Adventure in these three interconnected stories. Dr. Thirteen has given up ghostbreaking, but is attending a seance held by a friend and when a crime occurs in the wake of Terrence proving the swami a fraud, the Spectre arrives to deliver justice, setting Dr. Thirteen the trail of trying to end Spectre's reign of terror and debunk the ghostly appearance. He an a reporter (who appeared a few times in the Adventure run) discover a link between Corrigan and the Spectre and the trail eventually leads to Thirteen investigating his father's partner and the circumstances of his father's death. The resolution puts Thirteen back in the ghostbreaking business, which had been part of the Spectre's mission from the higher powers all along (as well eliminating the violent criminals he encountered). A lot of my joy in these three stories is in accidentally discovering them after I had completed the Adventure run and thinking there were no new (non Golden Age and thus affordable) Spectre stories for me to discover and happening across the cover of #97 in a quarter bin at a comic shop and seeing the Spectre. It was the pre-internet age and a lot of collecting depended upon chance discovery if you didn't know what to look for, a check into an Overstreet guide to see if there were other Spectre stories in Ghosts (a title I had ignored all through my youth and early collecting years), yielded the info that 98 and 99 also had Spectre stories. A return visit to the same shop yielded a copy of #99, but #98 eluded me for years (in fact, I got to read it in the Spectre Showcase volume long before I ever found a copy, which only happened a few months ago at the last show I attended this year, which put this story back on my radar for this year's event here). It's not great comics by any stretch, but it's fun and holds a place in my collector heart. -M
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Post by DubipR on Dec 21, 2019 14:25:48 GMT -5
4. Batman/Tarzan: Claws of the Catwoman 1-4Written by: Ron Marz Drawn by: Igor Kordey Dark Horse Comics 1999 The Lord of the Jungle meets The Batman. A match made in heaven. Two jungles. Two protectors, one enemy that brings them together. When Bruce Wayne's funding for treasure of Africa come back, a tribe comes back to reclaim what is rightfully thiers, Bruce Wayne and Lord Greystoke work together to return what was wrongfully taken. If you ever meet Ron Marz, I highly recommend talking ERB with him. You'll have the best times of hearing stories he has proposed to the ERB estate and might show you some cool Tarzan things on his phone. He's a dye-in-the-wool Tarzan fanatic. This was a perfect mini to showcase two pulp legends teaming up in a way that is so much fun. Marz showing the dichotomy between the two, that each protector's rules rub the wrong way but each justify their actions and respect eachother. The laws of Gotham versus the jungle.. both savage in their own way and ruled differently when both Tarzan and Batman step outside their normal boundaries. Igor Kordey's art I truly enjoy. He's a master of tension and action.. from drawing a bull gorilla to Batman fighting nasty enemies, his art was perfect in every way. Also a big ERB fan (look at his other Tarzan comic stuff he's done as well Carson of Venus). Four issues of high adventure that is gorgeously paced, lush pencils and inks... I love his work so much My favorite scene in the series is how Tarzan deduces Bruce Wayne is Batman.. brilliant beyond words. I won't spoil it, but's perfect
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Post by beccabear67 on Dec 21, 2019 16:08:14 GMT -5
4. Iron Man & The HulkIron Man #131 & 132 (February & March 1980, Marvel) David Michelinie & Bob Layton, Jerry Bingham, Bob Layton After calming down a traffic situation with the Hulk on the road, Tony Stark and Bruce Banner put their collective scientific heads together to 'cure' Bruce. They end up with Hulk's mind in Bruce's body! Uh oh... not quite the combination they were aiming for. The technological gob-stopper/Hulk-stopper is a bust and it's Iron Man alone to face the green one with his greatest ever punch. Pathos, action and humor... this team-up turned into a vs. has it all, and at the end both are down for the count and Tony is trapped within his own overloaded and sealed off armor (cue the all new Ant-Man to the rescue for #133 in a replay of Avengers #93, but that was chosen earlier this year by another poster). I loved every comic Jerry Bingham penciled at this time!
