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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 30, 2023 22:01:16 GMT -5
Since I finished up watching old school Battlestar Galactica (after watching Millennial BSG), I decided I might as well stick with the world of Glenn Larceny (as James Garner called Glenn Larson) and rewatch some Buck Rogers. I saw the pilot in the theater, back when I was jonesin' for more films like Star Wars (but thankfully missed Star Crash, Shape of Things To Come, and Message From Space). Considering the budget they had they did a pretty good job and it looked good on screen. Fast forward to when it finally premiered on tv and I hated what they had done to it, with the tv edit, with an alternate storyline relating to Buck going to Old Chicago (his choice in the film version, sentenced to exile there in the tv version) and the goofy epilogue, to lead into the series proper; but, the film was awesome. I started to rewatch it last night (the original dvd release only had the theatrical cut), but kept falling asleep, from the beginning (due to a long work day and being old). One thing I did note, before starting to snore, was that title theme song is horribly sung! How do you release a film where the title theme is sung off key? Larson even had a music background! Can't wait to get stuck in, as I always enjoyed the early episodes of the first season, before you started getting Gary Coleman and such and before the retooled second season, where Wilma was reduced to being a stewardess, complete with the uniform to match..... I enjoy seeing Erin Gray's legs as much as the next Leg Man; but, that just looked ridiculous and her role was reduced to match. The first season she looked like a professional soldier (aside from when she was "undercover" in sexy outfits) and she got to be an active participant in the galactic butt-kicking. Back when Buck was on network tv, I advocated for something like this..... ...since Glenn Larson was behind both (and recycled model designs and some effects work). Now, add the little wrinkle that I always had, with this idea: Buck brokers an alliance with the Draconian Empire, after they, too, are attacked by the Cylons (they are humanoid) and you have the combined might of the earth defense Directorate, the stellar armada of the Empire, and the Galactica!
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 8, 2023 20:03:35 GMT -5
I've discovered a probable reason why I always liked the early half of the first season of Buck Rogers way more than the last half and well above the second season:
ALAN BRENNERT!
Brennert is the story editor through about the first half, until he got fed up with dealing with star Gil Gerard and quit (along with Anne Collins, who was story consultant and story editor of one episode). I have a whole thread singing Brennert's praises, for his comic book work. His other writing is just as good, as he wrote the series episodes "The Plot to Kill a City" (a two-parter), "The Cosmic Whiz Kid," "Escape From Wedded Bliss," and "Cruise Ship to the Stars" as well as the episode, "A Dream of Jennifer." After Cosmic Whiz Kid, he is credited as Michael Bryant, for his teleplays and is credited story editor through "Space vampire".
Now, Cosmic Whiz kid is a little hokey, thanks to Gary Coleman; but, it is a fun adventure and it gets into Buck's desire to help another fugitive from the 20th century, especially a child. He and Hieronymous (the boy) are the only ones who understand each others feelings of loss and isolation. Cruise Ship delves a lot into the psychological, as a crook plots to kidnap Miss Cosmos, a genetically perfect woman, to sell her DNA. She laments about being viewed for the physical, while the crook manipulates a woman with a split personality, that manifests as another physical form, one with powers (and big hair).
Escape From Wedded Bliss is the return of Ardala & Kane, from the pilot movie and its a hoot, as Ardala wants Buck for her mate or she blows up New Chicago, with an orbital weapon. Buck has to "take one for the team," in order to sabotage the death device, from the control room. He also learns that the courtship involves fighting Tigerman, in gladiatorial combat and consenting to being collared, with one that can constrict and choke the life out of him, if he doesn't satisfy Ardala. Talk about pressure! Buck defeats Tigerman, but spares his life and this ends up altering things in Buck's favor, later.
