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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 28, 2020 13:56:49 GMT -5
I am always a little surprised at people who don't understand what is and is not an "insect". I can get the confusion about spiders, but snails? Well, Fox was a lawyer by training, not a biologist... 20 years later, Fox would give us the Queen Bee in JLA #23, which has the advantage of, well, being a thing, unlike a "king bee". I suppose it would have been unseemly for the JSA to take on a female villain in 1943, though. And just imagine how a female villain would have played out in one of the Golden Age Spectre's solo stories...which we did see a few times in the 70's Adventure Comics run.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jul 30, 2020 23:07:41 GMT -5
And just imagine how a female villain would have played out in one of the Golden Age Spectre's solo stories...which we did see a few times in the 70's Adventure Comics run. Of course, the purpose of a female villain was to provide the hero with a potential love interest - someone the hero is tempted by despite themselves; someone who is attracted to the good guy. It's a trope I find boring and of no particular interest personally, but I would have loved to have seen what sort of woman would be drawn towards The Spectre and vice versa. Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, I can understand; but a walking corpse in a cape? I suppose Fox would have just used such an idea to reinforce his interpretation of The Spectre as no different from any other hero, but handled right, it would have been rife with macabre possibilities.
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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 31, 2020 6:49:31 GMT -5
Which brings up another unanswered question: somehow, somewhere, The Spectre became a publicly-known crime-fighter (maybe via his association with the JSA). But how much does the public know about him? Strange powers, ability to operate while invisible, that they certainly seem to know, but do they know he's a ghost (or that he's supposed to be a ghost--I guess accepting that as a fact would be even more socially impactful than acknowledgment of super powers), or do they think he's just a supernaturally-powered person in a costume, like Dr. Fate? I guess I always assumed that the public only had vague information about the "mystery men". Some witness accounts and news reports, but obviously the JSA would not put out bios specifying the nature of everyone's powers (maybe they kicked out Hour-Man as a liability for giving away his gimmick--and vulnerability--in his name?). But I suppose as long as there were rumors of a ghostly origin, a woman with a peculiar affinity for the occult could have taken an interest in him (and he flaunted his impressive physique more openly than any of his more modestly-attired peers, so if a woman likes the fair-skinned fellows...).
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Post by chadwilliam on Aug 2, 2020 9:31:02 GMT -5
Which brings up another unanswered question: somehow, somewhere, The Spectre became a publicly-known crime-fighter (maybe via his association with the JSA). But how much does the public know about him? Strange powers, ability to operate while invisible, that they certainly seem to know, but do they know he's a ghost (or that he's supposed to be a ghost--I guess accepting that as a fact would be even more socially impactful than acknowledgment of super powers), or do they think he's just a supernaturally-powered person in a costume, like Dr. Fate? I guess I always assumed that the public only had vague information about the "mystery men". Some witness accounts and news reports, but obviously the JSA would not put out bios specifying the nature of everyone's powers (maybe they kicked out Hour-Man as a liability for giving away his gimmick--and vulnerability--in his name?). But I suppose as long as there were rumors of a ghostly origin, a woman with a peculiar affinity for the occult could have taken an interest in him (and he flaunted his impressive physique more openly than any of his more modestly-attired peers, so if a woman likes the fair-skinned fellows...). I think it would have been great had the public figured out he was a ghost and tried to guess just whose ghost he was. Perhaps even have Corrigan's fellow officers side eyeing him whenever his close brush with death seemed a little too close. Wondering if your fellow reporter might actually be the biggest news story in the world is interesting enough, but wondering if the guy standing next to you really needs to breathe or only pretends to is a whole other matter.
