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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 6, 2022 21:30:16 GMT -5
A Touch of Frost, starring David Jason as Detective Inspector William “Jack” Frost, debuted on ITV 30 years ago today. It ran for fifteen seasons, until 2010. Based on books written by R. D. Wingfield (1928-2007), the series featured the pragmatic thief-taker DI Frost often clashing with his bureaucratic, PR-obsessed boss, Superintendent Mullett (Bruce Alexander); Frost had little time for PR, paperwork and bureaucracy, which often brought him into conflict with Frost, but Mullett knew that Frost was a good thief-taker who could be relied upon to get results. There were a rotating cast of supporting officers, although some were there for the duration, such as DS George Toolan (John Lyons) and PC Ernie Trigg (Arthur White), the collator/archivist. David Jason was still playing DI Frost in his late sixties, but announced he’d retire from the role due to the fact that most detectives would be retired by 60. In an interview with a broadsheet, Jason said, “You wouldn't want me to play Frost in a wheelchair, would you?...Frost is getting a little long in the tooth. I still enjoy doing it, and it's a great part, but I just think he's got to retire. It'll be a sad day." It was good while it lasted. Frost was a good character (with a poor diet, he seemed to live on canteen food) - and very humorous. Out of all the TV detectives I’ve watched, he appeared to have the most disdain for paperwork. One TV critic moaned that Frost would have been promoted after so many years on the job, but maybe some are happy in middle ranks - and I doubt someone who hated paperwork would want to be a superintendent or chief constable where there’d be even more paperwork. Great show. It was established that Frost had friends in high places who let it slide that he was promoted higher, because he was so good at what he did. In my experience, that isn't that far fetched, especially in a specialty field like murder investigation. Loved the series and have watched it all the way through a couple of times. Arthur White is also David Jason's brother, so their scenes together were always fun. It was also a great series for catching good actors from other series and movies. When I first watched it, he picked up the young hotshot detective, Clive Barnard, played by Matt Bardock. I had previously seen him in Prime Suspect 2, where he is a murderer and pornographer; so, seeing him as a cop was a bit of a turn. Similarly, my first glimpse of Robert Glenister was in Prime Suspect 4, as a pedophile who is suspected of a kidnap and murder of a baby. So, again, weird to see him as a cop, even a troubled one like he played. It was also fun to listen to Frost and realize he was also Danger Mouse (and Del Boy; but, I have only seen a couple of episodes of Only Fools and Horses).
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Post by berkley on Dec 6, 2022 21:57:31 GMT -5
I might look at that Frost show myself next time I'm watching some early '90s stuff. Any other UK detectives recommended from around that time? There's Cracker and the one with Jimmy Nail that I might try. I watched the first episode of Inspector Morse a while back so I might continue with those, although the earlier years were from the late 1980s. I've seen Prime Suspect all the way through, so I won't re-watch that one yet.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2022 4:36:59 GMT -5
I’d certainly recommend Taggart, and for something different, Cadfael.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 7, 2022 11:58:37 GMT -5
Yeah Cadfael is good stuff, in a Medieval setting. I have watched and enjoyed Rebus and Dalziel and Pascoe. Lovejoy is fun. Hetty Wainthropp, with Patricia Routledge, is pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2022 18:20:51 GMT -5
Incidentally, when I watch old UK police dramas, I smile when I think about how archivists/collators are probably not a thing in the technological era.
I understand it’s more efficient to have everything on computer, but it must have been satisfying for an archivist/collator to have such a job.
Oh, I’d also recommend UK cop drama The Bill, which ran from 1984 to 2010 (earlier years are better, the later era is too “soap opera”). Set in London, it features a mixture of uniformed and CID stories.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2022 6:51:43 GMT -5
Saw this via Facebook: So many US promos from that time period are fun but misleading. That poster is a promo for the Hulk episode “The Beast Within”. Firstly, that appears to be a real gorilla (or as close as) on that poster, but the one in the episode looks very different, obviously being a man in a gorilla suit: This is from the episode: Also, the Hulk did not meet his match in that episode. This is the Hulk episode I’ve watched the most. The Hulk dominates for 99% of the fight, and is much stronger than the gorilla.
