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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 15, 2020 17:53:31 GMT -5
MWGallaher, you wrote: "Issue 81 is the only time that Neal Adams was inked by Vince Colletta. Adams and company elected to add additional inks to the completed pages, to bring the art more in line with his own aesthetic than Colletta’s, but the trained eye can spot plenty of Vince’s ink lines remaining in the work, particularly in backgrounds and incidental characters."
Just relishing the irony of that boldfaced portion for a moment.
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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 15, 2020 19:59:04 GMT -5
...attempting to maintain my air of neutrality while laughing out loud, Prince Hal ...
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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 18, 2020 20:33:32 GMT -5
Lucky Seven: Now we’re in the territory of the elite co-stars, and let’s face it, if you hadn’t been familiar with The Brave and the Bold, you’d never predict that two of the top three recurring guest stars would be DC’s premier war comics hero and a team of misfit robots whose own comic was not being published at the time of most of their appearances.
First up, the Rock of Easy:
Sgt. Rock joined in for issues 84, 96, 108, 117, 124, 162, and shared the guest spot with Deadman and Sherlock Holmes in DC Special Series 8. He also appeared as one of the “3 Battle Stars” in issue #52, for a total of eight team-ups over the run.
Rock’s first meeting with Batman (Bob Haney and Neal Adams) has Batman recall an adventure in which he was called in by the US Government to assist in tracking down war saboteurs--during World War II! So, at least 24 years in the past as of then, Bruce Wayne was Batman, according to Haney. The story concludes in the then-present, with Wayne meeting up again with Sgt. Rock, still in the army. Some see this as a classic example of Bob Haney’s casual approach to timelines, continuity, and DC’s established parallel Earth concepts, but I suppose it was reasonable to consider the 1969 Batman to be in his mid-40’s, old enough to have participated in the war in the early days of his career. Murray Boltinoff didn’t print any complaints in the letter column two issues later, so maybe the fans of the day didn’t have a problem with it.
Rock’s back 12 issues later in a story by Haney and Nick Cardy, this time set entirely in the present day. (The modern Rock is depicted with red hair, not the silver he was shown with in the previous team-up.) Rock remembers Bruce Wayne and Batman from the war, tying the two stories together in B&B continuity. None of Rock’s comrades from Easy Company are here, as Rock is stationed in an American Embassy in South America. Rock’s next appearance, in 108, is a real corker by Haney and Aparo, in which Batman sells his soul to a mysterious stranger to escape from...a well? (Why did the old man fall down the well? Because he couldn’t see that well.) Rock’s been pursuing the mysterious figure since the war, convinced he is Hitler! A wild mash-up of superhero, supernatural, and war comics!
In 117, (a short 11 issues later!), Rock’s working as an Army recruiter, and reveals to Batman that Eddie Slovik was not the only soldier executed for cowardice in WWII--Rock personally was part of the firing squad that executed one other, Cpl. Dan Cathcart. Rock’s being haunted by what he thinks is the ghost of Cathcart! Once again, adventure, the supernatural, and war blend together for a strong issue. Haney’s hit on a sweet formula for Rock’s appearances.
Rock’s back only 7 issues later, for the legendary issue 124, what many consider the highlight of the entire series. More on this later.
Haney’s last chance to team Rock and Batman was in DC Special Series #8, co-starring Deadman (and Sherlock Holmes!). This extra-length adventure was a little less special due to the lackluster art of Ric Estrada and Dick Giordano, and it again brought supernatural elements into the mix in a “team-up” in which the characters never actually meet...an intentional twist, according to the text page in the issue.
Rock’s final B&B, issue 162, came in an era of rotating writers, and Bill Kelley, who had racked up scripting credits mostly in DC’s war comics, served up a story with the Earth-2 Batman (no yellow oval on the chest, confirmed as the “original darknight detective” on the splash ) teaming with Rock in WWII to face Rock’s recurring nemesis, the Iron Major. Kelley establishes that this is in continuity with issue 84, contradicting Haney’s establishing that as being the Earth-1 Batman!
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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 21, 2020 10:08:09 GMT -5
The Metal Men teamed with Batman in issues 74, 103, 113, 121, 135, 136, 187. They also teamed with the Atom in 55 and Metamorpho in 66, for a total of nine pairings over the run. As mentioned previously, issue 136, the second of two parts, also featured Green Arrow.
