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Post by BigPapaJoe on May 24, 2021 8:19:53 GMT -5
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Post by thwhtguardian on May 24, 2021 9:43:00 GMT -5
I'm still not sure how I feel about this yet
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Post by shaxper on May 24, 2021 9:49:53 GMT -5
I at least respect this next phase of the MCU which, much like Marvel's second decade, is boldly charging into new genres without colorful costumes and villains. That being said, I'm sad to see this first direct adaptation of a Kirby work look so un-Kirby. Later in his life, Kirby decided he wanted to make films, initially pitching Silver Star as a movie. It would be nice to see a film on the big screen that captures Kirby's visual imagination.
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Post by The Captain on May 24, 2021 10:53:39 GMT -5
This is the first MCU trailer that didn't leave me screaming "TAKE MY MONEY" at the end.
It does look "different" from previous MCU offerings, but I'm not sure that translates into "interesting".
Unfortunately, because of how well Marvel has done at interconnecting everything, this will be "important" amd thus will need to be seen.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 11:07:02 GMT -5
This is the first MCU trailer that didn't leave me screaming "TAKE MY MONEY" at the end. It does look "different" from previous MCU offerings, but I'm not sure that translates into "interesting". Unfortunately, because of how well Marvel has done at interconnecting everything, this will be "important" amd thus will need to be seen. I'm still wait and see. This was just a teaser, not a full trailer, and looking back at all of the first trailers for MCU offerings recently through reaction videos done in conjunction with the release of Endgame, there have been some really poor teasers and trailers for what turned out to be great movies (and a few great trailers that turned out to be meh movies-Iron Man 3 I am looking at you). So while I found this a bit underwhelming, I am making no judgments about the movie itself based on it. The first full trailer may tell us a little more, we'll see, but I will see the movie and judge it based on its own merits, not that of the trailers regardless. -M
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 11:20:13 GMT -5
Making trailers has become it's own cottage industry, and Marvel has a habit of using footage in trailers that isn't in the actual movies (sometimes just a different take of the same scene winds up in the final edit, sometimes the footage form the trailer just ends up on the editing room floor when the final edit is done, so I take ALL MCU trailers with a grain of salt in that sense. They are trying to give a gist of the movie and let the general public (who don't know the comics from a hole in the wall) know what the concepts and big ideas of the properties are rather than trying to sell the movie to hardened fanboys and regular comics consumers who are already familiar with the concepts. From the perspective, this teaser fulfilled its purpose even if it wasn't full of oohs and ahs and such.
-M
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Post by codystarbuck on May 25, 2021 1:03:17 GMT -5
Nothing about this says Kirby, whatsoever, which, to me, says it isn't the Eternals. That's been par for the course, for Marvel, since Kirby left it. That said, I can't really tell enough about story to gage whether or not it might be an entertaining or thought-provoking take on the characters (more in name only, from the looks of things). Nothing immediately recognizable as the Deviants, in that, unless I missed something obvious, in the fast transitions. What little I could see of the acting looked fine. It just looked a bit more like a psychological take on Von Daniken and less Kirby mythology mixed with Von Daniken, with a ticking timebomb, as in his work. I wonder if the Celestials will factor in this at all, seeing as they were shanghaied to be creators of the Infinity Stones.
In terms of approach, this seems to be more along the lines of how the Inhumans were morphed to try to replace mutants, rather than adapting the material as created. I really don't think it was ever going to be different as I doubt there is anyone in Hollywood who really gets Kirby, post Silver Age Marvel. Well, Mark Evanier, but he isn't exactly churning out big budget scripts and projects for movies. I don't think you could do a direct adaptation of Kirby's themes, in a movie, because they require time to think about them, which goes against what movies do (especially modern ones). A mini-series would have been a better format, but it would still probably have had to be simplified and streamlined.
It could be a great film, as it is well shot, in those clips, and has good actors and a director who just made Hollywood sit up and take notice, but I would like to see a trailer that gives a better idea of story. What little I have seen about the director's vision sounds more like other influences than Kirby and it is likely to reflect other sci-fi/fantasy more than his work. To me, you have to have Kro and Thena's relationship and Karkas and Reject to even begin to touch Kirby's Eternals, not to mention Sersi (how long before people say she was inspired by Cersei Lannister?).
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Post by brutalis on May 25, 2021 4:52:42 GMT -5
Doesn't have anything close to the Kirby Krackle in there. May be a great movie but couldn't tell it from the trailer. Gonna have to wait for more. Doesn't look like they are holding back on budget as it looks all fancy schmancy. More Demille than Kirby to my eyes.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 10:12:58 GMT -5
WOW. . and *not* in a good way.
looks horrendously boring, and the CGI ship in the opening moments, had me thinking "Zardoz"
big ol bomb
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 10:35:04 GMT -5
I have been watching/reading a lot of reactions to this trailer over the past day (had nothing better to do yesterday while trying to choke down the prep for my procedure this morning). It seems the only people I have seen reacting to this negatively are hardcore comics fans. Most casual fans or non-fans seemed excited or at least intrigued by the teaser and are looking forward to finding out more. And since hardcore comic fans are such an insignificant fraction of the total potential audience, their negative reaction is meaningless in terms of the potential success of the movie.