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Post by chadwilliam on Aug 2, 2020 9:35:12 GMT -5
More Fun Comics #95 (Jan-Feb 1944) "The Book Bandits"
Synopsis: A truck carrying a load of seemingly unimportant books donated to the U.S.O. disappears outside of a diner Percival Popp happens to be frequenting. Struck by the random and apparent meaninglessness of the crime, Popp can't help but take an interest in the matter, especially when he's accosted by some of Goggles Gus' men worried that he may have figured out how the trick was pulled. Thankfully for Popp, The Spectre shows up (not literally since he's still invisible, but he is there) and races to his defence care of a few pies to the thugs faces and that sort of thing. I guess these stories are becoming about as predictable to The Spectre as they are to us since our hero knows enough not to ask how the disappearing truck trick was accomplished or why Goggles Gus is even after what appears to be worthless books - I mean, The Spectre is obviously curious about the matter, but whereas in the past we would have gotten a 'why is your boss stealing books? How did he pull that stunt with the truck?' here The Spectre simply skips the interrogation as if he knows that would ruin the mystery too early in the tale. Anyhoo... We, at least, learn how the truck disappeared when the tale cuts to Gus himself. "There's more than one hundred thousand dollars for us, boys, if I find what I'm looking for! That was worth spending five grand outfitting that elevator near the diner!" Ok, so secret elevator - that explains the vanishing truck, but what's this about "All I have to do is find one book!"? Well, that we don't know yet. Having returned to Charley's Diner, The Spectre and Popp hide atop the next U.S.O. truck filled with books pulling up to the restaurant. The elevator starts up, the truck and its occupants are lowered, and Gus' men are dumbfounded when they find themselves being attacked by the contents of the vehicle being flung at them as if guided by an invisible hand. Shrugging off the perplexing incident, the goons head back to their boss who lets them in on his little secret. It seems that a Shakespearian scholar known to Gus once found a letter from the bard to Lord Bacon describing his latest play Romeo and Juliet. Unfortunately, this scholar's other interests weren't quite so harmless and as such, had the law breathing down his neck. However, possessing enough foresight to return the letter to the book in which it was discovered with the intention of retrieving it later, but not enough clairvoyance to know that the books would wind up in the possession of the U.S.O., this is where Gus comes in. Learning of the letter and recognizing its importance and with it, value, Gus has been carrying out his audacious robberies in the hopes of finding that one books with that particular letter, but guess who followed his men back to his hideout? So The Spectre and Popp arrive upon the scene and Gus correctly guesses that "The Spectre is doin' tricks! Popp wouldn't come here without him!" The Spectre indeed may be doin' tricks (actually, just his usual invisible fisticuffs) but it is Popp who clumsily knocks over an oil lamp setting the hideout ablaze. Though he handles Gus easily, The Spectre is unable to stop the blaze and comments ruefully upon the fact that "there's a lot of money in there burning right down to ashes" as the building burns. A few days later, The Spectre catches Popp leafing through stacks of books in the hopes that Shakespeare may have written a second letter... Thoughts: It does seem after all, that it is known in some circles that where Percival Popp goes, so goes The Spectre. Goggles Gus arrives at that deduction almost immediately upon Popp's bumbling into his hideout and is presented as a foregone conclusion rather than a result of some evidence being presented to him in that moment. His men however, are completely baffled when Popp seemingly gives them the food thrashing of their lives at the diner at the start of the story and similarly confounded when later in the comic are attacked by a pile of books. How Popp's pairing with The Spectre is open knowledge to some and a secret to others is difficult to understand. Fox doesn't do much of anything with the Shakespeare letter hidden in a book to elevate it beyond a good concept and into the driving force of this story. There are no suspense ridden brushes with discovering the letter, no close calls with it being located and then snatched away by one party or the other, no sense of desperation in locating the prized parchment - The Spectre's attitude upon learning of the existence of the letter is "It's priceless! It proves Shakespeare did write his own stuff!" and upon seemingly watching it burn is a rather ho-hum acknowledgement that "There's a lot of money in there burning right down to ashes!" as he stands casually by from a distance. In between those two disparate and hard to reconcile exclamations? Just your usual invisible socks to the jaws and little else. Fox was also the author who gave us the classic Bat-Man vs. Doctor Death tale in which Batman utters his immortal "Death to Doctor Death" line as he watches his villain's hideout burn to a cinder. This is a far cry from that and