So how was it that the Metal Men would be runners-up for the most guest-starring appearances in B&B? I can only speculate.
At first, it would seem unlikely that the Metal Men would boost issue sales. After all, they couldn’t sustain their own comic for long at any time in the B&B glory days of the 70’s. But it may be that that small contingent of Metal Men fans would buy B&B yet pass on other issues, helping to increase sales. DC’s former publisher, Dan DiDio, is a huge fan, having taken two opportunities to write them himself (in Wednesday Comics and in the currently running maxi-series). Metal Men fans clearly do exist, so...it’s possible.
Bob Haney must have liked writing the characters. But they weren’t his “babies”, they were Robert Kanigher’s creation, and I wouldn’t expect Haney to “adopt” characters so closely associated with a then-working writer, but there’s no question they fit well into the kinds of stories he liked to tell.
Returning to the previously-discussed issue of trademark protection, it could be that DC not only wanted to hang on to “Metal Men”, but saw potential in them for toys, cartoons, or a revival (which did in fact happen for a while in the 70’s). B&B would be a place to keep them alive and somewhat in the eyes of comics fandom.
In their first two B&B appearances, the Metal Men were teamed with the Atom (#55) and Metamorpho (#66). The Atom team-up was essentially a Metal Men story with an Atom cameo, served up by Bob Haney and the art team of Ramona Fradon and Charles Paris. Fradon was an inspired choice of penciller for the Metal Men, who’d been monopolized by Ross Andru throughout their own title. Mike Sekowsky (who would inherit the Metal Men title from Kanigher and Andru) handled the Metamorpho team-up. It’s a pretty obvious pairing, really: the Element Man with a set of robots based on specific elements, and Haney matches Kanigher’s whimsical approach while throwing in plenty of his own signature craziness, including curing Rex Mason (temporarily) and a mad scientist who’s created his own, inferior Metal Men while marooned away from news about Will Magnus’s team.
Original Metal Men artist Ross Andru came in to handle the robots’ first team-up with Batman in #74, which featured a “robot convention” with what appears to be hundreds of sentient robots. As Batman says in the conclusion: “Great! Robots need something like this! After all--they’re people, too!”
Issue #103 was just three issues after I jumped on the B&B bandwagon, and was my second exposure to the team, following a reprint in a Flash Super-Spectacular a couple of months prior. An all-reprint revival would follow in less than a year, so there must have been either good sales or an effort to keep them in the spotlight. I was disappointed by the absence of Jim Aparo, who had taken over as the regular artist as of #100, but I had missed the immediately previous issue, wherein Neal Adams stepped in to finish an issue Aparo had started but dropped due to illness. I guess Murray Boltinoff gave this one to Bob Brown to drawn when Aparo took ill.
This story of a computer AI that tries to take over the world borrows from the 1969 film “Colossus: The Forbin Project”, something I recognized even at age 12, without having seen the movie. The story does resolve the situation the robots were in when their own comic was cancelled: “The New, Hunted Metal Men” were passing for humans in disguise. Gold is still maintaining his fake human identity, but Mercury’s had enough, and is recruiting Gold to go public again with the “Robots Lib” movement! Three of the other robots are “out” now, working public but demeaning jobs: iron in a scrap yard, Lead handling radioactive isotopes, and Platinum as a go-go dancer. Tin is living in a secluded cottage with his still-nameless robot wife.
Haney echoes the previous Batman team-up, with a “Robots Lib” convention. Memories of Doc Magnus turn the Metal Men from the anti-human sentiment that the convention has stirred in them, and they agree to help Batman prevent the nuclear war that the convention’s featured robot speaker is helping to bring about. In so doing, Haney nicks from another cinematic classic about AI gone mad, with Gold yanking memory modules in an aisle of racks just like Dave Bowman did to HAL-9000.
(Of some possible interest: in the letters page, Bob Haney fills in the gaps between Metamorpho’s final issue and his revival in issue #101--some untold history for Rex Mason!) In #113’s “The Fifty Story Killer”, a 100-page issue with the new story by Haney and Aparo, Jim Gordon has been forced out as Gotham’s police commissioner, and the new guy also insists Batman retire, to be replaced by the Metal Men. Batman folds (too easily), but by the story’s end, both he and Gordon have been “recommissioned”--Haney’s Batman, of course, is a rightfully deputized officer of the law.