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 8, 2022 8:43:31 GMT -5
The Hulk dominates for 99% of the fight, and is much stronger than the gorilla. Well, at least the episode was scientifically accurate.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 8, 2022 22:32:19 GMT -5
I thought he met his match when he met that deaf bodybuilder, played by Lou Ferrigno...
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Post by Batflunkie on Dec 12, 2022 18:15:01 GMT -5
Got my hands on three of the four SCTV Box Sets today, very happy. Loved this stuff in my youth, still incredibly funny
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 13, 2022 0:07:10 GMT -5
Got my hands on three of the four SCTV Box Sets today, very happy. Loved this stuff in my youth, still incredibly funny I've got everything from the beginning through the NBC years and revisit it periodically. I first caught it when they hit NBC, whichw as a welcome change to the lackluster Saturday Night Live. It clicked from the beginning, with much better writing and acting, and those great characters, like Johnny LaRue, Guy Caballero, Edith Priickley, the McKenzie Brothers, Sid Dithers, Harvey K-Tel, Lou Jaffe, Earl Camembert, Floyd Robertson/Count Floyd, Dr Tongue and Woody Tobias Jr, Sammy Maudlin, Bobby Bittman, Lola Heatherton, Lorna Minelli, the Juul Haallmeyer Dancers, Dusty Towne, the Schmenge Brothers, etc, etc... Loved everything, from Polynesian Town, to The Days of the Week, the Great White North, Monster Chiller Horror Theater, The Sammy Maudlin Show, Pre-Teen World, and so on. Also, when they had to include musical guests for NBC, I enjoyed that they incorporated them into sketches and not just have them perform their musical numbers. seeing the Tubes and the Plasmatics on the Fishin Musician, or the Boom Town Rats in a parody of To Sir With Love, or Hall & Oates in "Chariots of Eggs," was fantastic. Oh, and Vic Hedges saved my life, back in '78.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 13, 2022 0:11:32 GMT -5
Battle of the PBS Stars.....
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Post by Batflunkie on Dec 13, 2022 10:07:05 GMT -5
codystarbuck, I think we've both posted more than enough of SCTV in the Random Videos Thread (least we forget about your own SCTV thread that you made) Segments that still make me laugh like crazy are Perry Como: Still Alive and Stairways To Heaven Also Dave Thomas has the best announcer voice
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 27, 2022 14:06:09 GMT -5
If you were a kid in the 70s, you may recall that the holidays meant cartoons. Not just the Peanuts specials or The Grinch; but, also, literary adaptations. CBS used to feature their Famous Classic Tales, with adaptations of different literary works, starting with Tales of Washington Irving. The animation was done by Australian studio Air Programs International (API), until 1972, when API was purchased by Hanna-Barbera, who outsourced much of their production to them, including continuing to do the classic tales work. Alex Toth has written about going to Australia to work with them and get them into the H-B style of production, for network television. Quite a lot of Jules Verne was adapted, including Journey to the Center of the Earth, From the Earth to the Moon, Master of the World, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Mysterious Island, Five Weeks in a Balloon, and Off on a Comet. One of the cartoons I distinctly remembered I finally found on Youtube: their adaptation of Sir Walter Scott's Ivanhoe, which introduced me to the story, which is one of my favorite romantic adventure tales.... Later, another Australian animation house, Burbank Films, did a series of classic tales, covering much of the same territory. Many of these were later available, for discount prices, at various retailers, including Walmart and K-Mart. The releases often had a mixture of Burbank and API versions. For years, the only Ivanhoe I could find was the 1986 Burbank Films version, which I knew wasn't the version I saw in the 70s. I just watched the API one, after finding it, last night. I came across this playlist, on youtube, which has several of the API works. You can also, with a bit of searching, find some of the others, like the excellent Last of the Mohicans and the Sherlock Holmes adaptations they did, in the H-B ownership years. Meanwhile, a recent Secret Galaxy Youtube feature on Rankin-Bass reminded me (since they glossed over it) of R-B's competing package, Festival of Family Classics. This ran from 1972-1973, featuring the animation of Japanese studios Mushi Production (started by Osamu Tezuka) and Topcraft (which