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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Jul 6, 2020 14:36:54 GMT -5
I have never used CGC but have been very tempted lately. Then I see this, and hear about how bad they've been as a company recently. Can you spot what they did? Also feel free to share any CGC horror stories here.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 16:05:36 GMT -5
This is always a touchy subject here. I am not sure this thread will last long. I get that for the most part these services do what they are advertised to do, but there are things about them that definitely need to be improved or rethought. Here's one example of that... This is about the Edgar Church copy of Boy Comics #17, a pretty recognizable book because of its pedigree coming from the Edgar Church collection. from Robert Beerbohm... Here's the slabbed book the first time it was submitted...  the second time...  and the third...  at no time were the restorations recognized or noted, nor were they aware they were grading the same book multiple times because no one thought to wonder why there were 3 copies of the Edgar Church (singular) book graded, all identified by the cursive D written on the cover. That said, grading services offer a service that is of value to a certain segment of the collecting community, and I don't begrudge those who use it. However, I would expect a certain level of professionalism and integrity to keep their services credible and reliable, and the fact that fees can vary based on the grade received for certain key or high demand books would trouble me because it gives the company financial incentive to provide higher grades. -M |
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Jul 6, 2020 21:49:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the input mrp, I did not realize CGC was a touchy subject here.
I think I'd rather spend the $50 or so it costs for another classic book anyways.
So be it!
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Post by shaxper on Jul 6, 2020 22:18:04 GMT -5
Can you spot what they did? I'll bite. I don't see it. What am I missing? |
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Jul 6, 2020 22:55:13 GMT -5
Can you spot what they did? I'll bite. I don't see it. What am I missing? It says it should have two signatures, Jim Starlin's and George Perez's. But there is only one! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 23:03:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the input mrp, I did not realize CGC was a touchy subject here. I think I'd rather spend the $50 or so it costs for another classic book anyways. So be it! If I were looking to sell off high grade or key books, I would strongly consider it, as it definitely increases the resale vale of those books and negates a lot of potential hassles and headaches in the selling process. The slab can also protect the book in the shipping process if it is being purchased via the net. As a buyer, I am not really interested, as it increases the asking price of books I am trying to get and I prefer to get stuff as inexpensively as possible, but I am not the target consumer for these. I see the value to the collecting community, and understand why those who do partake of it choose to do so, but again I am not the target customer for it. -M |
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Post by chadwilliam on Jul 6, 2020 23:33:29 GMT -5
I'll bite. I don't see it. What am I missing? It says it should have two signatures, Jim Starlin's and George Perez's. But there is only one! What if he's signed the interior? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 23:36:30 GMT -5
Thanks for the input mrp, I did not realize CGC was a touchy subject here. I think I'd rather spend the $50 or so it costs for another classic book anyways. So be it!
Have a friend who has a premium yearly subscription to CGC which costs $149
And he says he gets 6-8 books graded free with that sub, so it works out closer to $19-25 per book.
The grading fee depends on the value you declare for the book you submit. So if you value a $500 book at $100, and it gets damaged, you might only get $100 back.
My meager input into this thread, as it tends to turn into a crap-fest.
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Jul 6, 2020 23:54:29 GMT -5
It says it should have two signatures, Jim Starlin's and George Perez's. But there is only one! What if he's signed the interior? I wish that were the case, but not in this instance. I believe it would also have to state the interior signing. They definitely swapped the book, and probably 0% chance the sender gets the original book back. More than likely they'll give him a credit and let him keep the wrong book. I guess he's now a proud owner of a rare ghost signature variant.  |
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Post by shaxper on Jul 7, 2020 2:01:40 GMT -5
I'll bite. I don't see it. What am I missing? It says it should have two signatures, Jim Starlin's and George Perez's. But there is only one! I thought the second signature was silver and near the spine. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 2:05:39 GMT -5
It says it should have two signatures, Jim Starlin's and George Perez's. But there is only one! I thought the second signature was silver and near the spine. I think that's smoke from Doc Strange's brazier as seen in the cover art here:  but yeah it does kind of look like a signature even though it isn't. -M |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 7, 2020 6:40:35 GMT -5
I've never personally dealt with CGC in any way... either to grade a book I had or to buy a graded book. I considered it when I had a Walking Dead #1 to sell, but I decided it wasn't worth the risk... the value difference between 9.0 to 9.2 to 9.6 or 9.8 is enormous in some cases, and I haven't got a clue what that standard is, or if a slight issue packing might be a factor, so I just sold it without and was happy with the price.
I get the value of professional grading for people who care about such things, but it isn't something I care about.
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