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Post by brutalis on Jan 24, 2021 19:44:01 GMT -5
Came upon me in a flash of serendipity that we have a Classic Movie discussion thread to talk about recently viewed gems. There are several specific threads about beloved series like Star Trek, Babylon 5, Batman the Prisoner and such. But there are LOTS of various series and genres we all grew up with and they may be great or not so great, yet still as a whole deserve their moment of recognition in our community.
Those who know me well here from over the last few years know my adoration for the classic Westerns but I love many others of the small screen boob tube. Here is a place to remember and keep those shows of our youths alive. From science fiction, to sitcom/comedies, to action/adventure, westerns, war, mysteries, crime/detective and everything inbetween. Love or hate em, but remember them and discuss them all right here.
Going to begin with television's Tarzan as it gave us Ron Ely in the lion cloth. This was a Tarzan portraying ERB's Lord of the Jungle for a new generation. Many grew up seeing Weissmuller at the movies and lots of us sae these as Saturday viewing upon our television. Stepping away from the lite almost campy black and white fun, we now get a more realistic intelligently written contemporary show. Part jungle action/adventure while part social commentary it gives us a Tarzan where Ely embodies a true hero of the sort fighting injustice amidst the primitive jungle coming into itself as its borders opened up to exploration and exploitation.
The television show is just as classic as any of the movies and in many ways even better. Plenty of famous faces to be seen throughout the show from movie and television stars. Lots of jungle beasts to be amazed or terrified at. Exotic live location filming combines with set pieces showing jungle splendor superior to any of the prior movies. And a lithe, muscular sun bronzed (handy for Ely's future role wink wink) nearly nude hero for men to admire and women to fancy.
Thanks to Heroes & Icons the television station, I managed to record ALL of this series as they aired it early Saturday mornings. Now I can enjoy this fun series once more watching Ron Ely swinging through the jungle yelling his call to any willing to listen. I truly enjoy coming in from a day of work to unwind with a couple of these classic episodes before bed.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 24, 2021 21:14:38 GMT -5
I missed the original network run; but, my local station used to run it on Saturday afternoons. I really, really wanted to like it, and did like many episodes; but, I always expected bigger things, more epic stories. That was the problem of a tv series vs movies. Prior to them running that, I had seen a couple of Weismullers and I believe the Filmation cartoon was running.
We also used to get the Jungle Jim tv show, very early in the morning (like 6:00 am, right after the station sign-on), which I wanted to enjoy, but found kind of boring. Tarzan usually had enough to keep me interested, even with some of the more cliched stories or repeated plots; but not so much Jungle Jim.
I always liked Ely in the role and would have liked to have seen him take a crack at the movies; but, it wasn't to be. Also enjoyed Manuel Padilla, who would pop up later, in Happy Days and American Graffiti.
Some years later, Ely starred in a tv movie/series pilot, called The SEAL, that I only ever saw broadcast once, and other than an IMDB listing with little to no information, have never seen a single word written about it. Ely plays an ex-Navy SEAL, who operates as some kind of private eye or government agent (like I said, saw it once and never again) and it was the first time I had ever heard of the SEALs. I enjoyed the movie, but nothing ever came of it. It got me look for info on the teams, which wasn't east to find, until the Gulf War era, as they liked to stay out of the media, until then, even though they put on a public demonstration every 4th of July, at the Coronado Yacht Club, in Coronado, CA.
Of course, Ely made a great Doc Savage, though the film went to far into camp for me to really enjoy it (also thought they didn't really differentiate the assistants very well).
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Post by berkley on Jan 24, 2021 21:14:52 GMT -5
Ely was a physically very impressive guy and looked the part for both Tarzan and Dc Savage. I think I read somewhere that he never worked out with weights, just calisthenics and things like that. I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this here before, but I remember seeing him and Pamela Hensley (Princess Ardala from Buck Rogers) on a Canadian afternoon talk show back in the 70s or 80s: they knew each other and had a good rapport, joking back and forth. Hensley told a funny story about how one time when they were working on a movie together, they walked into a hotel lobby or something and everyone, men and women alike, turned their heads to stare at Ely and no one paid any attention to her (if you remember, she was a highly attractive young actress who looked pretty stunning in Princess Ardala's scanty costumes).