The Plot To Kill a city s one of the best episodes, as a group of assassins plots to destroy New Chicago, in revenge for killing one of their own. Buck masquerades as a member, never seen by the others, but is discovered. It has some fun stuff, like James Sloyan, as the conniving Barney (aka Black barney, the pirate, from the comic strip) and Markie Post, as Joella Cameron, a woman who had a fling with the assassin Buck has replaced. Frank Gorshin is the leader of the bunch and Nancy Decarl is a sexy telepathic assassin, in tight leather. Perennial bad guy John Quade is Quince, the rotund telekinetic, with an eye for the ladies (especially in denebian silk) and Anthony James is Valek, the mutant henchman for Gorshin, whose people are deformed as a result of destroying their world, with powerful nuclear weapons. Valek is a tragic figure and Buck ends up befriend the abused member, causing him to aid the Earth when they set an anti-matter reactor to meltdown.
Brennert's scripts have plenty of human touches and easter eggs, especially in spaceport announcements. In Plot To Kill a City, you hear a page for Dr Adam Strange, of Alpha Centauri and one for passengers arriving from Thanagar; and, in A Dream of Jennifer, you hear one for pages for Norrin Radd and Christopher Pike, as well as Katar Hol.
Brennert also wrote for LA Law and the revived Twilight Zone (and Outer Limits) and is highly regarded among his peers, especially Harlan Ellison, who worked with him (and Joe Straczynski) on Twilight Zone.
The same guy who gave us the concept of Batman's scarred body and the wonderful Christmas present of a visit, by a ghost of realities past.
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 8, 2023 21:44:09 GMT -5
I'm not sure which theme song I like more honestly, Battlestar Galactica or Buck Rogers
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2023 9:41:24 GMT -5
Thirty five years ago today, Red Dwarf debuted on BBC Two:
As you all no doubt know, the series follows the exploits of the crew of the mining ship Red Dwarf. Dave Lister (Craig Charles) is in suspended animation as punishment for taking a cat aboard the ship. The ship’s computer, Holly, keeps Lister in suspended animation after a radiation incident kills all of the crew. When he awakens 3 million years later, his only companions are a hologram of his deceased roommate, Rimmer, and Cat, a humanoid who evolved from the descendants of his cat. On that last point, LOL.
(Android Kryten debuted in Season 2)
In my humble opinion, the earlier seasons are stronger than the later ones. Truth be told, I felt that the “joke” wore thin as time went on, and it all seemed rather desperate and unfunny later on. The early seasons were golden, though.
That said, I haven’t seen any of the revival seasons that have aired on Dave since 2009.
If you ask me, Season Two’s “Future Echoes” is the show’s finest moment. The crew begin experiencing “future echoes” after their ship breaches light speed. Among other things, this involves Lister trying to prevent Cat’s tooth being broken, an act that could have major ramifications.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 15, 2023 10:10:41 GMT -5
Thirty five years ago today, Red Dwarf debuted on BBC Two: I liked the first couple season quite a bit, but there were diminishing returns after that. But the first two were definitely gold.
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 15, 2023 14:31:03 GMT -5
Thirty five years ago today, Red Dwarf debuted on BBC Two: I liked the first couple season quite a bit, but there were diminishing returns after that. But the first two were definitely gold. Same, I thought Red Dwarf was better when it was just "the odd couple" in space with vague, religious undertones
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 15, 2023 15:23:48 GMT -5
I liked it all the way through Serie 8; but haven't really seen the revived series. I started to watch Back To Earth,; but, it wasn't really clicking and I turned it off, after about 15-20 minutes.
I think the character stuff was tighter, in the first 3 series, and the show was at its best with both Rob Grant & Doug Naylor writing. However, even when I thought the later series were drooping, there were always really good episodes to lift it back up, and usually more than one or two. I liked Chloe Annett as the alternate universe Kochanski, just as much as I liked Claire Grogan as the original. I enjoyed both Norman Lovett and Hattie Hayrdige as Holly, in their own ways. Each brought something unique to it, though Norman got better material, earlier on. Hattie was stuck with exposition and the odd punchline. I even like Serie 8, where they find the reconstituted Red Dwarf and the original crew and end up in the brig, with the Canaries. There was some good stuff in there (plus I liked Kochanski in uniform...Rowr!)
Comedically, I think it peaked with "Queeg" but there was some terrific stuff in other episodes.
