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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 9:07:25 GMT -5
Thanks to the ever-dependent Mike's Amazing World of Comics, I have checked something - and today marks thirty years since John Byrne's Namor the Sub-Mariner #1 hit the shelves: I'm a fan of Byrne's work on the character, particularly making Namor a CEO out to protect the oceans. I feel Byrne gave the character a renaissance, and I enjoyed his work on this. I was also pleased that Namor's name was highlighted on the cover of each comic. It feels sad that, last year, there seemed to be little Namor activity despite it being his 80th anniversary. Now, I didn't expect him to receive the same attention as Superman and Batman received, but as I type this, is there even talk of a Namor solo book? I do feel there is still so much they can do with the character. I'll have to check if Byrne's Namor run has been collected. I did own the comics as a kid, but as life progresses, we all lose things, eh? I did re-read a couple of the issues about 5-6 years ago - and they were still very enjoyable. Anyone else like Byrne's Namor run?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 9:23:12 GMT -5
I loved Byrne's Namor. And yes the first 18 issues have been collected in 2 trades. I was hoping for another volume to complete his run as writer and artist. IMO it was one of the best Namor series in the modern era. There is an omnibus that collects the first 40 issues but it is way too expensive for me plus I didn't like the look of Jae Lee art when he took over.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 6, 2020 9:37:21 GMT -5
Sorry to break it to you but Namor is a bad guy again. He killed in the Avengers book and has teamed up with bad guys.
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Post by badwolf on Feb 6, 2020 10:23:31 GMT -5
I really liked this run and I think I have all the Byrne-drawn issues. The only thing I don't like about the art is he was using those "fill-in dots" for shading and it looked terrible.
I'd like to get the omnibus. I hated that period of Jae Lee's art too but I'd give it a chance for the stories.
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 6, 2020 13:47:23 GMT -5
I've only read a reprint of #1 that was in a 'best of' type book and some other Namor bits that were connected to it, and I have #12 with The Invaders. Also the reprint of FF Annual #1 where Byrne added some new pages centered on Namor. It's something on my list to read more of in the future.
For an anniversary I'd most like to see a set of the '50s Bill Everett Atlas stories, preferably facsimiles. I think Namora #1 from 1948 where he did most of the work might be appreciated too. There have been various reprints of the very earliest Sub-Mariners, but they are fairly crude and quality repro seems to be a major issue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 13:51:49 GMT -5
There isn't a lot of Namor stuff reprinted outside of the early 40s and the 60s material. I too would like to see the 1950s series. And even though he isn't as big as Superman and Batman I really wish Marvel had put together a nice 80th anniversary special for Namor.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 13:57:09 GMT -5
There was a 1950s series?!
That's what I like about being here, I learn something new every day.
It was a shame only one "Essential" volume was published.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 14:01:48 GMT -5
There should have been a Namor film a long time ago. Jeffrey Hunter could have played him in the 60s. George Clooney could have played him in the 90s. Benjamin Bratt could have played him 15 years ago. Dwayne Johnson should play him NOW!
(Feel free to insult me, my brother tells me I'm the worst "casting director" in history, after I said that Tom Selleck should have played Iron Man, circa 1980s. And when I told him an early 80s Spider-Man film should have had Bill Paxton as Spidey with Geena Davis as Mary Jane, I think he told me to leave the room...)
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 6, 2020 14:21:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure who would make a convincing Prince Namor in a movie. Somehow I think Yul Bryner though. well, when he had hair...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 15:04:15 GMT -5
Am I right in thinking there hasn't been an ongoing Namor series since this one?
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 6, 2020 15:15:31 GMT -5
There was a 1950s series?! That's what I like about being here, I learn something new every day. It was a shame only one "Essential" volume was published. Timely/Atlas briefly revived Cap, Namor and the Human Torch, Cap was in Young Men, appeared in Young Men, was published in the title Young Men #24-28, Men's Adventure #27-28, and Captain America #76-78. Namor appeared in the comic Young Men #24 and Sub-Mariner #33-42. Human Torch appeared in the comics Young Men 24-28, Human Torch 36-39 and Men's Adventure #28. Cap fought a Commie Red Skull, which is quite a switch, for a Fascist bully-boy, even a darling one (just watched a Young Ones retrospective).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 15:17:20 GMT -5
There was a 1950s series?! That's what I like about being here, I learn something new every day. It was a shame only one "Essential" volume was published. Yes. In 1954 Marvel/Atlas revived their big 3. Cap and Torch only lasted 3 issues but Namor lasted 9. Partly because there was talk of a Namor TV series at that time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 15:24:03 GMT -5
Here's the thread about the TV show: link
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 15:26:33 GMT -5
Am I right in thinking there hasn't been an ongoing Namor series since this one? I think so. There have been several runs lasting between 6-12 issues.
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Post by badwolf on Feb 6, 2020 16:11:27 GMT -5
Am I right in thinking there hasn't been an ongoing Namor series since this one? There was a 12-issue series in 2003 aimed at younger readers (and chronicling Namor's life a child/adolescent). I don't know if it was meant to be an ongoing series or not.
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