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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 30, 2024 10:23:41 GMT -5
The Avengers are all but one of the Ian Hendry years (or 1 1/3, as the first act or half exists for the first episode, as well as one complete episode). Doctor Who, I think, is missing more from Patrick Troughton than William Hartnell, from what I recall, from listings, especially his first season. It's been ten years since any episodes turned up (from Nigeria); but, there is strong belief that there are copies of most in the hands of private collectors, who are afraid to come forward, for fear of losing them. It's possible that more might come; but, I wouldn't bet an as big a haul as the Nigerian find (and one in Hong Kong, in the 90s, which turned up Tomb of the Cybermen). I believe you’re right about the Troughton Era having more missing episodes. Classic Who is available on BBC iPlayer, but I’ve been able to see very little of the Troughton Era as, quite honestly, I do not have any interest in watching incomplete serials, including those which have been “completed” via audio recordings, telesnaps and animated reconstructions. It’s frustrating because I’d love to see the Yeti storyline in full because it features the debut of Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart (although he was a colonel in that serial). The one I’d really like to see is the First Doctor’s Marco Polo. I might be sounding like a pedant but I don’t want to listen to the surviving audio recordings. I hope that one turns up. Incidentally, episodes of Dad’s Army are missing. I own the available episodes on DVD. Be nice to see the missing episodes found, but I’m not sure the BBC is as committed to finding those as they are for Doctor Who. I've watched the DVD of "The Web of Fear," with reconstruction. It is Lt-Col Lethbridge-Stewart, of the Scots Guards, in that one. He next meets the Doctor in "Invasion," and tells him he has been promoted to Brigadier, and is in charge of UNIT, which is its debut. That one had an animated reconstruction of one episode, but it is a terrific serial, overall. The Brig gets to hang out in a C-130, as a mobile command base, with vehicles driving on and off, before leading the UNIT troops against the Cybermen. |
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Post by driver1980 on Sept 30, 2024 11:06:08 GMT -5
I believe you’re right about the Troughton Era having more missing episodes. Classic Who is available on BBC iPlayer, but I’ve been able to see very little of the Troughton Era as, quite honestly, I do not have any interest in watching incomplete serials, including those which have been “completed” via audio recordings, telesnaps and animated reconstructions. It’s frustrating because I’d love to see the Yeti storyline in full because it features the debut of Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart (although he was a colonel in that serial). The one I’d really like to see is the First Doctor’s Marco Polo. I might be sounding like a pedant but I don’t want to listen to the surviving audio recordings. I hope that one turns up. Incidentally, episodes of Dad’s Army are missing. I own the available episodes on DVD. Be nice to see the missing episodes found, but I’m not sure the BBC is as committed to finding those as they are for Doctor Who. I've watched the DVD of "The Web of Fear," with reconstruction. It is Lt-Col Lethbridge-Stewart, of the Scots Guards, in that one. He next meets the Doctor in "Invasion," and tells him he has been promoted to Brigadier, and is in charge of UNIT, which is its debut. That one had an animated reconstruction of one episode, but it is a terrific serial, overall. The Brig gets to hang out in a C-130, as a mobile command base, with vehicles driving on and off, before leading the UNIT troops against the Cybermen. How would you rate the reconstructions? My mindset is not yet there to enjoy them. |
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Post by Calidore on Sept 30, 2024 19:34:25 GMT -5
I've watched the DVD of "The Web of Fear," with reconstruction. It is Lt-Col Lethbridge-Stewart, of the Scots Guards, in that one. He next meets the Doctor in "Invasion," and tells him he has been promoted to Brigadier, and is in charge of UNIT, which is its debut. That one had an animated reconstruction of one episode, but it is a terrific serial, overall. The Brig gets to hang out in a C-130, as a mobile command base, with vehicles driving on and off, before leading the UNIT troops against the Cybermen. How would you rate the reconstructions? My mindset is not yet there to enjoy them. I did a big watch-through of lots of classic Doctor Who some years ago. The BBC hadn't yet done many animations of missing episodes, but pretty much all had been reconstructed by a group called Loose Cannon using set photos, composite photos they created, and actual clips that had appeared on other shows like Blue Peter that hadn't been wiped. Those are very good, with the effort put into them being very apparent. Loose Cannon even commissioned new interviews and show intros with some of the principals and crew. For "Marco Polo", they not only got actor Mark Eden to introduce their reconstruction, but even shot a new prologue with Eden resuming his role as Marco Polo.
