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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 24, 2020 13:45:29 GMT -5
Before Brian Bendis came along and made " real sounding" dialogue the fashion, there were moments when certain scenes had a real life feel to it. I'm going to comb through my collection and try to show some of these moments. First up- in the first Secret Wars ( #5) by Jim Shooter and Mike Zeck there was a scene where Colossus was injured and there was a native of the planet where they were trapped that was a healer.   Iron Man was James Rhodes in this Mini. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 24, 2020 14:20:39 GMT -5
Thor # 126. Hercules beats Thor but only after Odin strips him of half his power. The final scene is one of remorse from both Jane Foster who flirted with Hercules to get Thor jealous and a Remorseful Odin. Good stuff.  |
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Post by chadwilliam on Mar 24, 2020 14:34:22 GMT -5
Contained within a Batman comic (issue 162) whose cover boasts of an adventure in which the dark knight becomes a King Kong-esque creature atop whatever Gotham's equivalent to The Empire State Building happens to be (The Gotham State building?) there's a back-up tale in which Dick Grayson disguises himself as a red-headed kid, gets amnesia, and loses not only all memory of having ever been Robin, but all knowledge of who Batman and Robin are. When he saves a young boy from a fire, Batman arrives upon the scene and congratulates Dick (unrecognizable to Batman due to his disguise). Telling the hero kid that Robin couldn't have done better himself, Dick asks who Robin is and who he is. Puzzled at not being recognized, Batman responds "You haven't heard of Batman and Robin?" Dick says 'No', shrugs his shoulders, and walks away.
Batman's response?
"He must be kidding me!"
I like how up until that moment you get the standard "Look at that crazy kid... climbing the drain pipe!" dialogue where passerbys provide the needless dialogue describing events the artist has already depicted and Batman's full of praise. But one "Who's Batman?" and all of a sudden the masked manhunter's ego is bruised and he's clearly offended.
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Post by brutalis on Mar 24, 2020 17:16:59 GMT -5
Before Brian Bendis came along and made " real sounding" dialogue the fashion, there were moments when certain scenes had a real life feel to it. I'm going to comb through my collection and try to show some of these moments. First up- in the first Secret Wars ( #5) by Jim Shooter and Mike Zeck there was a scene where Colossus was injured and there was a native of the planet where they were trapped that was a healer. Iron Man was James Rhodes in this Mini. Yet sadly Shooter makes Rhodey come across as poorly as he thinks Johnny is by having Rhodey refer to the healer as a "broad" in the same sentence. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 24, 2020 22:14:58 GMT -5
Fantastic Four #200 Reed Vs. Doom. Yes the confrontation between the two is the way it was always meant to be. A personal hatred for Reed without the other 3.  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 25, 2020 5:03:38 GMT -5
Flash # 1 ( 1987) Wally West decides that he has to get something out of delivering a heart cross country from a hospital. It turns out that everyone is making money from the transplant and he asks for medical coverage as compensation.  |
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Post by brutalis on Mar 25, 2020 7:32:48 GMT -5
I was so stoked when Reed and Doom had their one-on-one B-Ball game. And it only took 200 issues to get there?
Health Insurance for Wally West the Flash. Would any insurance company even think about covering him? Talk about a big loss risk and what kind of delivery guarantee does Wally provide? What happens when his delivery runs are interrupted with villainous intent? He would make a better Domino's pizza delivery person: it "should" always be there in 30 minutes or less if Wally can avoid eating it on the delivery run...