On the letters page, Murray Boltinoff responds to a “Mike Gallagher” by presenting a bio of artist Jim Aparo, and encouraged readers interested in a Jim Aparo Fan Club to write him at 1364 Vicoscia, Memphis TN, 38127. I have it on good authority that letters were indeed sent there, including one nearly 20 years later that led finally to a year or two of the Jim Aparo Fan Club Newsletter, co-published with Houston TX letterhack Chris Khalaf.
Issue #121 celebrates America’s Bicentennial with the Metal Men assisting Batman in protecting a train touring the country to display the original documents of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. Bats and the robots are along for the tour, promoted as part of the attraction. This time around, Haney shows even more atypical interest in established continuity, as the Metal Men are being teased into pursuing leads in the whereabouts of their creator, Will Magnus, who’s been traitorous and crazed since near the end of their own series.
Issues 135-136 formed a two-part continued story. Since last we saw our elemental sextet, they were reunited with a restored Doc Magnus, who participates in this story. More about this one in a later post!
In their final appearance in the original B&B run, Haney is gone, replace by a rotating roster of writers. This time, Charlie Boatner pens #187, and Jim Aparo illustrates “Whatever Happened To What’s ‘Er Name?”, revealing the sad and touching fate of Tin’s wife, last seen in #103. Batman remembers a 7th member, but the Metal Men do not. Even Doc Magnus denies the existence of “Beautiful”, Tin’s name for the female robot the rest of them called “Nameless”. In a tale that brings back multiple robotic villains from the Metal Men’s past, Nameless gets named, and officially married to Tin (ignoring the previously-stated married relationship in #103).
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 21, 2020 11:20:46 GMT -5
Another fun and informative post, MWGallaher ! That final Metal Men appearance sounds a bit like the JLA saga in 100-103, with the forgotten member of the Seven Soldiers. Not to be picky, but IIRC, the Metal Men were a surprise hit right out of the block in Showcase and in their first couple of years, and I would guess that their early appearances in B and B with the Atom and Metamorpho were designed to bring fans to B and B and, especially in the case of Metamorpho, boost his sales. FWIW, according to Comichron (https://www.comichron.com/titlespotlights/metalmen.html), Metal Men were selling close to 400,000 copies a month in 1966; it was DC's top-selling title that didn't feature Batman or Superman. From 1964 through 1967, MM sales went from 295,513 to 334,245, to a high of 396,506, and then plunged to 239,700 in 1967, which accounts for the change in direction to the "Hunted" Metal Men. Kanigher was ousted as editor (or gave up the job) first to Jack Miller, and them to Sekowsky, who had been pencilling since the change and would continue to do so. I do think there has always been a reliable cadre of fans -- and fan-turned-pros -- with a soft spot for the Metal Men, who like the Doom Patrol (why no team-up for them with Batman?!) were a kind of off-model for DC, with the "Don't take this all so seriously" vibe. Both were more like Marvel titles with their frequent dissension and outcast feel.
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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 21, 2020 17:12:21 GMT -5
No question the Metal Men were hits in their day, but that day seemed to be past us in the 1970's. Still, that history of success must have fueled DC's confidence in the property, and retained some good feelings among the early fans who continued to buy comics. Metal Men being behind only the Superman and Batman comics does surprise me, but it probably shouldn't: robots were all the rage in the 60's and early 70's, as I well remember, and robot heroes were hard to find on the comics stands (I can only drudge up the one-shot Microbots from Western and the pedestrian Automan from Jack Schiff's stable of DC mediocrity as alternatives, but I must be missing something, right?).
I failed to mention that the Metal Men made a return to B&B in The Silver Age: The Brave and the Bold #1 (and only) in 2000. Jim Aparo penciled the cover in his B&B capstone.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 21, 2020 18:57:15 GMT -5
No question the Metal Men were hits in their day, but that day seemed to be past us in the 1970's. Still, that history of success must have fueled DC's confidence in the property, and retained some good feelings among the early fans who continued to buy comics. Metal Men being behind only the Superman and Batman comics does surprise me, but it probably shouldn't: robots were all the rage in the 60's and early 70's, as I well remember, and robot heroes were hard to find on the comics stands (I can only drudge up the one-shot Microbots from Western and the pedestrian Automan from Jack Schiff's stable of DC mediocrity as alternatives, but I must be missing something, right?). I failed to mention that the Metal Men made a return to B&B in The Silver Age: The Brave and the Bold #1 (and only) in 2000. Jim Aparo penciled the cover in his B&B capstone. Oh, yes, I was referring to their early appearances. After that, it was either trademark or an affinity for them that got them in so often.