-M
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 25, 2021 10:52:51 GMT -5
I have been watching/reading a lot of reactions to this trailer over the past day (had nothing better to do yesterday while trying to choke down the prep for my procedure this morning). It seems the only people I have seen reacting to this negatively are hardcore comics fans. Most casual fans or non-fans seemed excited or at least intrigued by the teaser and are looking forward to finding out more. And since hardcore comic fans are such an insignificant fraction of the total potential audience, their negative reaction is meaningless in terms of the potential success of the movie. -M I'm sure that all seven fans of the Eternals comic book are incensed.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 25, 2021 11:05:40 GMT -5
I have been watching/reading a lot of reactions to this trailer over the past day (had nothing better to do yesterday while trying to choke down the prep for my procedure this morning). It seems the only people I have seen reacting to this negatively are hardcore comics fans. Most casual fans or non-fans seemed excited or at least intrigued by the teaser and are looking forward to finding out more. And since hardcore comic fans are such an insignificant fraction of the total potential audience, their negative reaction is meaningless in terms of the potential success of the movie. -M I'm sure that all seven fans of the Eternals comic book are incensed. Hey, I'm as big a fan of Kirby's material as they get, but "incensed" isn't in the picture. Disappointed, yes, surprised, no. Unwilling to see it? No. Well, in a theater, yes, but at home, sure. (can't stand modern theaters and it would be a long time, immunization-wise, before I go anywhere near a place with a crowd in a room, without being able to maneuver away from people). It's got some visual flair and the cast is a good mix of actors and the director has a rep and an Oscar; but, I'm a story guy and that conveys little sense of story (and Marvel's regular trailers don't convey that much at the best of times, quite often). I did read that Salma Hayek was playing Ajak, which makes me want to see them do the scene from issue #12.... Preferably with a reanimated female warrior.............for, you know, gender equality.........
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Post by The Captain on May 25, 2021 12:17:19 GMT -5
I have been watching/reading a lot of reactions to this trailer over the past day (had nothing better to do yesterday while trying to choke down the prep for my procedure this morning). It seems the only people I have seen reacting to this negatively are hardcore comics fans. Most casual fans or non-fans seemed excited or at least intrigued by the teaser and are looking forward to finding out more. And since hardcore comic fans are such an insignificant fraction of the total potential audience, their negative reaction is meaningless in terms of the potential success of the movie. -M Nothing but the utmost respect for you, my friend, but there is a huge difference between being "negative" and being "unimpressed". As you responded to me above, yes, I know it's the teaser trailer, but it didn't tease me in a big way as others have, such as the one for Shang-Chi. Let's not act as though people, including me, are saying we ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY 100% WILL NOT SEE THIS, but that we're not seeing much Kirby influence in the images we've seen THUS FAR and that the trailer, while pretty, was fairly pedestrian. I love you like a brother, but sometimes you exhibit a lot of disdain for the hardcore fans and Wednesday Warriors when we have an opinion based on what WE would like to see. Folks losing their mind over Heimdall being Black or The Ancient One being an androgynous White person, tear them apart all you want, but people not enthused because the trailer is kind of bland and doesn't evoke any sense of that Kirby magic or wonder aren't necessarily against it, just not thrilled by what they've been shown to date.
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Post by james on May 25, 2021 15:27:57 GMT -5
Much like the Inhumans I liked the Eternals as the occasional guest in a main character’s book (Thor 283-288)
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Post by shaxper on May 25, 2021 19:53:11 GMT -5
I have been watching/reading a lot of reactions to this trailer over the past day (had nothing better to do yesterday while trying to choke down the prep for my procedure this morning). It seems the only people I have seen reacting to this negatively are hardcore comics fans. Most casual fans or non-fans seemed excited or at least intrigued by the teaser and are looking forward to finding out more. And since hardcore comic fans are such an insignificant fraction of the total potential audience, their negative reaction is meaningless in terms of the potential success of the movie. -M Nothing but the utmost respect for you, my friend, but there is a huge difference between being "negative" and being "unimpressed". As you responded to me above, yes, I know it's the teaser trailer, but it didn't tease me in a big way as others have, such as the one for Shang-Chi. Let's not act as though people, including me, are saying we ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY 100% WILL NOT SEE THIS, but that we're not seeing much Kirby influence in the images we've seen THUS FAR and that the trailer, while pretty, was fairly pedestrian. I love you like a brother, but sometimes you exhibit a lot of disdain for the hardcore fans and Wednesday Warriors when we have an opinion based on what WE would like to see. Folks losing their mind over Heimdall being Black or The Ancient One being an androgynous White person, tear them apart all you want, but people not enthused because the trailer is kind of bland and doesn't evoke any sense of that Kirby magic or wonder aren't necessarily against it, just not thrilled by what they've been shown to date. Well said. I would hope that, in a community literally devoted to discussing opinions, everyone is entitled to have one. It's fair to say that Marvel isn't paying attention because diehard fans don't make up a significant enough demographic, but that does not invalidate the diehard fan's perspective. Some of the loudmouthed "fanboys" on the web deserve to be muted because they think theirs are the only opinions that matter. That isn't the case here, so let's not make the same mistake of invalidating the opinions of others just because they aren't a demographic majority. A fan of the comic is allowed to be disappointed by how it has translated to the screen.
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