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 25, 2020 12:40:43 GMT -5
 Batman remembering Thomas Wayne and thanking Green Lantern for reminding him of a happy moment. Brennert had a lot of that, as he wrote superheroes with real emotions. This one sums up both Supergirl and Superman, and the essence of true heroism...   Listen to an interview with anyone who ever made a selfless, heroic act and you will hear those sentiments echoed. |
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Post by rberman on Mar 25, 2020 13:53:53 GMT -5
Chris Claremont wrote lots of great character moments in early 80s X-Men and New Mutants that rang true for me. I've posted them before in other contexts here, so forgive me for posting them again, but they seem apropos. First, the moment when Peter breaks up with Kitty, and the discrepancy between her thoughts and her words is dead-on.   Or the time that telepathic powers made it impossible for Ororo to prove she was trapped in Emma Frost's body.  Kurt and Logan having an adult conversation second-guessing Xavier's decision to bar Kitty from adventuring with the X-Men.  Kitty's jealousy that "her" uniform isn't as special as she used to think it was.  Maddie Pryor discreetly freaking out at Logan's rehearsal dinner upon discovering she's babysitting a dragon.  Ororo's jealousy when Kitty pays more attention to Peter.  The time a closeted mutant told anti-mutie jokes to the New Mutants in hopes of fitting in.  The immature responses of the New Mutants when said boy later commits suicide.  Or their varied responses to seeing Roberto's parents arguing.  Or when being served snacks by Lilandra.  Sam finds his time at boarding school has made his hometown too small, and alienated him from his siblings who stayed home.   The kids watching cowboy movies, thoughtless to the racial stereotype's offense to their friend Dani.   Sam stumbles in on Dani dressing, and instinctively covers his face, but then he can't resist taking a surreptitious peek.  Rahne gets a glamour makeover, then is enraged when Sam can't recognize her.  Illyana assumes Rahne's scowl means she's thinking bad thoughts about Illyana, when Rahne is really thinking bad thoughts about herself.  The arrival of the glamorous Amara upsets the sexual politics of the teens, as the two guys fall all over themselves to get her attention.   This one is actually by Zeb Wells, not Claremont, but I enjoyed this ribbing between Sam and Roberto.  |
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Post by chadwilliam on Mar 25, 2020 14:29:51 GMT -5
Action Comics #399 - Superman is pulled into the 24th century by a future historian along with Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, and General Custer. The reason? So that these legendary figures can be studied in the final moments before their deaths. When it is explained to Superman that he is fated to die saving Earth from a catastrophic explosion (the mission he was on before being plucked from the time stream) he is directed to the machine which will return him, Lincoln, and the others to their final moments of life. Superman's answer? "No! Why should I go home to die? I'm staying here!"
Although Superman does relent and one could argue that he would never refuse to sacrifice himself to save anyone, thus making his behaviour out of character, the story really plays up the fact that to this historian, Superman is nothing but a specimen to be poked and prodded. His defiance therefore, doesn't come across so much as Superman wanting to save his own skin, but to inject some humanity into was has until now, been a detached, clinical foray into history. The Curt Swan/Murphy Anderson art really sells the moment too - Superman standing with his arms crossed against his chest seemingly ignoring the pleas of the man who brought him here - it's a nice reminder that though Superman will sacrifice his life for Earth, it isn't because his life is meaningless to him - far from it.
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Post by beccabear67 on Mar 25, 2020 17:31:24 GMT -5
I liked Kitty's reactions when she was introduced to the 'weird' looking X-Men (even without costumes), and how she was particularly freaked out by Nightcrawler's appearance. Phoenix had to make herself look as normal as possible to try to find her again and calm her down!  Unfortunately the 'because I'm so smart' line evolved into Kitty being a genius and brilliant at maths and technology, shades of all the world's greatest scientist characters trope throughout the years, and notice Storm says 'no' about that!  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 25, 2020 19:07:23 GMT -5
Avengers # 20- Brash Hawkeye mouths off to Iron man and is straightened out with a shot of truth as he's confronted with his own past. Stan Lee really changed comics with real world emotions.  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 25, 2020 19:22:47 GMT -5
I love this scene from Brave and the Bold # 100 where Green Arrow sort of admits that he wasn't the best father figure for Speedy.  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 26, 2020 5:16:49 GMT -5
I have maligned Bob Hall for being the artist that drew the important " Fall Of Hank Pym" storyline starting in Avengers # 211, but the 4th panel Of this page in Avengers # 213, absolutely captures the embarrassment that the other Avengers feel as he's psychotically ranting. Just look at the body language of the characters. Just amazing.  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 27, 2020 19:37:47 GMT -5
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