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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 26, 2020 11:48:42 GMT -5
Perfect Ten: Green Arrow was, as I’m sure most everyone reading this thread knew, the most frequently-appearing co-star in The Brave and the Bold. Green Arrow participated in ten team-ups with Batman, and he kicked off the team-up era of B&B in issue 50, for a total of 11 team-up appearances.
Why Green Arrow? The usual speculations probably all have some validity: the creative team liked him, DC wanted to preserve the trademark in an era when GA didn’t get his logo on many covers, his appearances sold well. From a scripter’s perspective, in particular Bob Haney’s, GA was an easy character to pair up with Batman. At the time of his first Batman team-up, in 1969, he was little more than a Batman clone, which he had been for his entire publishing history: fought crime with his ward Speedy, drove around in an Arrowcar, had lots of gimmicks (in his case, confined to arrows instead of secreted in a “utility belt”) to use at the plot’s convenience. As a skilled but not super-powered hero, he didn’t outclass the Batman, as a fellow JLAer he was easy to call into any story, and he fit well into the kinds of stories with non-super-powered threats that Haney favored in the 70’s.
Of the most historic significance is Green Arrow’s appearance in issue 85, “The Senator’s Been Shot”. With no ongoing backup feature at the time, Green Arrow was approved for a visual renovation courtesy of Neal Adams, who whipped up one of the most modern and appealing wardrobe upgrades a DC character had ever seen. I’m pretty sure this was the first DC superhero with facial hair in the Silver Age (before that, I can only think of Air Wave, who, I believe, sported a mustache?). In a single appearance, the mundane Battling Bowman was transformed into an exciting figure that must have startled readers at the time, with upper arms bared to the shoulder, strapped arm guards on the lower arms, a mix of two shades of green rather than the clashing red and green he’d sported before, and that hip, blond Van Dyke on his face, implying a counter-culture affinity so contrary to the stick-in-the-mud conservative tone of DC’s main characters.
In this issue, Haney didn’t do too much to shift Oliver Queen’s personality in line with his timely makeover, leaving that instead to Denny O’Neill, who’d bring Ollie in as the permanent co-star with Green Lantern. But he did drop the dependence on trick arrows, which was a pretty daring change in GA’s M.O. And the new look was an instant hit: in the responding letter column, editor Murray Boltinoff claims they got an avalanche of mail on this one, and I believe it! And now a quick review of his appearances:
50, October/November 1963 : The original Green Team, GA and J’onn J’onzz take on a gang of Martians in the first B&B team-up. J’onn uses Professor Erdel’s machine which brought him (and stranded him) on Earth to casually transport himself back to his own planet and chat with his pals there. I’ve read the entirety of J’onn’s solo run, and maybe I’ve forgotten some of the changes, but I don’t remember this being a thing he could do...If not, Haney got off to a B&B team-up start with his characteristic continuity-flaunting ways.
71, April/May 1967: Long-time GA artist George Papp handles Ollie’s first team-up with Batman in a pedestrian outing.
85, August/September 1969: Haney and Adams begin the redefinition of Green Arrow for the modern era.
100, February/March 1972: Robin joins in as GA brings along his co-stars Green Lantern and Black Canary from the GL/GA comic, to serve as Batman’s agents when he’s temporarily disabled. This was my first issue of B&B, so I’ve very partial to it.
106, March/April 1973: A quick return for Ollie, one year later for the then-bimonthly series. Jim Aparo gets his first chance to tackle the archer, and acquits himself very well as the pair of heroes confront a mystery villain. Haney mucks with ongoing continuity, taking it upon himself to restore Ollie’s fortune. Later, the letter column does some hand-waving about the stories in B&B and elsewhere in the DC line not occurring chronologically.