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 25, 2021 22:48:44 GMT -5
I've been watching the first season of Danger Man, aka The Secret Agent, on disc. It's interesting to see some of the guest actors, who went on to bigger things, within a couple of years. The series began in 1960, so this is before all the big ITV adventure shows (The Avengers, The Saint, The Champions, Department S, Jason King, The Professionals, The Protectors, The Persuaders, etc...) and before the Bond film series began. In one episode I saw Donald Pleasance (future Blofeld) and Lois Maxwell (future Moneypenny). In another was future Cathy Gale, Honor Blackman, the first female (regular) co-star on The Avengers. Another episode had Sam Wanamaker and Patrick Troughton, the second Doctor Who. The episodes are much different from the Bond style, with John Drake being more of a thinking man, though he mixes it up frequently, physically. he usually uses his fists, rather than firearms and I haven't seen anything, so far, that is outlandish. Episodes are only a half hour; so, they are tightly plotted and move swiftly, yet never scrimp on character. I've noticed that the writers are all top notch, too, with a lot of people who went on to write for those later ITV show. I'll be interested to compare when I get to the revival of the series, after the Bond craze began and Drake is switched to working for a British spy agency (he's with NATO, in the early show, though often works for a Brit, named Hardy). You can kind of see the basic formula for how all those series were done in terms of establishing exotic locations, introduce the villains, brief the hero, meet people in trouble, cross path with villains, cross swords with villains, happy ending. Also an interesting mix of plots, from setting up the execution of an assassin, exposing corrupt officials in foreign governments, uncovering spy rings, breaking up murder-for-hire syndicates, getting a man falsely accused of espionage out of an embassy, capturing a killer with the aid of a blind woman, rescuing the kidnapped daughter of a millionaire genius, who works in the defense world, locating a slaving operation, bringing out a defector's sister to verify if they are the real person or a plant, and several more imaginative ideas.
Gadgets are mostly nonexistent or related to actual technology. In the episode where he hunts an assassin, he hides a weapon, in sections, in his car, to enter a hostile nation, then retrieves them and assembles it. It was basically a "free rifle," the key components of a rifle, but without the stock and other accessories. What he ends up with is something not terribly different than the free rifle that the Jackal uses, in the film Day of the Jackal (the Edward Fox movie, not that sad remake). That was right up the alley for equipment used in WW2, by the OSS and SOE.
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Post by berkley on Jan 26, 2021 1:33:59 GMT -5
I only ever saw Secret Agent/Danger Man in repeats back in the 90s. From memory, McGoohan's always impressive screen presence carried the show, which was all very Cold War, as you'd expect from the era - unambiguously black and white, good vs evil, from the ones I saw.
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Post by brutalis on Jan 26, 2021 8:03:19 GMT -5
Seen episodes here and there but never sat through as a series from start to finish. I do hope to get around to it at some point and hope one of the classic television stations like Metv or Decades run it, then I could record and watch at my leisure. It has a ding dang dong catchy theme that gets some oldies radio play!
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 26, 2021 12:11:55 GMT -5
Seen episodes here and there but never sat through as a series from start to finish. I do hope to get around to it at some point and hope one of the classic television stations like Metv or Decades run it, then I could record and watch at my leisure. It has a ding dang dong catchy theme that gets some oldies radio play! Well, I'm watching the first series, which wasn't shown in the US and has the original music. The later series were shown here, as The Secret Agent, with the Johnny Rivers theme song. These are A&E discs, so, I'm not sure what they will have, when I get to that point. The original theme is pretty good, too, establishing the mood. Not quite as light and catchy as The Avengers or the Saint, but it fits well.
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Post by brutalis on Feb 6, 2021 16:10:23 GMT -5
Speaking of Tarzan, local HD free TV low end station has popped in/out depending on signal quality. ACE the American Classic Entertainment is running the 2 season Tarzan the Epic Adventures starring Joe Lara. A more fantasy style show of the ape Lord which isn't great by any means but a guilty pleasure to enjoy, even if Lara the wimp had to wear boots. 🙂 it is filmed well and looks spectacular in color with a good use of practical creature effects before CGI became the answer to everything.
Only problem is ACE is so low end they don't run a schedule on their internet page and is new to broadcasting I haven't been able to find them on any internet station listings yet. So it is catch it at odd times on Saturday so far, never at the same time in the last 3 weeks?!?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 16:59:40 GMT -5
In the late 60s Batman, Tarzan & Star Trek were my adventure TV trinity. At the time they were on we had a B&W TV. It was so cool to experience them in color in reruns when we got a color TV a few years later.
