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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2022 19:04:05 GMT -5
tarkintinoWe're not the only ones who noticed, it's gotten a lot of discussion on the Mego forums I am a part of as well, with amore than a couple of long threads on the matter. -M
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Post by whakojacko on Aug 15, 2022 20:39:41 GMT -5
Holy crap I forgot I was going to post this last week. My girlfriend ordered me a set from Entertainment Earth and they all arrived a few days ago!
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Post by shaxper on Aug 16, 2022 6:51:37 GMT -5
Holy crap I forgot I was going to post this last week. My girlfriend ordered me a set from Entertainment Earth and they all arrived a few days ago! Got mine from Amazon two days ago and haven't had time to upload the pic. I never get tired of these guys!
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Post by shaxper on Aug 18, 2022 22:24:18 GMT -5
My sentinels arrived today. Or (more accurately) my sentinels arrived while I was at work, so Amber got to them first and sent me these pics:
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Post by Jesse on Aug 20, 2022 13:41:35 GMT -5
Another Amazing find today! Just two more figures on my wish list...Thor and Black Costume Spidey.
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Post by whakojacko on Aug 20, 2022 18:47:30 GMT -5
My sentinels arrived today. Or (more accurately) my sentinels arrived while I was at work, so Amber got to them first and sent me these pics: The S&Mtinels…
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Post by shaxper on Aug 20, 2022 23:48:19 GMT -5
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 28, 2022 21:01:17 GMT -5
My wife tries really hard... last two trips she made to target she bought the guys they had when I was at work and not available for her to text to ask if I had them... they were all first series ones I got long ago, but she tries I decided to follow Shax's example and ordered Nova, Firestar and Moon Knight from Amazon.. I REALLY want those ones, and seems like the chances I'll see them in the wild are slim.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2022 15:33:12 GMT -5
Finally found these in the wild today at Wallyworld... I know I am a wave behind on these, but I refuse to pay more than retail for them and I prefer to buy them in person, so, so far except for the ones I received as part of the Secret Santa, I've only gotten these from brick and mortar retailers. -M
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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 13, 2022 20:06:40 GMT -5
wow, nice! I haven't found any in the wild since the first 2 series... despite lots of trying.
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Post by shaxper on Sept 15, 2022 18:08:02 GMT -5
wow, nice! I haven't found any in the wild since the first 2 series... despite lots of trying. Toy distribution these days is a total joke. I miss the thrill of buying in person, but it just doesn't seem to make sense anymore when you are guaranteed to get them (and for less money) thru Amazon, and then you don't need to spend gas to drive there and won't be tempted to make other purchases while there either for a toy that almost certainly won't end up being on the peg anyway. It's frankly weird that big business has figured out its target demographic of 30-50 something middle class males with spending money want toys, and yet little to nothing has been done to improve distribution logistics.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2022 18:14:11 GMT -5
wow, nice! I haven't found any in the wild since the first 2 series... despite lots of trying. Toy distribution these days is a total joke. I miss the thrill of buying in person, but it just doesn't seem to make sense anymore when you are guaranteed to get them (and for less money) thru Amazon, and then you don't need to spend gas to drive there and won't be tempted to make other purchases while there either for a toy that almost certainly won't end up being on the peg anyway. It's frankly weird that big business has figured out its target demographic of 30-50 something middle class males with spending money want toys, and yet little to nothing has been done to improve distribution logistics. Part of the problem at Walmart is they don't put out new waves until the old wave sells out, so as long as there are a couple of peg warmers from a previous wave, the stocking program doesn't tell the stock clerks to put out the new wave. It's like that for all lines, not just the retro legends line there. That's not a Hasbro problem, it's a Walmart issue. -M
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Post by shaxper on Sept 15, 2022 18:17:38 GMT -5
Toy distribution these days is a total joke. I miss the thrill of buying in person, but it just doesn't seem to make sense anymore when you are guaranteed to get them (and for less money) thru Amazon, and then you don't need to spend gas to drive there and won't be tempted to make other purchases while there either for a toy that almost certainly won't end up being on the peg anyway. It's frankly weird that big business has figured out its target demographic of 30-50 something middle class males with spending money want toys, and yet little to nothing has been done to improve distribution logistics. Part of the problem at Walmart is they don't put out new waves until the old wave sells out, so as long as there are a couple of peg warmers from a previous wave, the stocking program doesn't tell the stock clerks to put out the new wave. It's like that for all lines, not just the retro legends line there. That's not a Hasbro problem, it's a Walmart issue. -M It's absolutely a Hasbro problem when Walmart and Target account for most of its sales. Hasbro most certainly has pull in this situation; a toy aisle without Star Wars, Transformers, and G.I. Joe isn't going to draw in many customers. Seems like they should be stepping in and suggesting a different solution -- maybe even do it the same way Coca Cola and Pepsi do, where a Hasbro delivery truck arrives each week with new product, and that driver (working for Hasbro) handles inventory and stock instead of the store itself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2022 18:59:19 GMT -5
