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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 16:19:13 GMT -5
Namor the First Mutant from 2010 was meant to be an ongoing series but it was cancelled after 11 issues and an annual.  -M |
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Post by Farrar on Feb 7, 2020 0:18:35 GMT -5
There should have been a Namor film a long time ago. Jeffrey Hunter could have played him in the 60s. George Clooney could have played him in the 90s. Benjamin Bratt could have played him 15 years ago. Dwayne Johnson should play him NOW!... Well for the 1960s, the resemblance between Nimoy/Spock and Namor/Subby was often commented on. Hmmm, you think Sal was a fan of Star Trek?    IMO another actor suitable for Namor back in the day would have been Rick Jason (best known for the "Combat!" TV series), in his prime. He had the intensity, the striking, angular facial bone structure, the dramatic brows...plus he was 6'4"  |
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Post by EdoBosnar on Feb 7, 2020 4:41:41 GMT -5
(Feel free to insult me, my brother tells me I'm the worst "casting director" in history, after I said that Tom Selleck should have played Iron Man, circa 1980s. And when I told him an early 80s Spider-Man film should have had Bill Paxton as Spidey with Geena Davis as Mary Jane, I think he told me to leave the room...) O.k., I'm not seeing the Paxton and Davis casting, but Tom Selleck as Stark/IM is pretty much the obvious choice if we're talking about hypothetical live-action superhero features made in the 1980s: In fact, I know that thought occurred to me even back in the 1980s, when I was reading and loving Michelinie and Layton's Iron Man, and Magnum PI was one of my favorite TV shows (T.C. was even Magnum's own version of Rhodey).
By the same token, the ideal casting choice for Wolverine would have been Fred Ward. Even now, as a much older man, he still looks more like Logan to me than Hugh Jackman ever will... ...plus, unlike Jackman, he's also shorter than average, which would match Wolverine's depictions in the comics, at least initially, as being about a whole head shorter than, say, Cyclops, Banshee, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 5:49:08 GMT -5
I'm pleased to read your post. Just as long as we agree a 1970s movie should have had Burt Reynolds as Tony Stark.
I am your go-to-guy for fan casting. I mean, we all want to see Matthew McConaughey play He-Man, right?
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Post by brutalis on Feb 7, 2020 7:16:42 GMT -5
I'm pleased to read your post. Just as long as we agree a 1970s movie should have had Burt Reynolds as Tony Stark. I am your go-to-guy for fan casting. I mean, we all want to see Matthew McConaughey play He-Man, right? C'mon, you know McConaughey makes a better Skeletor than Prince Adam. |
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Post by Farrar on Feb 8, 2020 11:43:47 GMT -5
For those who are interested, the '50s Sub-Mariner series is collected in Marvel Masterworks Presents Atlas Era Heroes Vol. 3. I already have several issues of that Subby run but even so I've been meaning to pick up that particular Masterworks volume, as there are always interesting and informative add-ons (intro by Roy Thomas for example).
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And the two '50s Men's Adventure Subby tales are in MMPAEH Vol. 2
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 10, 2020 23:24:20 GMT -5
Am I right in thinking there hasn't been an ongoing Namor series since this one? There was a 12-issue series in 2003 aimed at younger readers (and chronicling Namor's life a child/adolescent). I don't know if it was meant to be an ongoing series or not. That was the one under the 'tsunami' imprint... it was meant to be Manga style, but it wasn't really. It was Namor's teen age years, but it just wasn't right. |
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Post by badwolf on Feb 11, 2020 11:57:42 GMT -5
There was a 12-issue series in 2003 aimed at younger readers (and chronicling Namor's life a child/adolescent). I don't know if it was meant to be an ongoing series or not. That was the one under the 'tsunami' imprint... it was meant to be Manga style, but it wasn't really. It was Namor's teen age years, but it just wasn't right. Yeah, I didn't get that whole manga thing. Sentinel was in that style, I guess, but no others that I remember.
Namor had nice art but the story didn't hold my attention more than a few issues; but I wasn't really the target audience.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 11, 2020 13:27:02 GMT -5
NEither did Marvel.. that was the problem. They though Manga = giant robots and Spiky hair. The art was definitely pretty.. probably would have worked better as it's own thing instead of Namor.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 15:33:03 GMT -5
My daughter bought the Torch series and the Namor series.   |
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Post by badwolf on Feb 11, 2020 17:42:38 GMT -5
Man, Skottie Young's art was hard to look at back then. He seems to have evolved and found his niche now with things like the Oz books though which is nice.
The only Tsunami title I stuck with was Runaways. Except for Alex's and Nico's hairstyles, it wasn't very manga-like either.
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Post by sabongero on Jul 24, 2020 21:14:31 GMT -5
I'll give it a try. Count me in. I liked the Aquaman new52 series with Geoff Johns. Perhaps this extended run by Byrne would do the same.
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Post by rberman on Jul 30, 2020 13:05:20 GMT -5
I got the Byrne/Jae Lee omnibus a few months ago and finally worked through it. It's at least interesting from a historical perspective, sort of a study over time in the Bronze Age turning into the 90s Image style. The initial premise is that Namor uses the riches of the seas to become an environmentally motivated tycoon who tangles with evil corporations like Roxxon. But that premise doesn't leave a lot of room for traditional superheroics, so Byrne leavens it with a dollop of late 1950s monster stories so Namor has someone to punch. Bob Wiacek inks the first three issues, which look a lot like early 80s Byrne.  Then Byrne starts inking himself and using the aforementioned duo-tone paper to cut corners on embellishments. Sometimes it looks great; sometimes it looks muddy.  Byrne indulges his love of Marvel's Golden Age with an extended "Invaders vs Nazis" story line that sees Spitfire turned from an octagenarian back to a twentysomething heroine, thanks to a blood transfusion from the original Human Torch. She remains a prominent supporting character throughout the rest of Byrne's run.  Then Byrne tackles another of his loves, the Savage Land, which brings not only Ka-Zar and Shanna into the mix but also Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, and the Super-Skrull. Dinosaurs! Yay!  After that came an Atlantis-themed series which retconned Namorita to be a clone of her supposed mother. Then it's off to K'un L'un for an Iron Fist-heavy story that involves some very 1970s-feeling second person narration.  Up to this point, it still feels like a 1980s comic book, with Namor often playing second fiddle to a host of more interesting guest stars. But over the next few issues, Byrne dropped out by bits as Jae Lee took over art and Bob Harras took over story, turning Namor back into an amnesiac for a while, and then removing him from the surface world altogether for an extended Atlantean revolution story.  The first half of this run was engaging enough. The second half seems more like samples for an exhibition on how comic books lost their fun in the early 90s. |
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