I also felt it was weaker when Ed Bye was not involved, in Series 5 and 6.
And Ace Rimmer?..................................
What a guy!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2023 12:09:46 GMT -5
Thirty five years ago today, London’s Burning debuted on ITV, running for 14 seasons until 2002. (It actually began as a TVM in 1986, with some characters making the transition to the series) Set at the fictional Blackwall Station, it followed the lives and careers of Blue Watch, led by Station Officer Sidney Tate and his deputy, Sub-Officer John Hallam. Each episode involved at least one incident (sometimes two), and we got a glimpse of the firefighters’ private lives, too. It was a good show that seemed to spare no expense on the special effects. And there was often much conflict. In one episode, some builders were trapped under some rubble near the Thames, with the tide dangerously close. Tate’s superior, Assistant Divisional Officer Scase, arrived and ordered the firefighters to stop the rescue until some nearby scaffolding was secured; with the tide dangerously close, Tate disobeyed the order and continued the rescue. There was much tragedy throughout. In one later episode, firefighters rescued some people trapped in a fireworks factory. Their station officer told them to let the factory just burn as all lives had been saved, but his superior arrived and ordered the firefighters to go back into the fireworks factory, so as to preserve property; two of them never came out. Sadly, the last two years were too much “soap opera” for my liking, with some characters disappearing without explanation. Still, in its prime, it was a fantastic show. If you watch it, look out for the late Gareth Thomas as Assistant Chief Fire Officer Bulstrode, a most acerbic character. Here’s a pic (not a high-quality one) of him taking charge at a major fire:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2023 12:44:52 GMT -5
BBC comedy Going Straight, a spin-off of Porridge, debuted 45 years ago today, on BBC One. A single series of six episodes was all we got.
Porridge featured Ronnie Barker as prison inmate Norman Fletcher, in for burglary and theft (assuming what he stated was true, he lied about some things). It ran for 21 episodes over 3 seasons. Going Straight saw Fletcher out of prison and attempting to readjust to life and keep on the straight and narrow.
I have the entirety of Porridge on DVD. I don’t own Going Straight. Quite honestly, I don’t see the point in a spin-off taking a character out of one environment and into an unfamiliar one. I watched Norman Fletcher to see his exploits in prison, not because I wanted to see him outside a prison.
Another UK comedy was called On the Buses, about bus drivers, and that had a spin-off called Don’t Drink the Water, featuring a bus inspector from the original series now living a retired life in Spain. I just don’t see the point.
Anyone here seen any of these shows?
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Post by berkley on Feb 24, 2023 13:16:43 GMT -5
On the Buses was one of my favourite shows as a kid in the early 1970s - we had a lot of UK shows on CBC in Canada at that time. I wasn't aware of the sequel.
Porridge I don't remember watching. I've heard of it but I'm not sure if that means we had it on one of our channels back then or if I've just come to know of it through the internet. I liked The Two Ronnies but have never seen much of Barker's other shows.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 24, 2023 22:37:34 GMT -5
BBC comedy Going Straight, a spin-off of Porridge, debuted 45 years ago today, on BBC One. A single series of six episodes was all we got. Porridge featured Ronnie Barker as prison inmate Norman Fletcher, in for burglary and theft (assuming what he stated was true, he lied about some things). It ran for 21 episodes over 3 seasons. Going Straight saw Fletcher out of prison and attempting to readjust to life and keep on the straight and narrow. I have the entirety of Porridge on DVD. I don’t own Going Straight. Quite honestly, I don’t see the point in a spin-off taking a character out of one environment and into an unfamiliar one. I watched Norman Fletcher to see his exploits in prison, not because I wanted to see him outside a prison. Another UK comedy was called On the Buses, about bus drivers, and that had a spin-off called Don’t Drink the Water, featuring a bus inspector from the original series now living a retired life in Spain. I just don’t see the point. Anyone here seen any of these shows? Neither of those got much airing in the US. Porridge I have heard of, but only seen a