included Hayao Miyazaki, before he formed Studio Ghibli, after Topcraft's bankruptcy), who produced animated works for R-B, for Saturday morning, such as The Jackson 5, The Osmonds and Kid Power (based on the Wee Pals comic strip). Some of those can also be found on Youtube. ABC used to show some of their Saturday morning stuff, at Thanksgiving and Christmas, including the Super Friends and Electra Woman and Dyna Girl. API's A Christmas Carol, produced in 1969, used to appear in syndication, for many years. I saw it after the masterful Chuck Jones 1971 version (with Alistair Sim and Michael Horden reprising their roles, from the 1951 version) and it wasn't the same league; but still pretty good. Ron Haddick, who voices Scrooge, would do the same for a 1982 version, by Burbank Films (Burbank repeated a lot of API's productions). The API version also appeared as part of the Famous Classic Tales series. We lived in an area where it was hard to tune in CBS, unless you had an external antenna (which we didn't) and I only got to see these if we were at relatives, for the holidays. I distinctly remember seeing both Ivanhoe and The Adventures of Sinbad, while visiting my Dad's Aunt Beatriz (we just called her Auntie), for Thanksgiving. Those were always great visits. They lived in Ogden, IL, east of Champaign-Urbana (where the Univ of Illinois is), in a little house that I think was circa the 1930s. My Dad's Uncle Clemmons collected glass and ceramic insulators from power lines and had this big collection of them, including two very large ceramic ones, which were a decorative feature on the sidewalk up to their front door. Their bathroom had sliding doors and we used to play with them, like it was an elevator. Auntie was my grandmother's sister, who defied her father and ran off to elope with Uncle Clemmons, and was the sweetest person you could ever know. She passed away when I was in college and I accompanied my Dad to visit her, at a nursing home in Champaign at least once, before her death. The house is long gone and I have no idea what happened tot he glass insulators. The ceramic ones would have been worth some money.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2022 14:53:27 GMT -5
When I was young, I’d hear the word “solicitor” or “lawyer” in TV shows. In real life, if someone needed legal advice, they’d often say, “I’m seeing a solicitor next week.” Of course, the word “barrister” (“advocate” in Scotland) was used; if I have it right, barristers aren’t hired directly by the public, right?
But when I watch some UK TV shows, folks, such as one in a recent soap opera, talk about hiring a “brief” for some legal matter or other. It’s obviously a legitimate word, but in real life, I have *never* heard anyone talk about ‘hiring a brief’ or ‘seeing a brief over a legal matter’. Today I don’t even hear the word solicitor, most say lawyer. I’m not saying these TV shows are wrong - soap operas often use the word - but it’s funny that I have never heard “brief” in real life. To me, “brief” is a verb, so a solicitor would brief a barrister over a case, but it’s peculiar how it seems to be the word used in a lot of UK TV shows.
Oh well, I’m probably ignorant about something or other…
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 29, 2022 21:00:15 GMT -5
When I was young, I’d hear the word “solicitor” or “lawyer” in TV shows. In real life, if someone needed legal advice, they’d often say, “I’m seeing a solicitor next week.” Of course, the word “barrister” (“advocate” in Scotland) was used; if I have it right, barristers aren’t hired directly by the public, right? But when I watch some UK TV shows, folks, such as one in a recent soap opera, talk about hiring a “brief” for some legal matter or other. It’s obviously a legitimate word, but in real life, I have *never* heard anyone talk about ‘hiring a brief’ or ‘seeing a brief over a legal matter’. Today I don’t even hear the word solicitor, most say lawyer. I’m not saying these TV shows are wrong - soap operas often use the word - but it’s funny that I have never heard “brief” in real life. To me, “brief” is a verb, so a solicitor would brief a barrister over a case, but it’s peculiar how it seems to be the word used in a lot of UK TV shows. Oh well, I’m probably ignorant about something or other… As I always understood it, a "solicitor," handled legal matters, like wills and deeds and contracts; but also basic legal advice. A "barrister," argued a case before a court and a solicitor might work with a barrister on a case involving their client, but would not be the one doing the actual work in the courtroom.
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