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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 6, 2020 14:37:52 GMT -5
So I've been re-reading some stuff that I haven't read in a while. I thought I'd re-read Planetary and post my thoughts. This won't be a review thread, nor will it be annotations. I just don't have the dedication to follow through. So post thoughts and info after each issue. Planetary Preview by Ellis & Cassaday. Coming out about six months before the first issue this gives us our first look at Elijah Snow, Jakita Wagner and The Drummer, our Planetary team. We get some of the basics of the team, Jakita is the muscle, Drummer controls electronics, Snow...well we aren't sure yet. Planetary's mission is to "map the secret history of the 20th Century." With only eight pages to work with we get this alternate realities take on The Hulk. In 1962 (the year Incredible Hulk #1 came out) David Paine is a weapons designer and genius designing a new bomb on a secret government base. During a test of his bomb the General's (T-bolt Ross analog) wife went looking for Paine stumbled into the path of the blast. At this point we get a replay of the Bruce Banner/Rick Jones Gamma ray blast with Paine becoming a monster, possibly through use of the "integral design theory" that was able to survive the blast. But this monster couldn't turn back and went on a Hulk-like rampage. Ellis and Cassaday set the tone for the book in this short preview. At the time it could well have appeared that we were going to get a look at an alternate history of super-heroes. As we found out we were in for a lot more than that. But this sneak peak was more than enough to whet the appetite for a different look at the things we thought we knew.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 15:13:23 GMT -5
Ha! Just last night I pulled my volumes of Planetary out to reread once I finish with Lazarus. I need to finish Lazarus quickly so I can follow along in time.
-M
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Post by Rob Allen on Apr 6, 2020 15:54:09 GMT -5
I have a complete run of Planetary proper, but I've never seen that preview.
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Post by The Captain on Apr 6, 2020 15:56:00 GMT -5
Nice! I can weave reading Planetary in and out of continuing my read through Iron Man, like a little palate cleanser every so often, so I can participate.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 6, 2020 16:00:10 GMT -5
I have a complete run of Planetary proper, but I've never seen that preview. It appeared in Gen-13 #33 and in C-23 #6, both published by Image and cover dated September '98. It was later reprinted in the various collected editions of Planetary. I hadn't read it until I got the first Planetary hardcover volume.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 6, 2020 16:16:45 GMT -5
Planetary was one of the last books I purchased from a comic book shop. The first issue was released in February of '99 while I was in my last year of law school. I moved from Moscow (Idaho) right after I took the bar exam to my current town where there is not and never has been a comic shop. So I probably picked up the first four or five issues before I left. At that point I had to follow the book in trades.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 6, 2020 16:23:21 GMT -5
I've been meaning to return to this run for ages now!
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Post by The Captain on Apr 6, 2020 16:30:31 GMT -5
Planetary was one of the last books I purchased from a comic book shop. The first issue was released in February of '99 while I was in my last year of law school. I moved from Moscow (Idaho) right after I took the bar exam to my current town where there is not and never has been a comic shop. So I probably picked up the first four or five issues before I left. At that point I had to follow the book in trades. My wife got me the first TPB of Planetary for my first birthday together while we were dating. We'd just started dating two months earlier, but she knew enough about me to know I liked comics and that I shopped at a particular LCS. She went there after work one day and asked the owner if he could recommend something for her to get me as a gift, and he said that he had always been surprised that I hadn't picked up Planetary yet. After that, I got all of the rest of them as floppies (including buying the first six that were in that TPB, for $1 each). She was a keeper from the first date. 20 years as a couple and 18 years married this upcoming June.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 6, 2020 17:32:57 GMT -5