it's hard to believe that the same author who scripted that fast-paced classic would go on to limply drag The Spectre through this one. And how do we even know that the letter went up in that fire since it was never actually discovered on that second truck. While the story notes that that second truck is the last batch, we don't know for certain that it wasn't mislaid elsewhere. It's just another one of those "since the story would be less interesting if it weren't on that truck, then we can assume it was on the truck" moments akin to the previously mentioned "since the story would be less interesting if The Spectre could learn from those hoods what their boss is up to, we can assume that there's no point in having him question them" scene. Fox has a real "Look, do you want to wrap this story up as quickly as possible so we can all go home or do you want to keep reading this when you could be doing so many other better things with your time?" attitude when it comes to these pieces that doesn't really endear me to him. There was a moment of pathos early on in this yarn which suggested a deeper direction for Fox's script. After being roughed up by a U.S.O, officer who mistakenly thinks that Popp must have stolen the missing truck at the diner, the super-cop remarks that what hurt him the most was that someone thought he would steal from his own country during wartime. Though the suggestion that Popp would be driven to restore his name and his dignity is made, it's quickly forgotten and the detective is back to delivering pratfalls for the story's duration. So, another disappointing entry and even though only half a dozen remain for this title, I can't help but marvel that the number is that high given the fact that Fox is clearly running on fumes. Well, he's surprised me before so perhaps he'll somehow do it again...
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Post by MWGallaher on Aug 2, 2020 22:12:17 GMT -5
The little things continue to trigger questions about the nature of The Spectre, questions obviously beyond the scope of any thought that Gardner Fox ever gave to the character. This time around, I find myself wondering about Spec's observation that this letter would prove that "Shakespeare did write his own stuff!" Just how familiar is he with the questions pondered by literary scholars? Maybe this was something that Corrigan was familiar with (although it doesn't seem what I'd expect from Jim), but if The Spectre is still shaped by Corrigan's consciousness, it calls into question just how meaningful their current corporeal division really is. This kind of thing is not a problem when a character has a conventional past as a part of human society, but it does raise questions if he's a purely supernatural being who's only existed on Earth a few years.
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Post by chadwilliam on Aug 6, 2020 21:54:49 GMT -5
The little things continue to trigger questions about the nature of The Spectre, questions obviously beyond the scope of any thought that Gardner Fox ever gave to the character. This time around, I find myself wondering about Spec's observation that this letter would prove that "Shakespeare did write his own stuff!" Just how familiar is he with the questions pondered by literary scholars? Maybe this was something that Corrigan was familiar with (although it doesn't seem what I'd expect from Jim), but if The Spectre is still shaped by Corrigan's consciousness, it calls into question just how meaningful their current corporeal division really is. This kind of thing is not a problem when a character has a conventional past as a part of human society, but it does raise questions if he's a purely supernatural being who's only existed on Earth a few years. Got an error message and my response was deleted when I hit 'Respond'. Gah! Sorry if this comes out a little jumbled - I've mentioned before how Corrigan was introduced to us as little more than a thug with a badge at the start of this series and actually softened when bonded with The Spectre. Now that the two have gone their separate ways, The Spectre has become downright goofy. Considering how regularly Corrigan used to bemoan his fate of being shackled to The Spectre for eternity, he sure got out of that deal pretty easily. Corrigan's actions remind me of a big brother trying to get rid of his pesky little brother so he can go be an adult on his own and given how silly The Spectre's become, one can understand why. "Hey, Spec! Come here, boy! Come here! See that big looking tough guy with the glasses and wiry hair? That guy's a SUPER-cop! Me, I'm just a regular ol' ordinary cop! Wouldn't you rather be with him? Sure you would! Go get him, boy! Go get him! ...you mangy idiot." I mean, we assumed that The Spectre was the tough guy of the pair, but who knows what was going on in their head when they shared a body? Spectre: Jim! Hey Jim! Jim! Corrigan: What?! What is it now?! Spectre: When we bust into that hideout, and they go 'The Spectre!' why don't we say 'You can call me anything you like, just don't call me late for breakfast' and then throw a pie at them? Corrigan: ... Spectre: We gonna do that, Jim? Huh? Are we? Are we? What about it, Jim? Are we? Corrigan: Will you shut the Hell up for a change?!?!