129, September 1976-130, October 1976: A two-parter with a three-hero team (Batman, GA, and the Atom) against Joker and Two-Face. Joker had made a splash in his first shocking B&B guest-starring role, and Two-Face was (spoiler alert!) the mystery villain in GA’s previous appearance. Green Arrow was in the line-up of both of the “4 Famous Co-Stars” cover-billed on #100 and #130.
136, September 1977: GA joins for part two of a continued story, jumping into an adventure with Batman and the Metal Men. GA takes his sweet time, not showing until page 8, seeking Doc Magnus to “test some new arrow designs!” Wait, scratch what I said before about it being easy to bring GA into these stories...that’s a pretty flimsy justification. 144, November 1978: This is a wild one, with magic arrows, the heroes traveling back in time to the time of the knights, and the return of the Gargoyle, a villain that no one but Haney remembered from a couple of his Teen Titans issues. Also appearing is Merlin, drawn by Aparo in an admirable DC Universe continuity to match Jack Kirby’s version from the Demon.
168, November 1980: Haney’s gone, and Cary Burkett continues the B&B beat with Jim Aparo in a good-looking yarn revolving around escape artists. Probably best not to have included Mr. Miracle in on this one, since he’d have made everyone look bad by comparison.
185, April 1982: GA’s final B&B appearance came in an era of fill-in talent, this time writer Don Kraar and artists Adrian Gonzales and Mike deCarlo. A poor close to Green Arrow’s co-starring streak, this is a chore to read and not very pleasant to look at. The Penguin was the villain in this one; a few years earlier, and I have no doubt that they would have listed his logo up top on the cover. As it is, he’s the only one of the top tier Batman villains who didn’t get prime billing, but he did appear at least a couple of times.
Looking over the timeline, GA appeared on at least an annual basis in ‘76-’78, but other than those years, he showed up every 2-3 years--not exactly overexposure, just a reliable standby. His stories demonstrated considerable variety, and most were high quality, appealingly drawn issues. Had DC ever decided to give Batman a break from B&B, it seems likely that Green Arrow would have been the odds-on favorite to slip into the lead position.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 26, 2020 12:57:57 GMT -5
Kudos, as always, MWGallaher, on an outstanding thread. Wondering if in any of your research, you came across the justification for teaming J'onn J'onzz and Green Arrow in that first B and B team-up issue. I know I've read somewhere that the thought behind the pairing was that those two characters were a kind of counterpart to the Superman/ Batman team in World's Finest. One super-powered, the other not. I think they wanted to see if the pair of perennial back-ups might catch lightning in a bottle. I'm guessing the sales results were read as no lightning, and maybe not even a bottle.
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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 27, 2020 5:57:04 GMT -5
I have not seen any specific justification, Prince Hal . The "World's Finest" comparison is certainly apt. Green Arrow was intentionally written from the start to follow the Batman template, and the Manhunter had evolved into a Superman analog (with a similarly tragic origin plight, even if it was undercut in B&B #50), so they had a guideline on how to team up these characters with significantly unbalanced power sets. Unlike most of the other likely contenders for a B&B headlining gig at the time, GA and MM were appearing only in backups, with only a small blurb on the World's Finest and Detective Comics covers when they appeared, so this selection gave DC the chance to measure their cover appeal. I suspect this metric was more on their mind than the potential for a new World's Second-Finest buddy book. Trying out a team-up of potential headliners at once may have seemed less risky than a Showcase-like solo spotlight, but they didn't seem to do this enough for it to seem like the intentional guiding strategy of B&B: the next times that GA or MM would appear, they'd be alongside established top-tier characters (Batman and the Flash). The only other trial balloons that took the team-up approach were Starman, Black Canary (& Wildcat), and Robin, Kid Flash & Aqualad. Those, though, do seem to me to have been intended as ongoing partnerships, since none of those characters had ongoing backup features at the time. I think DC quickly realized the appeal of the book was the novelty of the team-up, not the opportunity to showcase a potential lead character, and therefore relied mainly on established headline features to fuel them.