Planetary was one of the last books I purchased from a comic book shop. The first issue was released in February of '99 while I was in my last year of law school. I moved from Moscow (Idaho) right after I took the bar exam to my current town where there is not and never has been a comic shop. So I probably picked up the first four or five issues before I left. At that point I had to follow the book in trades. My wife got me the first TPB of Planetary for my first birthday together while we were dating. We'd just started dating two months earlier, but she knew enough about me to know I liked comics and that I shopped at a particular LCS. She went there after work one day and asked the owner if he could recommend something for her to get me as a gift, and he said that he had always been surprised that I hadn't picked up Planetary yet. After that, I got all of the rest of them as floppies (including buying the first six that were in that TPB, for $1 each). She was a keeper from the first date. 20 years as a couple and 18 years married this upcoming June. Definitely a keeper.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 7, 2020 9:42:22 GMT -5
Planetary #1 by Ellis and Cassaday
The first issue is a tale of two parts. The first half sets up the current team of Planetary as Jakita Wagner recruits Elijah Snow into the team. We find that Snow has been living in the desert as a hermit for a decade (drinking coffee that tastes like dog piss) and is 100 years old (he doesn’t look it). That Planetary consists of three team members (we don’t know what happened to the individual Snow is replacing) and The Fourth Man, a mystery man who funds the team and appears to have unlimited money. The mystery of Who is The Fourth Man will largely inform the first year of the book. The team, as we found out in the preview, are mystery archeologists who look in to the weird events of the 20th Century. The first assignment for this iteration of the team is to look into a man-made cave complex in the Adirondack Mountains, the entrance to which is concealed by a hologram. We also find out that Jakita and Drummer have been with the team at least two years and were involved in heisting diaries from a KGB vault. Snow and Jakita enter and go through a trophy room that contains the skeleton of “The Vulcanis Raven God” (a Lovecraftian critter?), “The Hull of the Charnel Ship” (we’ll find out more in issue #4), “Vestiments of the Black Crow King,“ and “The Murder Colonels” (this sounds like a great pulp novel title). This is a great call-back to the pulp and comic book trope of the trophy room. The main discovery, however, is Dr. Axel Brass, who has been alive and wounded since 1945. Brass is a clear Doc Savage analog and his story tells us how he got to be sitting there alone with shattered legs for over fifty years. Brass introduces us through flashback to a group of heroes (not his associates who would be analogs to Doc Savage’s pals). The group are built around Pulp archetypes including Hark (Fu Manchu), Jimmy (Operator 5), The Aviator (G-8), Edison (Tom Swift), Lord Blackstoke (Tarzan), Brett Leather (The Spider/Shadow). Of course, there were others who followed the archetypes, including a list of Edisonades, Ka-Zar and a host of Tarzan imitators, etc. The gathering was to start a quantum computer that would sift through all realities to come to the ultimate answer of how to stop the War. The computer generates the Snowflake (first appearance) the visualization of the multi-verse. As the answer to the question involved universes coming into and out of existence a group from one of those universes reached across in an attempt to either save their world or to transfer it to that occupied by Brass and friends. The group, also numbering seven, are direct analogs of the original JLA, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Flash and Green Lantern. Of course, there’s a fight…and Axel and company win, with only Brass surviving. In the end we see Planetary transferring him to a place for medical help and taking possession of the quantum computer. It’s pretty clear that Ellis is showing us the usurpation of pulp heroes by their comic book doppelgangers. And while Brass is happy about the victory, the need for the fight and ultimately the victory was put into place because of they operated the computer and visualized The Snowflake. Brass and Company essentially started a Crisis in the Snowflake Multiverse and those “heroes” went to, unsuccessfully, fight the cause of their world’s demise. If Ellis had been trying to hook me on a book he couldn’t have done a better job. If there’s anything I love almost as much as comics it’s pulps. I spent a lot of time in my youth reading and collecting the adventures of Doc Savage, Tarzan, Fu Manchu and the like. Ellis and Cassaday had me absolutely hooked from the start. “It’s a strange world.” “Let’s keep it that way.”
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 7, 2020 11:50:15 GMT -5
I came late to Planetary, since it was Image (Wildstorm) and so little of that line appealed to me. I saw the trade in the bookstore, where I worked, flipped through and saw the gathering of pulp heroes and put it aside to buy, when I was done with work.
It was interesting how it took Doc Savage to an extreme, by having him slowly consume stored tissue for survival, causing his body to slowly wither, as it consumes itself.
There is a lot of Phillip Jose Farmer's Wold Newton concepts in this series, which made it another plus to me.