Except it's a policy that applies to every toy company, even those with more pull and sales than Hasbro. like Lego who also cannot influence Walmart's policy and have to suffer with it. Walmart had a kneejerk reaction to toy aisle overstocks that occurred in the early 2000s, when overstocked toy aisles tied up capital and turned away customers, so they made sure that one wave/order completely sold through before more went out. As sales in brick and mortar stores dipped, and toys account for a much smaller percentage of company sales, even during holiday season, Hasbro and others have very little leverage on Walmart, who simply tells them if you don't like our policy, find an alternative brick and mortar retailer. Hasbro needs Walmart much more than Walmart needs Hasbro. Lego and Barbie would be enough to carry a Walmart Toy Department and they wouldn't blink about not having Transformers (which currently gets about 6 pegs in the current Walmart) G.I. Joe (4 pegs) or Star Wars 10-12 pegs. Meanwhile Lego and Barbie have whole aisles devoted to their product, so why would Walmart give Hasbro consideration they are not willing to give Lego or Mattel (Barbie)? Those Hasbro brands are well past their prime and do not have the cachet they had a decade ago, and are lucky they get the peg space they do from Walmart. There are more toy options that appeal to the public for retailers to stock than there are retailers for you companies to sell to, so the leverage is with the retailers, not the producers or distributors.
Walmart give more consideration to toy producers with toys that have mass appeal and sell as toys than they do those that sell collectibles as toys. More and more those collectible toys are relegated to the collectibles section in the electronics department and their peg and shelf space given to toys with broader appeal or the number of toy aisles shrunk and more aisles given to products that move in more volume that toys, especially Hasbro toys do. The day that Transformers, G.I. Joe and Star Wars toys are must haves in a toy department are long gone. In fact, you can get cheap versions of most of those with the brand logo on them at Family Dollar so the more expensive ones at Walmart are even in less demand to kids and parents who might actually play with them.
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Post by shaxper on Sept 15, 2022 20:55:04 GMT -5
Except it's a policy that applies to every toy company, even those with more pull and sales than Hasbro. like Lego who also cannot influence Walmart's policy and have to suffer with it. Walmart had a kneejerk reaction to toy aisle overstocks that occurred in the early 2000s, when overstocked toy aisles tied up capital and turned away customers, so they made sure that one wave/order completely sold through before more went out. As sales in brick and mortar stores dipped, and toys account for a much smaller percentage of company sales, even during holiday season, Hasbro and others have very little leverage on Walmart, who simply tells them if you don't like our policy, find an alternative brick and mortar retailer. Hasbro needs Walmart much more than Walmart needs Hasbro. Lego and Barbie would be enough to carry a Walmart Toy Department and they wouldn't blink about not having Transformers (which currently gets about 6 pegs in the current Walmart) G.I. Joe (4 pegs) or Star Wars 10-12 pegs. Meanwhile Lego and Barbie have whole aisles devoted to their product, so why would Walmart give Hasbro consideration they are not willing to give Lego or Mattel (Barbie)? Those Hasbro brands are well past their prime and do not have the cachet they had a decade ago, and are lucky they get the peg space they do from Walmart. There are more toy options that appeal to the public for retailers to stock than there are retailers for you companies to sell to, so the leverage is with the retailers, not the producers or distributors. Walmart give more consideration to toy producers with toys that have mass appeal and sell as toys than they do those that sell collectibles as toys. More and more those collectible toys are relegated to the collectibles section in the electronics department and their peg and shelf space given to toys with broader appeal or the number of toy aisles shrunk and more aisles given to products that move in more volume that toys, especially Hasbro toys do. The day that Transformers, G.I. Joe and Star Wars toys are must haves in a toy department are long gone. In fact, you can get cheap versions of most of those with the brand logo on them at Family Dollar so the more expensive ones at Walmart are even in less demand to kids and parents who might actually play with them. -M A very sound explanation, mrp. Thanks. However, it sounds like the market may be ripe for a new chain that can guarantee lucrative exclusives with these toy companies in desperate need of better platforms. The value in these toys, beyond net profit, is their ability to bring in adult collectors, rife with cash, who will purchase other items while in the store. Essentially, Walmart and Target are rewarded for NOT having the toy in stock, because then the adult collector has to come back again. If Costco, or Aldee, or some other major chain that has the cash for expansion were to court these toy brands, they could really upset the market and capitalize on the potential to lure affluent new customers into their stores repeatedly.
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