As a bonus, at least one original episode (part 2 of "The Dalek Master Plan") was found after being reconstructed, so you can compare the two versions.
The Loose Cannon website is defunct now, but they have accounts on Dailymotion and the Internet Archive, where their videos can be found. And their Tardis Fandom page has a list of their reconstructions with sources and extras.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 30, 2024 20:53:45 GMT -5
I've watched the DVD of "The Web of Fear," with reconstruction. It is Lt-Col Lethbridge-Stewart, of the Scots Guards, in that one. He next meets the Doctor in "Invasion," and tells him he has been promoted to Brigadier, and is in charge of UNIT, which is its debut. That one had an animated reconstruction of one episode, but it is a terrific serial, overall. The Brig gets to hang out in a C-130, as a mobile command base, with vehicles driving on and off, before leading the UNIT troops against the Cybermen. How would you rate the reconstructions? My mindset is not yet there to enjoy them. The animation ones were done by Cosgrove-Hall, the people who did the Discworld animation stuff and Danger Mouse and Count Duckula. They were pretty good. Expressive and capturing the mood of the episode. Luckily, in Invasion, the missing episode is not a major one, as far as the plot and action, as it mostly featured the Doctor and Jamie traveling up a waterway, in a canoe. All of the battles with the Cybermen were intact. Having grown up with things like the Power Records vinyl LP & comic book, and similar from Disney, I don't mind similar, with the Doctor Who audio recordings and set photos. The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes includes an edited segment with that, as does the original Lost Horizon. It's like a radio drama, to me. |
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 29, 2024 12:44:45 GMT -5
Forty five years ago today, Minder debuted on ITV. It ran for ten series until 1994: Dennis Waterman played minder Terry McCann, an ex-con who protected dodgy salesman Arthur Daley (George Cole). Daley was a likeable used-car salesman who would put his hand to buying and selling anything, some of it semi-legal. Surprisingly for me, the show survived the departure of Waterman. Gary Webster took over as Ray Daley, Arthur’s nephew, from Series 8 to 10. I would say he did a more than commendable job. While Waterman’s era is the golden era, I would gladly watch the “Ray and Arthur Era” again, even if Ray wasn’t as good a fighter as Terry! codystarbuck, I know a few British shows of that era came onto your radar. Did you see this one? |
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Post by berkley on Oct 29, 2024 14:50:44 GMT -5
We had Minder on CBC in Canada. It was and is probably my favourite tv show of the 1980s. I haven't seen any of the Gary Webster episodes but I think I caught most of the Dennis Waterman series. I have them on dvd but have watched only the first series and that was quite a few years ago now.
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 29, 2024 15:51:00 GMT -5
The Gary Webster episodes are pretty solid, but Ray Daley is not as streetwise and tough as Terry. Still, I enjoyed it.
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Post by berkley on Oct 29, 2024 18:24:52 GMT -5
The Gary Webster episodes are pretty solid, but Ray Daley is not as streetwise and tough as Terry. Still, I enjoyed it. I'll give them a try one of these days. But I'll probably want to watch all the early seasons again first. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 29, 2024 20:38:23 GMT -5
Forty five years ago today, Minder debuted on ITV. It ran for ten series until 1994: Dennis Waterman played minder Terry McCann, an ex-con who protected dodgy salesman Arthur Daley (George Cole). Daley was a likeable used-car salesman who would put his hand to buying and selling anything, some of it semi-legal. Surprisingly for me, the show survived the departure of Waterman. Gary Webster took over as Ray Daley, Arthur’s nephew, from Series 8 to 10. I would say he did a more than commendable job. While Waterman’s era is the golden era, I would gladly watch the “Ray and Arthur Era” again, even if Ray wasn’t as good a fighter as Terry! codystarbuck , I know a few British shows of that era came onto your radar. Did you see this one? Nope. I've seen a few clips, but that is about it. American PBS stations mainly imported the comedies (more BBC than ITV), the big dramas (Upstairs/Downstairs, I Claudius, etc) and the detective shows (Inspector Morse, Touch of Frost, Sherlock Holmes, Poirot, Maigret, Miss Marple, PD James, Hetty Wainthrop, etc). Some of the ITV adventure shows made it to the US, on networks and syndication (The Avengers, The Prisoner, The Saint, etc). When cable expanded, some channels imported some more (sketch comedies and the like); but, stuff like Minder tended to fall into a no-man's land, for programming. I have seen a bit of The Sweeney, with Waterman, because I bought the first series DVD set and from New Tricks, which I watched via Netflix, back in the days when they sent you discs (and then got my own copies) and I knew Cole from film; but, just clips for the actual series. Now, you can find more of that, via Daily Motion, Youtube and other platforms. I have access to it, to watch at some point. |