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Post by zaku on Jul 27, 2020 6:47:31 GMT -5
Perfect Ten:Green Arrow was, as I’m sure most everyone reading this thread knew, the most frequently-appearing co-star in The Brave and the Bold. Green Arrow participated in ten team-ups with Batman, and he kicked off the team-up era of B&B in issue 50, for a total of 11 team-up appearances. Why Green Arrow? The usual speculations probably all have some validity: the creative team liked him, DC wanted to preserve the trademark in an era when GA didn’t get his logo on many covers, his appearances sold well. From a scripter’s perspective, in particular Bob Haney’s, GA was an easy character to pair up with Batman. At the time of his first Batman team-up, in 1969, he was little more than a Batman clone, which he had been for his entire publishing history: fought crime with his ward Speedy, drove around in an Arrowcar, had lots of gimmicks (in his case, confined to arrows instead of secreted in a “utility belt”) to use at the plot’s convenience. As a skilled but not super-powered hero, he didn’t outclass the Batman, as a fellow JLAer he was easy to call into any story, and he fit well into the kinds of stories with non-super-powered threats that Haney favored in the 70’s. Of the most historic significance is Green Arrow’s appearance in issue 85, “The Senator’s Been Shot”. With no ongoing backup feature at the time, Green Arrow was approved for a visual renovation courtesy of Neal Adams, who whipped up one of the most modern and appealing wardrobe upgrades a DC character had ever seen. I’m pretty sure this was the first DC superhero with facial hair in the Silver Age (before that, I can only think of Air Wave, who, I believe, sported a mustache?). In a single appearance, the mundane Battling Bowman was transformed into an exciting figure that must have startled readers at the time, with upper arms bared to the shoulder, strapped arm guards on the lower arms, a mix of two shades of green rather than the clashing red and green he’d sported before, and that hip, blond Van Dyke on his face, implying a counter-culture affinity so contrary to the stick-in-the-mud conservative tone of DC’s main characters. In this issue, Haney didn’t do too much to shift Oliver Queen’s personality in line with his timely makeover, leaving that instead to Denny O’Neill, who’d bring Ollie in as the permanent co-star with Green Lantern. But he did drop the dependence on trick arrows, which was a pretty daring change in GA’s M.O. And the new look was an instant hit: in the responding letter column, editor Murray Boltinoff claims they got an avalanche of mail on this one, and I believe it! And now a quick review of his appearances: 50, October/November 1963 : The original Green Team, GA and J’onn J’onzz take on a gang of Martians in the first B&B team-up. J’onn uses Professor Erdel’s machine which brought him (and stranded him) on Earth to casually transport himself back to his own planet and chat with his pals there. I’ve read the entirety of J’onn’s solo run, and maybe I’ve forgotten some of the changes, but I don’t remember this being a thing he could do...If not, Haney got off to a B&B team-up start with his characteristic continuity-flaunting ways. 71, April/May 1967: Long-time GA artist George Papp handles Ollie’s first team-up with Batman in a pedestrian outing. 85, August/September 1969: Haney and Adams begin the redefinition of Green Arrow for the modern era. 100, February/March 1972: Robin joins in as GA brings along his co-stars Green Lantern and Black Canary from the GL/GA comic, to serve as Batman’s agents when he’s temporarily disabled. This was my first issue of B&B, so I’ve very partial to it. 106, March/April 1973: A quick return for Ollie, one year later for the then-bimonthly series. Jim Aparo gets his first chance to tackle the archer, and acquits himself very well as the pair of heroes confront a mystery villain. Haney mucks with ongoing continuity, taking it upon himself to restore Ollie’s fortune. Later, the letter column does some hand-waving about the stories in B&B and elsewhere in the DC line not occurring chronologically. 129, September 1976-130, October 1976: A two-parter with a three-hero team (Batman, GA, and the Atom) against Joker and Two-Face. Joker had made a splash in his first shocking B&B guest-starring role, and Two-Face was (spoiler alert!) the mystery villain in GA’s previous appearance. Green Arrow was in the line-up of both of the “4 Famous Co-Stars” cover-billed on #100 and #130. 136, September 1977: GA joins for part two of a continued story, jumping into an adventure with Batman and the Metal Men. GA takes his sweet time, not showing until page 8, seeking Doc Magnus to “test some new arrow designs!” Wait, scratch what I said before about it being easy to bring GA into these stories...that’s a pretty flimsy justification. 