shaxper
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Post by shaxper on Jul 30, 2020 12:31:26 GMT -5
I have long felt that, by necessity, DC started the Bronze Age earlier than Marvel. It can be hard to pin down because DC had editorial feifdoms, so the date is different for different titles. But things started looking and feeling different at DC once Infantino became art director for the whole line. Neal Adams' Deadman started in 1967; to me that's a Bronze book in look and feel, and concept. I think Conan #1 is about right for Marvel though. While the idea of an age completely beginning or ending on a specific date is, of course, an artificial construct, I'd argue that Marvel MOST begins to feel like Bronze Aged Marvel with the Avengers Kree Skrull War in 1971. Of course, the commonality with your pick and mine is Roy Thomas. And when he becomes Editor in 1972, Marvel REALLY starts to feel like Bronze Age Marvel. And, for DC, it's Green Lantern #76 for me, and the commonality between my choice and yours is Neal Adams. Suffice to say, some DC books continued to feel very Silver Age for years afterward, but Adams was pushing a more modern energy into the company. |
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Post by tarkintino on Jul 30, 2020 12:45:18 GMT -5
Detective Comics #38 - first appearance and origin of Robin, the most significant and influential kid (or teen) sidekick in the medium's history.
All-Star Comics #3 - first appearance of the Justice Society of America, the first superhero team creating a sub-genre that has survived every trend or change in the industry.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 30, 2020 12:51:46 GMT -5
I have long felt that, by necessity, DC started the Bronze Age earlier than Marvel. It can be hard to pin down because DC had editorial feifdoms, so the date is different for different titles. But things started looking and feeling different at DC once Infantino became art director for the whole line. Neal Adams' Deadman started in 1967; to me that's a Bronze book in look and feel, and concept. I think Conan #1 is about right for Marvel though. While the idea of an age completely beginning or ending on a specific date is, of course, an artificial construct, I'd argue that Marvel MOST begins to feel like Bronze Aged Marvel with the Avengers Kree Skrull War in 1971. Of course, the commonality with your pick and mine is Roy Thomas. And when he becomes Editor in 1972, Marvel REALLY starts to feel like Bronze Age Marvel.That's a very valid point. New EiC Roy Thomas, replacing the head honcho who had overseen the initial development of the Mighty Marvel Age of comics, heralded a very factual transition: that of Marvel being directed not by its original architects (be they Stan, Jack, Steve or whoever was there at the beginning), but by a second generation. I wonder if such a clear-cut point can also be identified for the moment where Marvel comics fans (kids who had grown up on those comics) became Marvel editors. |
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Post by tarkintino on Jul 30, 2020 15:16:15 GMT -5
While the idea of an age completely beginning or ending on a specific date is, of course, an artificial construct, I'd argue that Marvel MOST begins to feel like Bronze Aged Marvel with the Avengers Kree Skrull War in 1971. Of course, the commonality with your pick and mine is Roy Thomas. And when he becomes Editor in 1972, Marvel REALLY starts to feel like Bronze Age Marvel.That's a very valid point. New EiC Roy Thomas, replacing the head honcho who had overseen the initial development of the Mighty Marvel Age of comics, heralded a very factual transition: that of Marvel being directed not by its original architects (be they Stan, Jack, Steve or whoever was there at the beginning), but by a second generation. I wonder if such a clear-cut point can also be identified for the moment where Marvel comics fans (kids who had grown up on those comics) became Marvel editors. But many have offered the opinion that Bronze Age Marvel launched earlier than say, Thomas' move to EIC with The Amazing Spider-Man drug issues (#96-98) published between May - July of 1971. Using their best title for a message of that magnitude was a breakthrough for the company and firmly dropped their fantasy into the middle of a dark reality that readers were seeing on their own streets. |
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