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Post by chadwilliam on Aug 8, 2020 21:33:30 GMT -5
More Fun Comics #96 (March-April 1944) Synopsis: Credited for taking down a pair of hoods single-handedly, Percival Popp's ego (hardly modest to begin with) begins to swell. It doesn't matter that his success came at the hands of the invisible Spectre - a fact which Popp himself is oblivious to given his penchant for swinging his arms wildly with his eyes tightly closed - the diminutive detective decides that it's time that the public know of the stalwart defender within their midst. To that end, Popp hires a publicity agent to bolster his reputation which is already starting to expand due to the captured crooks inability to explain how else they could have been brought down, but by the fists of this nebbish. So publicity photos are taken, stories are printed, and The Spectre takes note. "The Poor fish! Doesn't he realise what he's letting himself in for? If certain tough boys I know ever get a glimpse of these articles, there'll be trouble!" Sure enough, mobster Boots Young decides to rub Popp out before he becomes too much of a problem for him and his gang. That very evening, an attempt is made on Popp's life but the goofball is saved when The Spectre knocks him away from the bullets directed at him from a speeding car. When the attempted killers are swept into the air by Spectre, Popp is just intelligent enough to realise that his ghostly pal is nearby but too bigheaded to connect the dots between his recent success in nabbing those crooks and the invisible superhero. "I guess he's jealous of my fame! He wants to show me he's not a has-been, that's all!" Popp seems to receive a further break when his publicity agent receives a tip-off regarding a pending bank robbery, though from a distance, The Spectre wonders why an anonymous caller would inform Popp's agent and not the police. Sure enough, the caller is none other than Boots Young who managed to sneak off while The Spectre was busy apprehending the other crooks in his car when Popp narrowly avoided being gunned down. So, while Popp and his photographer head off to The Industry Bank, The Spectre patrols the city looking for some other possible target for Young. He finds it when he sees Young and his men sneak into The Cheese Factory in an attempt to abscond with their payroll. Deciding to teach Popp a lesson, Spec heads back to the bank, flies Popp to The Cheese Factory, and gives the lawman a chance to catch the crooks. Unfortunately, Popp trips over a giant-sized piece of cheese which wedges itself onto his head and The Spectre rounds up the gang. If Popp has any delusions about serving as the city's number one lawman, they quickly vanish when the journalist Spectre has invited over to the factory, takes a picture of Popp with that giant block of limburger cheese affixed to his head. "Crime-Buster Hides as Spectre Rounds Up Gang!" reads the next day's headline as Popp fumes. Thoughts: For once, The Spectre lets Popp take credit for The Spectre's heroics, but when Popp takes things too far he really gets no sympathy from his pal. The Spectre makes it clear to the photographers that in return for their hot scoop exposing Popp as a fraud, the goofball's picture has to appear on the front page encased in a block of limburger cheese. "I wouldn't want you to miss this for the world, fellas", The Spec gleefully announces to the press further adding "Remember your promise -- front page publicity for this stuff!" Not that I have much sympathy for Popp either, but I wish one of those photographers would have asked the ghost "Is this really how you spend your time these days?" I mean, from vanquishing all vestiges of crime until they're gone from the Earth to serving as this bozo's Guardian Angel every month? What kind of demotion is that? And for who might be interested, some of The Spectre's gags from this tale" "I always heard rats like cheese so help yourself!" (said as The Spectre tosses a block of cheese at a crook). "Now maybe you know what 'Cheese it, the cops' means!" (said as The Spectre drops a thug into a vat of cheese). "Ever comb your hair with a "Swiss harp' before?" (said as The Spectre knocks somebody in the backside - I'm proud to admit that I don't get this joke at all). ugh. And from where did The Spectre get that log with which he knocked Popp out of the way of those goon's machine gun bullets when they attempted their drive-by? He's just floating in mid-air one moment and in the next he's chucking a log at him. Does he just carry this thing around with him the way Captain America has his shield or Thor his hammer? That's it - just an ordinary log? Weird. And what's with The Spectre's face in the last panel of this page? You know what? I kind of like it actually, that's how a ghost should look - ancient, wise, and tired. And yes, Popp should have grokked how he took down those villains at the start of the tale since The Spectre's been saving his hide invisibly for a while now, but continuity isn't a thing when it comes to Fox so it seems like a pointless comment. In short, this yarn gets a big 'Screw you, Spectre' from me.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 8, 2020 21:47:36 GMT -5
I give this review three swiss harps.