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Post by brutalis on Feb 6, 2021 17:41:10 GMT -5
In the late 60s Batman, Tarzan & Star Trek were my adventure TV trinity. At the time they were on we had a B&W TV. It was so cool to experience them in color in reruns when we got a color TV a few years later. That does make for a sweet afternoon when getting home from school. Local station would change it up every 6 months or so as there was a kind of "weekly" schedule starting with Dream of Jeanie, Bewitched, Gilligans Island and Brady Bunch 3p-5p. Then 5p-69 was the adventure portion with 2 episodes Batman then Tarzan then Trek. At 6 months they would stop the current adventure shows and switch to Man from Uncle, the Avengers and Wild Wild West. Great afternoons until primetime when the parents took over our 1 television.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 6, 2021 18:26:59 GMT -5
Well, my early adventure viewing trinity was Jack Webb's Mark VII company shows: Dragnet, Adam-12 and Emergency! Then, it was police shows, like Mod Squad and Mission Impossible (still on the network) and the NBC Mystery Movie wheel.
We got Wild Wild West, The Saint, and Mission Impossible for weekend syndication, but it was a while before I saw Star Trek and I was in junior high before I saw the Batman tv episodes (I had seen part of the movie, once).
I Dream of Jeanie, Bewitched, Brady Buch and Partridge Family was still in prime time and then syndication. Our weekday afternoons had Dark Shadows, followed by stuff like Gilligan's Island, The Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, Please Don't Eat the Daisies, Brady Buch, Bewitched, Partridge Family. Pre-prime time we had Hogan's Heroes and The Lucy Show
Weekday mornings, my local station seemed to favor Cambria, as we had both Space Angel and The New Three Stooges. Then, it was Total Television, as we got Underdog and Tennessee Tuxedo, then Rocky & Bullwinkle and Friends.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 18:32:25 GMT -5
Similar TV viewing. We had one B&W TV until I was in 7th grade. Then we had one color TV. When I was in 12th grade we got cable and I got a 13" B&W TV for my bedroom although that wasn't hooked up to cable. I kept that TV (until OTA TV went digital) to watch baseball games out on our deck.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 19:06:44 GMT -5
I also miss Sat morning cartoons and Sun afternoon Abbott & Costello movies with the 3 Stooges for a 3 HR block.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 19:16:27 GMT -5
Just looked up Ron Ely. He has aged well. Unfortunately his family suffered a major tragedy in 2019.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 6, 2021 19:24:46 GMT -5
I also miss Sat morning cartoons and Sun afternoon Abbott & Costello movies with the 3 Stooges for a 3 HR block. Saturday morning cartoons were a ritual, in our house. My brother, sister and I all got up before the station sign-on and asked our dad (on the one day he could sleep in, since he was a school teacher) if it was time for cartoons and he would groan "no." We would go down to the basement (where our tv was set up, in a sort of family room area) and play our Disney records at 78 rpm, instead of 33 1/3 (Bibbedy-Bobbedy-Boo is awesome at 78) and wait for the station sign-on, with the test pattern on the screen and the sound turned down. Then, we'd see the picture change and it would be Looney tunes and we were set for the morning. My dad would eventually get up and make us pancakes and let us eat breakfast in front of the tv. he'd join in, for Looney Tunes and a few things, like Dastardly and Muttley and Their Flying Machines. We'd watch until American bandstand, then go our separate ways after that. The rest of the day, if tv was involved, was things like Mission impossible, the Wild Wild West, The Saint or a movie; or, ABC's Wide World of Sports. Saturday evening would start with Hee-Haw, then prime time shows. Sundays were church and about the only early offering we got was Davy and Goliath, though CBS had some Sunday morning cartoons, like Mr Magoo, My Favorite Martian and 3 Robonic Stooges/Skatebirds. Afternoons were either movies or ABC sports, like The American Sportsman. Then, it was Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom, followed by The Wonderful World of Disney, then whatever the Sunday shows or movies were (NBC Mystery Movie bloc, Battlestar Galactica, other shows). In the later 70s, there was pro wrestling on Saturday or Sunday, especially by the ealry 80s, with the Poffo family's International Championship Wrestling sow, featuring "Macho Man" Randy Savage. That was the first sustained pro wrestling we had, after short stints with the WWA, from Indianapolis (only when they promoted shows in Springfield). In the summer of 1982, we got cable (it was newly offered in my small home town) and that changed everything, as we now had WTBS and WGN, USA, and Cinemax (by mistake, which lasted about a year, without being billed). The rest of what we had consisted of Peoria network affiliates (along with our existing affiliates from Decatur, Springfield and Champaign) and an independent station (which eventually became the Fox affiliate). We also had MTV, when they were about one year old and had very few sponsors for commercials.
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