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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 9, 2021 13:45:24 GMT -5
I talked about most of my misses when I did my daily recaps. So that group included, Frank Miller, Kurt Busiek, James Robinson, Jason Aaron, Archie Goodwin, Max Allan Collins and Len Wein. I am still mad at myself that I didn't think of Michael Fleisher because he might well have made my list. Others that nobody mentioned (that I remember). Larry Siegel, Al Jaffee and Arnie Kogan. I wasn't lying when I said I could do a list with just Mad writers. I felt bad leaving all three off, but I felt I had to do so. Juan Diaz Canales - Man I love Blacksad. I still feel this was a hard cut. Rick Veitch - Veitch's Swamp Thing was almost as good Moore's and was better than Moore's last year. A few writer/artists that did a fair bit of just writing got consideration, and would have made a comprehensive list...Howard Chaykin, Tim Truman and Mike Grell. One who will be on the list without a shadow of a doubt as soon as he qualifies is Mark Russell. I listed him, remember? You found that page from "Fantastecch Voyage" to make the post complete.
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Post by coke & comics on Jan 9, 2021 13:56:40 GMT -5
I noted in the statistics thread that I was the only person to choose DeMatteis, so glad to see him getting some acknowledgement over here at least. But still nobody's mentioning Milligan. As for near misses, I got very far into preparing with Paul Jenkins in the #12 spot. I'd even written out quotes for him. I'll post them below. I wrote out 3, but was planning to pick only one of the Spider-Man's and find another. But then somehow, unbidden, images of Civil War: The Return entered my head. I recalled throwing it across the room. Generally, I prefer to judge writers by their best. But Jenkins is a writer who pays the bills. As much as I love his Inhumans or Hulk, there's also a pile of work I just find frustrating to read, and figured I could find a writer who had upset me less for that coveted #12 spot, and I settled on Paul Dini. Your name is Bob Reynolds. You're a private citizen. You have this weird notion that you might once have been somebody important-- a powerful being named the Sentry. You're thirty pounds overweight. You prefer cartoons over CNN. And you drink too much. Hey, but who cares, right? I mean, who gets to decide what's real and what's not anymore? --"The Unicorn", The Sentry #2, Marvel, 2000 Peter Parker: But to me, it's never been about winning. Baseball's far bigger than just a good result. Mind you, being a Mets fan, I would say that. What d'you say, Uncle Ben? Maybe this year? --"Maybe Next Year", Peter Parker Spider-Man #33, Marvel, 2001 Spider-Man: You don't need me anymore. From now on, you're a big man, okay? Lafronce: Okay. Spider-Man: And big men don't hug each other when they part ways. Lafronce: They don't. Spider-Man: Nope. They shake hands. --"Heroes Don't Cry", Peter Parker Spiderman #35, Marvel, 2001 (While the above is my favorite Jenkins scene, I wasn't sure it worked when removed from the context of the images, which was what I was striving for with my quotes, to focus on the scripting itself.)
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Post by coke & comics on Jan 9, 2021 14:05:58 GMT -5
Next strongest contenders were Jon Ostrander (Kents, Blaze of Glory, Spectre) and Joe Kelly (X-Men, Deadpool, I Kill Giants)
Followed by Thomas and Englehart.
Brian Bendis is a writer I have a complicated relationship with. He's written so much work that I love, and he successfully got me to stop reading Avengers. I just don't know what to do with that. There is no writer whose work I love and hate as much as his. I wish he'd stop writing superheroes and put out my work like Scarlet, but I get where the money is.
Jonathan Hickman and Brian Vaughn would have fared better if I could include more recent work. Vaughn was a strong contender based on his "classic" work anyway, and would have been a shoe-in less the classic restriction. Remove the "classic" rule and there'd be all kinds of other contenders: Slott, Remender, Aaron, Ewing, Kindt, Lemire...
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Post by berkley on Jan 9, 2021 23:06:57 GMT -5
some Near misses:
Jodorowsky - left him off my list mainly becase I've read only one of his works in full - though that's a great one: The Incal. Everything else has been a book here, a story there, not enough to judge those works fairly.
Kurtzman - again, I only know the MAD stuff - though that was almost enough on its own for me to include him, especially since I've been reading the early issues of MAD the last year or so.
Gerry Finlay-Day - I see a trend: I've read only Rogue Trooper, which I liked a lot but was a bit one-note; not enough on its own for me to include him, in the end.
Charlier - have only just started getting to know this writer, through an early-ish volume (no. 3) of Blueberry. My over all impression was very positive, but one volume isn't much to go by - and it's hard to separate the beautiful Moebius artwork from the writing.
Marv Wolfman - probably got the most serious consideration of anyone on my near misses list: I rate Tomb of Dracula with the best of 70sMarvel, which means up there with favourites like Moench's MoKF, Englehart'sDr. Strange, Gerber's HtD, etc. But what kept him off is that I have read a lot of his other work and nothing else Wolfman has done comes close to ToD, in my view. Night Force might have had a chance but we'll never know, as it was cancelled so quickly. His superhero work was usually pretty solid, and often better than just solid, but for me never reached the level of ToD or works by other writers on my final list of 12. And some of it was pretty ordinary, to my mind - Nova, for example, felt nostalgia-driven and not in a way I found attractive personally. Still, ToD was almost enough all by itself, and on another day, in a different mood, I might put Wolfman in there - where he surely would have been had I made this list around 1975-1978.
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Post by DubipR on Jan 12, 2021 11:47:58 GMT -5
Last to go off my list:
Greg Rucka: As much as I love his work, Brubaker's mystery work covered that section. Brian Wood Archie Goodwin: I love his stuff but not enough to be on here. Denny O'Neill- see Archie Goodwin. Mark Evanier.
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