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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 30, 2024 10:23:41 GMT -5
The Avengers are all but one of the Ian Hendry years (or 1 1/3, as the first act or half exists for the first episode, as well as one complete episode). Doctor Who, I think, is missing more from Patrick Troughton than William Hartnell, from what I recall, from listings, especially his first season. It's been ten years since any episodes turned up (from Nigeria); but, there is strong belief that there are copies of most in the hands of private collectors, who are afraid to come forward, for fear of losing them. It's possible that more might come; but, I wouldn't bet an as big a haul as the Nigerian find (and one in Hong Kong, in the 90s, which turned up Tomb of the Cybermen). I believe you’re right about the Troughton Era having more missing episodes. Classic Who is available on BBC iPlayer, but I’ve been able to see very little of the Troughton Era as, quite honestly, I do not have any interest in watching incomplete serials, including those which have been “completed” via audio recordings, telesnaps and animated reconstructions. It’s frustrating because I’d love to see the Yeti storyline in full because it features the debut of Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart (although he was a colonel in that serial). The one I’d really like to see is the First Doctor’s Marco Polo. I might be sounding like a pedant but I don’t want to listen to the surviving audio recordings. I hope that one turns up. Incidentally, episodes of Dad’s Army are missing. I own the available episodes on DVD. Be nice to see the missing episodes found, but I’m not sure the BBC is as committed to finding those as they are for Doctor Who. I've watched the DVD of "The Web of Fear," with reconstruction. It is Lt-Col Lethbridge-Stewart, of the Scots Guards, in that one. He next meets the Doctor in "Invasion," and tells him he has been promoted to Brigadier, and is in charge of UNIT, which is its debut. That one had an animated reconstruction of one episode, but it is a terrific serial, overall. The Brig gets to hang out in a C-130, as a mobile command base, with vehicles driving on and off, before leading the UNIT troops against the Cybermen.
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Post by driver1980 on Sept 30, 2024 11:06:08 GMT -5
I believe you’re right about the Troughton Era having more missing episodes. Classic Who is available on BBC iPlayer, but I’ve been able to see very little of the Troughton Era as, quite honestly, I do not have any interest in watching incomplete serials, including those which have been “completed” via audio recordings, telesnaps and animated reconstructions. It’s frustrating because I’d love to see the Yeti storyline in full because it features the debut of Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart (although he was a colonel in that serial). The one I’d really like to see is the First Doctor’s Marco Polo. I might be sounding like a pedant but I don’t want to listen to the surviving audio recordings. I hope that one turns up. Incidentally, episodes of Dad’s Army are missing. I own the available episodes on DVD. Be nice to see the missing episodes found, but I’m not sure the BBC is as committed to finding those as they are for Doctor Who. I've watched the DVD of "The Web of Fear," with reconstruction. It is Lt-Col Lethbridge-Stewart, of the Scots Guards, in that one. He next meets the Doctor in "Invasion," and tells him he has been promoted to Brigadier, and is in charge of UNIT, which is its debut. That one had an animated reconstruction of one episode, but it is a terrific serial, overall. The Brig gets to hang out in a C-130, as a mobile command base, with vehicles driving on and off, before leading the UNIT troops against the Cybermen. How would you rate the reconstructions? My mindset is not yet there to enjoy them.
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Post by Calidore on Sept 30, 2024 19:34:25 GMT -5
I've watched the DVD of "The Web of Fear," with reconstruction. It is Lt-Col Lethbridge-Stewart, of the Scots Guards, in that one. He next meets the Doctor in "Invasion," and tells him he has been promoted to Brigadier, and is in charge of UNIT, which is its debut. That one had an animated reconstruction of one episode, but it is a terrific serial, overall. The Brig gets to hang out in a C-130, as a mobile command base, with vehicles driving on and off, before leading the UNIT troops against the Cybermen. How would you rate the reconstructions? My mindset is not yet there to enjoy them. I did a big watch-through of lots of classic Doctor Who some years ago. The BBC hadn't yet done many animations of missing episodes, but pretty much all had been reconstructed by a group called Loose Cannon using set photos, composite photos they created, and actual clips that had appeared on other shows like Blue Peter that hadn't been wiped. Those are very good, with the effort put into them being very apparent. Loose Cannon even commissioned new interviews and show intros with some of the principals and crew. For "Marco Polo", they not only got actor Mark Eden to introduce their reconstruction, but even shot a new prologue with Eden resuming his role as Marco Polo.
As a bonus, at least one original episode (part 2 of "The Dalek Master Plan") was found after being reconstructed, so you can compare the two versions.
The Loose Cannon website is defunct now, but they have accounts on Dailymotion and the Internet Archive, where their videos can be found. And their Tardis Fandom page has a list of their reconstructions with sources and extras.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 30, 2024 20:53:45 GMT -5
I've watched the DVD of "The Web of Fear," with reconstruction. It is Lt-Col Lethbridge-Stewart, of the Scots Guards, in that one. He next meets the Doctor in "Invasion," and tells him he has been promoted to Brigadier, and is in charge of UNIT, which is its debut. That one had an animated reconstruction of one episode, but it is a terrific serial, overall. The Brig gets to hang out in a C-130, as a mobile command base, with vehicles driving on and off, before leading the UNIT troops against the Cybermen. How would you rate the reconstructions? My mindset is not yet there to enjoy them. The animation ones were done by Cosgrove-Hall, the people who did the Discworld animation stuff and Danger Mouse and Count Duckula. They were pretty good. Expressive and capturing the mood of the episode. Luckily, in Invasion, the missing episode is not a major one, as far as the plot and action, as it mostly featured the Doctor and Jamie traveling up a waterway, in a canoe. All of the battles with the Cybermen were intact. Having grown up with things like the Power Records vinyl LP & comic book, and similar from Disney, I don't mind similar, with the Doctor Who audio recordings and set photos. The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes includes an edited segment with that, as does the original Lost Horizon. It's like a radio drama, to me.
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