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Post by berkley on Oct 29, 2024 21:44:43 GMT -5
Forty five years ago today, Minder debuted on ITV. It ran for ten series until 1994: Dennis Waterman played minder Terry McCann, an ex-con who protected dodgy salesman Arthur Daley (George Cole). Daley was a likeable used-car salesman who would put his hand to buying and selling anything, some of it semi-legal. Surprisingly for me, the show survived the departure of Waterman. Gary Webster took over as Ray Daley, Arthur’s nephew, from Series 8 to 10. I would say he did a more than commendable job. While Waterman’s era is the golden era, I would gladly watch the “Ray and Arthur Era” again, even if Ray wasn’t as good a fighter as Terry! codystarbuck , I know a few British shows of that era came onto your radar. Did you see this one? Nope. I've seen a few clips, but that is about it. American PBS stations mainly imported the comedies (more BBC than ITV), the big dramas (Upstairs/Downstairs, I Claudius, etc) and the detective shows (Inspector Morse, Touch of Frost, Sherlock Holmes, Poirot, Maigret, Miss Marple, PD James, Hetty Wainthrop, etc). Some of the ITV adventure shows made it to the US, on networks and syndication (The Avengers, The Prisoner, The Saint, etc). When cable expanded, some channels imported some more (sketch comedies and the like); but, stuff like Minder tended to fall into a no-man's land, for programming. I have seen a bit of The Sweeney, with Waterman, because I bought the first series DVD set and from New Tricks, which I watched via Netflix, back in the days when they sent you discs (and then got my own copies) and I knew Cole from film; but, just clips for the actual series. Now, you can find more of that, via Daily Motion, Youtube and other platforms. I have access to it, to watch at some point.
I think it's a great show but I can't really judge it objectively as it's been a favourite since it first aired in Canada in the early 1980s. However, it was pretty popular, so lots of other people must have liked it too.
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Post by Confessor on Oct 30, 2024 9:20:15 GMT -5
I loved Minder. I've watched a few episodes on daytime TV recently and it holds up well.
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 30, 2024 9:52:52 GMT -5
There was a reboot in 2009, starring Shane Richie as Archie, another nephew of Arthur Daley. His minder was Lex Shrapnel, played by Jamie Cartwright.
It had no heart, little action and Richie tried too hard. One to avoid.
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 31, 2024 16:27:09 GMT -5
There was a reboot in 2009, starring Shane Richie as Archie, another nephew of Arthur Daley. His minder was Lex Shrapnel, played by Jamie Cartwright. It had no heart, little action and Richie tried too hard. One to avoid. I have yet to hear of a reboot, on either side of the Atlantic, that lives up to the original, though Doctor Who depends on the generation of fan who is commenting. I saw about a minute and a half of the Ae You Being Served? reboot, before click away from it. It was desperately trying hard. I did watch Reggie Perin, because of Martin Clunes (enjoyed Doc Marton, men Behaving Badly and William & Mary, as well as his turn in Doctor Who and Goodbye, Mr Chips) and thought it was okay, at best. Never seemed as desperate as the original, with Leonard Rossiter and rather lacking in the fantasy escape. The Fawlty Towers reworking doesn't sound particularly appealing, either. I just don't see it having the same spark, without Connie Booth, let alone the cast, even if Cleese's daughter is co-writing. That, coupled with Cleese's seeming transition into one of his own satirical characters doesn't entice me much. |
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Post by Calidore on Nov 10, 2024 10:04:58 GMT -5
55 (sigh) years ago today, Sesame Street debuted.
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Post by The Captain on Nov 11, 2024 13:13:32 GMT -5
Just rewatched the pilot episode of The X-Files last night, as I am pondering another trip through the first five or six seasons of the show for the first time in years. It was one of my favorite shows when it was first aired, at least for a while, but I eventually lost interest as the conspiracy mythology bogged down everything enjoyable about it.
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