144, November 1978: This is a wild one, with magic arrows, the heroes traveling back in time to the time of the knights, and the return of the Gargoyle, a villain that no one but Haney remembered from a couple of his Teen Titans issues. Also appearing is Merlin, drawn by Aparo in an admirable DC Universe continuity to match Jack Kirby’s version from the Demon. 168, November 1980: Haney’s gone, and Cary Burkett continues the B&B beat with Jim Aparo in a good-looking yarn revolving around escape artists. Probably best not to have included Mr. Miracle in on this one, since he’d have made everyone look bad by comparison. 185, April 1982: GA’s final B&B appearance came in an era of fill-in talent, this time writer Don Kraar and artists Adrian Gonzales and Mike deCarlo. A poor close to Green Arrow’s co-starring streak, this is a chore to read and not very pleasant to look at. The Penguin was the villain in this one; a few years earlier, and I have no doubt that they would have listed his logo up top on the cover. As it is, he’s the only one of the top tier Batman villains who didn’t get prime billing, but he did appear at least a couple of times. Looking over the timeline, GA appeared on at least an annual basis in ‘76-’78, but other than those years, he showed up every 2-3 years--not exactly overexposure, just a reliable standby. His stories demonstrated considerable variety, and most were high quality, appealingly drawn issues. Had DC ever decided to give Batman a break from B&B, it seems likely that Green Arrow would have been the odds-on favorite to slip into the lead position. I think pre-Crisis it was a very hard time if someone was a Green Arrow a fan. I consulted this character's excellent chronology and I see his solo adventures where published everywhere. Serious question: if one was a completist, how did he know at the time if the next Emerald Archer story would appear in Batman, Action Comics, Detective comic or whatever?
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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 27, 2020 9:51:08 GMT -5
He was indeed all over the place, zaku, which suggests to me that he, of all of the DC stable, was always recognized by DC as being on the cusp of a breakthrough to a major solo feature. Which, obviously, was eventually borne out by long runs in comics and on tv. As a practical matter, DC fans of the times had to keep an eye on the in-house promotion pages (like "Direct Currents" and the "Daily Planet") to see whether Ollie was in Action Comics, or World's Finest, or Detective Comics. He must have been bringing some extra eyes to those titles--it's not very common for a back-up feature to supplant Batman on the cover, as on Detective Comics #521!
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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 28, 2020 17:50:28 GMT -5
The supporting cast:Yes, Brave & Bold did have a “supporting cast”, albeit a minimal one. A recurring character created for and debuting in Brave & Bold #95 in early 1971, who, until more modern eras, appeared exclusively in occasional issues of B&B, and nowhere else. The character was Ruby Ryder, created by scripter Bob Haney and rendered first by the inimitable Nick Cardy. Ruby was a ruthless red-haired businesswoman who brought heartache and misery to the life of the previously carefree Plastic Man. In Plas’s first B&B appearance, Bob Haney tried to match the whimsical tone of DC’s short-lived Plastic Man comic, but when Plas returned as the mystery guest (“?”) in issue 95, the tone got really dark. Bribed with a $5 million contribution to the charity of his choice, Batman hunts down the missing studly Kyle Morgan, who has jilted Ruby, and returns him to Ruby’s HQ, whereupon Ruby guns him down in cold blood! The cops now attempt to arrest Batman as a hired accomplice to murder...but of course, Batman prevails, brings Ruby in to face the music: a guilty verdict of murder 1, followed months later with a trip to the electric chair. On page 19, we finally learn that Kyle has survived, since, being in fact Plastic Man, his pliable body was not seriously harmed by the bullet. He was easily able to impersonate his own corpse, setting Ruby up for execution. Turns out Plas was tired of being viewed as a clown, so took on a glamorous identity and romanced Miss Ryder, bailing when he found out what a witch she was. He claims he would have spared her (he was posing as the executioner in the death chamber), but that’s a pretty heavy payback just for being a nightmare girlfriend, considering Ruby’s legal fees, months on death row, and mental anguish! Plas, somehow, claims to still love her as he and Batman casually discuss his future at the story’s close. Karma plays out, and when Plas returns to team up with Batman and Metamorpho in issue 123, he’s a pan-handling bum, a step down from his stint in a freak show! Recruited by Bruce Wayne to impersonate Batman (Bruce was being pretty casual with his secret identity!), Plas