My only real issue with the concept was in Ellis' recurring theme of immense powers in certain individuals, without much explanation, other than they were Century Babies. Okay, it's a stand-in for mutant; but, it seemed a bit lazy, after it was used several times. Also, when you read a lot of his stories, these immense powers just cut through enemies, until they don't, then they do again. He could be a bit haphazard about setting up the final victory. Planetary had less of that than the Authority did, to my eyes, content more on exploring homages to various sci-fi and fantasy genres, superheroes, spy-fi, and the like.
Cassaday's art was more up my alley than Bryan Hitch or Frank Quitely (on Authority) and he was good with both expressions and body language, as well as the right details to capture period or homage. I especially liked his conception of Baron von Frankenstein's laboratory. I could hear Blue Oyster Cult's Imaginos (Especially "The Siege and Investiture of Baron Von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria") album, in my head, when I read that issue.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 7, 2020 13:15:05 GMT -5
Looking a bit forward to issue two, Jakita's powers seem to track closely to the early Superman. Enhanced strength and speed. Some level of invulnerability. Can see better than Snow. But clearly not the levels that Superman would later attain, thankfully.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 14:15:14 GMT -5
Looking a bit forward to issue two, Jakita's powers seem to track closely to the early Superman. Enhanced strength and speed. Some level of invulnerability. Can see better than Snow. But clearly not the levels that Superman would later attain, thankfully. Yeah, I remember a lot of talk among my comic circle at the time (both in shops and in the internet mailing lists I was a part of), that she was a power analogue of the Siegel/Shuster Supes of the early Action Comics issues, but not quite as powerful as the Fleischer Superman of the animated features. It was part of the reason I finally sought out reading those early Actions in the Archive Editions, and those became my second favorite iteration of Superman (The Fleischer cartoons remain my favorite). -M
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Post by mikelmidnight on Apr 8, 2020 11:36:45 GMT -5
There is a lot of Phillip Jose Farmer's Wold Newton concepts in this series, which made it another plus to me. So noted! Btw, one of the classic 'Edisonades' was a character literally named Thomas Edison Jr, and I've always assumed the Edison here was that dude.
So noted as well. That's also the problem writing someone like the Barry Allen Flash, who ought to have solved all his cases in three pages. Elijah Snow's power is completely devastating but he doesn't seem to use it half the time.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 8, 2020 12:08:00 GMT -5
There is a lot of Phillip Jose Farmer's Wold Newton concepts in this series, which made it another plus to me. So noted! Btw, one of the classic 'Edisonades' was a character literally named Thomas Edison Jr, and I've always assumed the Edison here was that dude.
So noted as well. That's also the problem writing someone like the Barry Allen Flash, who ought to have solved all his cases in three pages. Elijah Snow's power is completely devastating but he doesn't seem to use it half the time.
Reminds me of an episode of The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne, from the Sci-Fi Channel. They had a two-parter where Verne meets old buddy Alexandre Dumas (played by John Rhys Davies) who has these plans for a time machine that he discovered, dating from the time of Louis XIII. Passapartout builds it (he's the engineer of the bunch) and makes it work and they are transported back and Verne becomes d'Artagnan, while Phileas Fogg is the double for Richelieu. Dumas is, of course, Porthos. Anyway, later, they are in America, after stopping the League of Darkness from aiding the Confederacy and travelling by train, where they meet young Tom Edison, who can build all kinds of things. he ends up rebuilding the time chariot and an arms manufacturer manipulates him into weaponizing it. It was an interesting mix of the world of Verne and the Edisonades. The series, in general, mixed steampunk stuff with some other genres, including one that tread on vampires (with a surprisingly good Patrick Duffy), and a nice Edisonade where Passapartout builds a steam powered robot gunfighter, to face Jesse James! The CGI never totally looked right on that show, but, the stories qwere quite good, once it got going, though Chris Demetrios was rather bland as Verne. Thankfully, Francesca Hunt and Michael Praed were there, as Rebecca and Phileas Fogg, to liven things up. Phileas is a secret agent who left it behind, after a botched mission, while Rebecca, his cousin, is an active agent (a sort of Victorian Emma Peel). The League of Darkness was a secret society that seeks to sow chaos so that the can manipulate governments and are led by a former knight who was drawn and quarted, yet survives through science.
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