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Post by chadwilliam on Aug 8, 2020 22:47:12 GMT -5
I give this review three swiss harps. I'm even more confused now.
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Post by MWGallaher on Aug 10, 2020 10:34:52 GMT -5
A "Swiss Harp", as seen in the linked stock photo, is a traditional Alpine cheese-making tool, and looks just like the same implement The Spectre is wielding. Spec's coasting to retirement taking on gangs with the most modest of criminal ambitions...I mean, robbing the cheese factory, for crying out loud?! Good catch on the log--the caption box ("Whissshh!" Down hurtles the log!") draws unnecessary attention and implies that the reader is already aware that The Spectre is totin' timber. Like you said, just weird. I guess some shortcuts are necessary at the abbreviated 7 1/2 page count we're at now. That last page sure makes it seem like The Spectre can turn on his visibility when he wants to, chatting away with reporters who've been led to witness Popp's humiliation. The artist continues to do nothing to suggest that they are conversing with an unseen spirit.
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Post by chadwilliam on Aug 13, 2020 21:15:18 GMT -5
Thanks for filling me in on what the swiss harp is - still don't understand the joke, but hey, there are a lot of things about this Spectre which I don't understand. Along the same lines as 'how much about Shakespeare and Francis Bacon should The Spectre really know' I guess this is just one of those things Corrigan quickly scribbled down for The Spectre as he headed out the door for the last time. "Good is good, bad is bad, look after Popp, Shakespeare may or may not have written his own plays, try to keep jokes to a minimum, a swiss harp is a cheese making tool, there's salad in the fridge, take care".
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Post by chadwilliam on Aug 14, 2020 21:31:37 GMT -5
All-Star Comics #19 (Winter 1943) Synopsis: Having individually received bare boned notes upon which have been printed a single musical note, The JSA begins to worry when they trace these sheets back to Hawkman. Observing that their fellow teammate must be in some sort of trouble, they repair to a ramshackle house after being summoned by one of his pet hawks to that location. Finding a piano in these rather sad dwellings, Wonder Woman strikes the seven keys corresponding with each note left to Starman, Spectre, Johnny Thunder, Doctor Fate, The Atom, Sandman, and Dr. Mid-Nite. When each key is struck, a letter containing an address and a rhyme slides free from a concealed panel within the instrument. Each member pursues their unusual clew and The Spectre is no exception heading, as he does, for Kensington Manor. "The Bell Shall Knell its Evil Spell, Till Ghost Appear the Curse to Quell" A bit of back story is provided before The Spectre enters the scene. During the Manchu Dynasty (which a quick online search assures me ran from 1644-1911/12 but for the sake of this story, I think it's safe to assume that these events transpired closer to the start of this era than to its end) a poor bell-caster was murdered by a jealous rival who sought the heart of a Princess who had fallen for the lowly workman. His death is a horrible one - tossed into the molten metal intended to make the bell which would serve as the centerpiece for a great tower - and with his final words, the poor unfortunate soul imparts a curse upon the bell so that it "shall bring bloody death to countless thousands and to all who play it, until a ghost shall arise to slay the evil that it brings!" Sure enough, the curse succeeds with an earthquake in China killing half a million people. Years later, the bell was broken down and recast as a set of carillons (a set of smaller bells) and by the time of our story, has brought nothing but riches and plaudits to Armand Baulaire, the musician who possesses them now. An anonymous letter however, informs Baulaire of the bells sordid history, and the musician finds himself wondering whether he should tempt the curse or give up his hitherto successful career. Meanwhile, The Spectre has determined from the rhyming clew that he should pay a visit to Baulaire given that his carillons "must be the bells the saying on this paper refers to". Finding that the musician isn't at home when he pays his call, The Spectre helps himself to Baulaire's diary where the worried entertainer expresses his concerns about the curse