gets too wrapped up in the role and forgets he’s NOT Batman. In a repeat perversion of our justice system, Plas/Batman gets Bruce Wayne locked up, to the delight of Ruby Ryder, who’s got a grudge with Wayne. But Ruby’s been onto him the whole time, and was responsible for Plas’s confused mental state; she’s gotten revenge on both of them now! Ruby ends up heading back into legal jeopardy, and Plas ends up with a renewed confidence in his potential as a superhero. Ruby’s all done ruining Plastic Man’s life, and when she returns to B&B, it’s in a two-parter with Batman, Metal Men, and Green Arrow in issues 135-136, even making the cover! Ruby must have some good lawyers, because she’s operating freely here, even cooperating with Bruce Wayne to dig up a time capsule buried between their respective skyscrapers (Ruby’s has a distinctive Double-R structure mounted atop hers). Bruce is not just cooperating, he’s suppressing his own feelings of attraction for her! When the Metal Men dig up the capsule, out pops a primitive goon claiming to be the son of the scientist who buried it 100 years ago. Next, a duplicate of the goon, Jason Morgan, also emerges, rips the arm off the first version of Jason Morgan, and abducts Ruby. Doc Magnus later confirms that this is a robot, not a “humanoid” (an artificial being more human in form and intelligence than a robot, supposedly the goal of time capsule burier Thaddeus Morgan). Haney complicates the narrative even more, with the destroyed Jason Morgan humanoid/robot being made of modern materials, thus stashed recently in the capsule. True to her M.O., it turns out that Ruby is not in danger, and has the live Jason wrapped around her little finger, proclaiming love for the brutish hunchback (I must be smarter than Batman, who falls for Ruby’s proclamation as he eavesdrops; I think Ruby’s using the ogre just like she used Plas!). In court, Ruby convinces a judge that Jason is human enough to inherit his father Thaddeus’s estate, which includes the land on which Wayne’s skyscraper stands: Ruby’s proxy, Jason, is now the owner of the building, and Bruce is evicted as Ruby takes over! In part two, Green Arrow comes in to help by seducing Ruby and convincing her there’s more to be dug up. Jason’s overwhelmed with jealousy, Ruby’s own building is destroyed, and Jason dies saving her from the falling wreckage. Documents prove that Thaddeus was insane, which somehow invalidates his will, so Bruce gets his building back. And Ruby? Batman’s wised up and realizes she’s not shedding tears over the pathetic Jason… ...except she is. And that’s it. Ruby Ryder, lying, cutthroat, criminal, conniving, irresistible, manipulative, impossible to convict tycoon, but ultimately, not quite as heartless as Haney’s painted her over her brief stint as B&B’s sole supporting cast member.
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Post by MWGallaher on Aug 12, 2020 22:08:39 GMT -5
Week...I've lost count...And Farrar wants to see cars in motion! I've memorized all the Hour Man covers, my final holdout, so when I saw this topic, I was ready to finish out the challenge with Adventure Comics #58, from January 1941: Backup Reprint Feature Commentary:Hour Man appeared in B&B #115 in a reprint from Showcase #55, a team-up with Dr. Fate. I think he'd have been a terrific co-star in the Haney/Aparo era, and since the B&B team already used Earth-2 characters like Spectre and Wildcat willy-nilly, why not throw in a one-hour adventure with Rex "Tick-Tock" Tyler, the Man of the Hour? We'll never know, because they never did. Sitting on Hour Man for as long as I have, I've worked up an interest in the character, and toyed with the idea of a review thread along the lines of chadwilliam's terrific Spectre thread. I've always found the character appealing, and I even once had a page of original Hour Man art (from his mid-60's backup adventure in The Spectre, drawn by Dick Dillin and Sid Greene). The concept suggests a unique sort of modest adventure story, since with an hour limit on a fairly modest power set, you can't really expect the guy to take on major-league threats that might require long-term super-heroics. This made him a bad fit for the JSA, where he was the first released from duty, and it didn't set him up to be a super-star, but he had something unique that could have been exploited to good effect. Maybe I'll do that thread, after all...
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Post by beccabear67 on Aug 12, 2020 22:17:13 GMT -5
I used to spend the day with my Dad at his delivery truck job some days and he would usually buy me a comic to read at some point. B&B #136 is the only specific one I remember (and the Sea World ad on the back), they must not've had any Scamps. I should add it and the issue leading into it, #135, to my want list. I thought the Metal Men were pretty wild, especially Mercury!
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