few clips. On the Buses only in passing. PBS was the main outlet for British programming, aside from the ITV adventure shows, which made both network and syndication sales. I know these were shown on network tv andsyndication: The Avengers Danger Man (shown as The secret Agent, here) The Prisoner The Saint The Persuaders The Champions Gerry Anderson had several: Fireball XL-5 Thunderbirds Captain Scarlet UFO Space 1999 I'm not sure about Stingray, and I don't think Joe 90 got aired, until latter. Space Precinct was broadcast here. These I would see, regularly, on PBS stations, across the country: Monty Python's Flying Circus Fawlty Towers Doctor in the House Doctor Who Blake's 7 The Good Life (shown as The Good Neighbors) Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister Are You Being Served? As Time Goes By Last of the Summer Wine Butterflies Solo Keeping Up Appearances Mulberry One Foot in The Grave Only Fools and Horses The Thin Blue Line Open All Hours May to December The Piglet Files Ever Decreasing Circles To The Manner Born The Bounder The Brittas Empire Red Dwarf Ripping Yarns My Hero The Vicar of Dibley Dad's Army Bless Me Father Father Ted Fall & Rise of Reginald Perrin When cable entered more homes, you started to see some Britcoms there, too. A&E was like a cable version of a PBS station, and Comedy Central started to bring in some, especially Absolutely Fabulous. Here are some that came in the cable era: Black Adder (and subsequent series, on A&E) The Young Ones (MTV) The Comic Strip Presents (MTV, after the Young Ones were a hit, but only the first series) French & Saunders A Bit of Fry & Laurie (Bravo) Mr Bean (HBO) Butterflies (A&E) Solo (A&E) Last of the Summer Wine (A&E) Yes Minister (A&E) The Faint-hearted Feminist (A&E) Rising Damp (A&E) Father, Dear Father (A&E) Absolutely Fabulous (Comedy Central) Drop the Dead Donkey (Comedy Central) Alas Smith & Jones (A&E, I think, but other channels, as well) Benny Hill Not the 9 O'Clock News had an American version; but, I believe some episodes of the original played here, on cable. Jeeves & Wooster was shown on Masterpiece Theater, which was the main showcase for drama series, going back to the days of Upstairs, Downstairs and Brideshead Revisited. Mystery was launched, in the early 80s, for the detective shows, from Sherlock Holmes up to Prime Suspect. You also got things like The Sharpe series, as things evolved. Just about any major drama or detective series (especially BAFTA winners) was shown on either PBS, A&E or made it to home video. Once home video became a thing, you got those that had been broadcast on PBS or network & syndication; then, as they saw a market for that, you started to get a wider and wider variety, until you started seeing things like Spaced, because of Shaun of the Dead, or Black books, The IT Crowd, etc.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Feb 25, 2023 4:41:19 GMT -5
(...) Another UK comedy was called On the Buses, about bus drivers, and that had a spin-off called Don’t Drink the Water, featuring a bus inspector from the original series now living a retired life in Spain. I just don’t see the point. Anyone here seen any of these shows? On the Buses apparently used to be pretty popular in the former Yugoslavia (as were several other British sitcoms) in the 1980s. The national broadcaster in Croatia aired the show for a while in the late '90s/early '00s or thereabouts; I watched a few episodes and thought it was absolutely dire.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 8:35:25 GMT -5
Here’s one of my favourite moments from Porridge:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 7:21:49 GMT -5
The Nashville Network, more commonly referred to as TNN, was launched 40 years ago today. Some of their programming did make its way over here, and I’m glad it featured wrestling at one time or another.
I didn’t realise that it closed down nearly ten years ago. Seems later than that.
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Post by Batflunkie on Mar 7, 2023 11:10:32 GMT -5
The Nashville Network, more commonly referred to as TNN, was launched 40 years ago today. Some of their programming did make its way over here, and I’m glad it featured wrestling at one time or another. I didn’t realise that it closed down nearly ten years ago. Seems later than that. Oh no, it's still going (at least in the US, not sure abroad though). It got rebranded as Spike TV then the Paramount Network
I had fond memories watching Most Extreme Elimination Challenge, Rollerjam, WWE Velocity and WWE Confidential on it
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