placed upon his bells. Arriving home minutes later (and after his guest's departure) Baulaire is attacked by hoods dressed like the very Manchu Dynasty thugs who attacked bell and curse-caster Ching Tso whose death set these woes in motion. Flying back to the scene, The Spectre spies this odd tableau and rescues Baulaire, thus fulfilling the "a ghost shall arise to slay..." portion of Tso's prophecy. With Baulaire's mind put to rest along with an assurance from The Spectre that there are no such things as curses, all's well that ends well for the musician whose performance that evening, the tale assures us, was "inspired". The comic itself ends with The Spectre helping to free Hawkman after getting the address of his kidnapper from Baulaire's attackers. We learn that the mastermind behind his disappearance and the attacks on the various musicians within each respective tale is due to jealousy over their success and resentment over his own failure within the same field. Thoughts: Quite a backstory here - Ching Tso being tossed alive into molten metal so that he can actually become part of the bell he would have been casting had he not glanced at a woman who loved him is a pretty chilling set-up for what would surely have made a classic Spectre tale had it been told at an earlier date. Of course, when your story runs only five pages in length you've pretty much run out of room for anything else once your first two pages are up. The Spectre does grow to enormous height and pick up Baulaire's pursuers as if they were fleas - always an impressive feat to witness though it isn't anything we haven't seen before - but what else is there to say? Fox doesn't complicate things by giving The Spectre an unneeded weakness, Baulaire's superstitious quandary is easily resolved, and even the wrap up with the big bad villain is easily achieved. So nothing really memorable, but nothing which disrespects the character which has to count for something at this late date. Speaking of which... Though I'm not really a fan of revisions, retroactive continuity, and reading between the lines for the most part, I can't help but come to the conclusion that this Spectre simply isn't the same Spectre goofing around in More Fun. A while back, I wondered just what happens when Corrigan heads off in one direction while The Spectre goes in another - could Corrigan transform into The Spectre while his other half is on an errand and if so, does the Spectre on the other side of town have to rush to his aid or does Corrigan just turn into another Spectre? I mean, he seemed to retain his Spectre powers while the two were apart with no seeming distress being endured by his supernatural half - could he just keep changing into Spectres for as long as he likes. He did turn into three separate Jim Corrigan's way back during his first adventure after all. Anyhow, where I'm going with this is could Corrigan have left another Spectre unaccounted for at some point in the past? Say, at a JSA meeting? Could account for why All-Star Spec is still visible and has retained some of his dignity in comparison with his More Fun counterpart (whose "I can't show my face anymore" stipulation seems suspiciously more like a response to being paired up with Percival Popp every month than it does a result of being separated from Corrigan if you ask me).
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Post by MWGallaher on Aug 15, 2020 5:40:21 GMT -5
It's a reasonable hypothesis. Fox's one concession to the continuity of the solo feature in More Fun Comics appears to be the absence of Jim Corrigan from the JSA Spectre's current "life", although of course the abbreviated page count could be the practical explanation. And assuming there's some equivalent to conservation of energy in the spiritual world, a multiplicity of incarnations could explain the apparent power reductions and limitations. If the JSA Spectre is using up all the ghost juice for visible manifestation, the More Fun Spectre remains invisible. But the public knows about and sees visual evidence from his JSA participation, but perceives that he's operating invisibly over in...is it still Gotham right now?
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Post by chadwilliam on Aug 16, 2020 19:05:48 GMT -5
..is it still Gotham right now? I don't believe his city has been named in recent issues, but the last name it was given was Gotham. So to answer your question, I have no idea.
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