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Post by foxley on Dec 21, 2019 18:56:45 GMT -5
4. Batman/Zatanna, "Trusts"/"Depths", Detective Comics #833-834 (DC, 2007)Sometimes the entries on my list surprise even me. Soon after I started compiling my list, I realised that Zatanna was going to have to be on it. She is a favourite character of mine, and was around for a long time before getting any kind of feature of her own, meaning that all of her early appearances were crossovers. Later she became the go to character for heroes needing magical advice in the DC Universe. (She is certainly more approachable than Dr. Fate.) My first thought was "Z is for Zatanna...and Zero Hour!", but as a Justice League comic, I wasn't sure of eligibility, so I started casting around for another. I initially didn't think I was going to go for something this late (it's the most recent comic on my list), but it just kept pushing itself to the top of the list. A bare bones summary of the plot: When her former assistant is killed in a dangerous trick gone wrong, the Maid of Magic turns to Batman to uncover the real circumstances behind the young woman's death, leading them to a confrontation with the mysterious illusionist Ivar Loxias — and an ultimately terrifying revelation. However, the reason I love this tale is for what it establishes about the background of the characters. In recent years (for given values of 'recent'), it has been established that Bruce Wayne and Zatanna had a friendship (and possible romance) before Bruce adopted the mantle of the bat. I believe this idea originated on Batman:The Animated Series (as did so many great ideas). While this had been accepted as canon in the mainstream DC Universe, very little ink had been devoted to the origin of this friendship. This story by Paul Dini ( the premier Zatanna writer) changes all of that. Through a series of flashbacks, we learn out the origin of this odd friendship. And it is done beautifully and believably. I believe that these two disparate characters have an enduring friendship that could easily turn romantic if they weren't afraid of what that might do to the friendship. Nobody writes Zatanna as well as Dini (and if you haven't read his Zatanna series that was cruelly cut short by DC deciding to reboot the universe yet again, then you're being a fool to yourself and a burden to others). One nice point in the main story (rather than the flashbacks) is that illustrates some aspects of Zee's personality that other writers ignore (or forget): that she is cool under pressure, and thinks outside the box, both essential talents for a stage magician. Trapped in a drowning box with her throat cut so she cannot speak her spells, she comes up with a solution that even the Joker didn't foresee. And while Don Kramer would not have been my first choice to illustrate the story, his art is more than adequate. So top hat, tails, fishnets and just a dash of 'friendship is magic' earns this story my rebmun ruof tols.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 21, 2019 19:09:10 GMT -5
#4: The Tick and Elektra in "Night of the Million Zillion Ninjas" (The Tick #3-5, 1996, Ben Edlund) Frank Miller’s Elektra saga in Daredevil was both popular and deadly serious, two factors ensuring that parodies would be forthcoming. The first was arguably the indie favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, now a perennial kids’ favorite. But a closer parody was to be found in Ben Edlund’s satirical series The Tick. Having mocked Superman endlessly in the first two issues, Edlund’s story (and its sequel, “Early Morning of the Million Zillion Ninjas”) found a sai-wielding woman named "Oedipus" (a joke for you Sophocles fans, both of you) taking refuge under The Tick’s wing from, well, the title says it all. The Tick’s invulnerability makes a mockery of the human striving which Miller portrayed in samurai stand-ins like Matt Murdock and Logan, but Edlund sells it well through creditable staging and art detail. "Think hedge....Think hedge...."
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Post by foxley on Dec 21, 2019 19:15:00 GMT -5
a sai-wielding woman named "Oedipus" (a joke for you Sophocles fans, both of you) That's the trouble with comics today! Not enough Sophocles jokes!
I blame the new generation of comic readers!
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 21, 2019 19:42:50 GMT -5
#4: The Tick and Elektra in "Night of the Million Zillion Ninjas" (The Tick #3-5, 1996, Ben Edlund) Oooh... clever choice I did not consider. Perhaps the funniest comic story I've ever read. My favorite scene is when the ninjas brilliantly disguise themselves as a hedge.
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