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Post by chadwilliam on Feb 18, 2022 11:49:58 GMT -5
“What about Ace the Bat-Hound?” I hear you cry. Krypto first appeared in the Superboy story in Adventure Comics #210, cover-dated March 1955. Ace the Bat-Hound first appeared in Batman #92, cover-dated June 1955, and Krypto’s second appearance occurred in Adventure Comics #214 the following month. You know what else appeared that month? Rex the Wonder Dog #22, edited by Julius Schwartz. Maybe somebody was pressuring somebody to include more dogs in DC’s top-selling titles. But it’s not a particularly original idea. Besides, people love their dogs! It’s not some outlandish contrivance for Batman and Robin to have a dog. (Or Superboy either! Why wouldn’t they have dogs on Krypton?) In the climate of the time, it could be viewed as another gimmick, but not a particularly fanciful one. Interesting that you've dismantled one of the 'Batman Copied Superman During the Silver Age' blocks of that particular myth here. Of course, even if Batman wanted to, it's not as if Superman had really developed too much of his silver age trappings by this point himself - no Kandor, Supergirl, expanded Rogues Gallery, boyhood friendship with Luthor, etc. - to even have a formula to copy. What I also find interesting is how Bathound's first story isn't as outlandish as one might expect even from a modern standpoint. No "Alfred has amnesia so we'll have to dress a dog up as Batman as Bruce Wayne pretends to be an aged Dick Grayson thus blurring reality so that the shock can..." just - 'Batman and Robin come across a drowning dog and can't just leave him'. No "We'll have to use ventriloquism to get Alfred thinking that BatDog is telling him to burn down Gotham so that when Alfred understandably tries to join The Joker's gang..." just 'a boy's gone missing and a dog would naturally be the animal for the job'. Even Batman's explanation for why he had to borrow Bruce Wayne's dog (how else is he going to track down his kidnapped owner) is sensible. A few years from now and Batman's "Bruce Wayne will have to advertise that he has the dog since I obviously can't invite people over to the Bat-Cave" would probably turn into something like "We'll have to have a contest to find Bathound's owner!" So the beginning of the Silver Age, but a surprisingly sensible start (though I am getting sick of seeing Batman create a makeshift Batsignal every third episode simply by standing in front of a candle or holding a piece of cardboard before a flashlight).
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 18, 2022 12:16:04 GMT -5
chadwilliam and shaxper , I don't think it's a coincidence that Krypto and Ace appeared when they did, as both "Lassie" and The Adventures of Rin Tin Tin" premiered as TV shows in the fall of 1954. Lassie won the Emmy for "Best Children's Program" in '55 and '56 and finished first in its time slot (7pm Sundays) every year of its 17-year run. Rinny (my preferred pooch) finished 23rd in the Nielsens in 1954-'55, and was ABC's second-highest rated program, trailing only Disneyland. So the DC dogs had sniffed out a good thing. BTW, another bit of evidence that Batman didn't copy Superman back then is that Batwoman premiered a full three years before Supergirl and was a key member of the "Batman Family," with five appearances over three titles before Supergirl burst from her rocket in Action 252.
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Post by profh0011 on Feb 18, 2022 13:38:25 GMT -5
I did a tribute to Ace in one of my own stories once. This GIANT ROBOT shows up, and it's wearing a cape & mask. Yeah. A GIANT ROBOT. So someone asks... "WHY is the robot wearing a mask?" And the hero smiles and replies... "Isn't is obvious? To protect his secret identity."
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Post by shaxper on Feb 18, 2022 15:16:41 GMT -5
No "We'll have to use ventriloquism to get Alfred thinking that BatDog is telling him to burn down Gotham so that when Alfred understandably tries to join The Joker's gang..." But...but...now I desperately want to read that story! To be fair, that's what the original inspiration for the Bat Signal was: from The Bat (1926)
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Post by shaxper on Feb 18, 2022 15:19:54 GMT -5
chadwilliam and shaxper, I don't think it's a coincidence that Krypto and Ace appeared when they did, as both "Lassie" and The Adventures of Rin Tin Tin" premiered as TV shows in the fall of 1954. Credit for the observation belongs to Hoosier X and chad, not myself. And while I noted Rin Tin Tin's fame in my review, I completely forgot about Lassie!
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Post by shaxper on Feb 18, 2022 17:32:19 GMT -5
Detective Comics #220 (June 1955) "The Second "Batman and Robin" Team!" Script: Bill Finger Pencils: Dick Sprang Inks: Charles Paris Colors: ? Letters: ? Grade: B The GCD questions whether or not Finger wrote this one, but there is no doubt in my mind. It makes references to past Finger stories (something he has been doing a lot of, as of late): introduces fun new characters, teasing that they may appear again (just as Finger did just last issue with Ace, The Bathound): It finds unusual ways to circumvent the Comics Code while actually making combat a tad more brutal (again, he did this with Ace just last issue): and it has Finger's distinct idealism behind it, too: There's a heart and warmth to this story; something Edmund Hamilton never bothers to provide in his scripts, which feel far more by the numbers. Similarly, this is one of several reasons I prefer Dick Sprang to Sheldon Moldoff. Look at the amount of heart Sprang lends to a panel like this one: turning what could have been a tacky team-up into something that feels a little meaningful. While we're on the subject of Moldoff and Sprang, how the hell are these two BOTH supposed to be ghosting for Bob Kane when they draw the Batmobile completely differently? Moldoff (last issue): Sprang (this issue): For what it's worth, I like Moldoff's design better, but he never manages to center the cockpit bubble correctly. As stories go, this one isn't brilliant, but it is clever. With all the travelling to the past that Batman and Robin have been doing, wouldn't someone take notice? And, as a nice contrast to Finger's Brane Taylor (the Batman from the 31st Century), why not a Batman and Robin team from the past? Of course, it's a little odd to have folks from 1255 speaking Modern English, and in Elizabethan high court dialect, no less: This little misunderstanding proves particularly endearing: and Finger has way too much fun bringing medieval weapons into the climactic battle even if it makes no sense that two random kids from 1255 would know how to build them...and build them in a matter of minutes! All in all, it's a fun story, though, and Finger and Sprang give it enough heart to be able to forgive it its many failings. They're an incredible team for this era, and Hamilton and Moldoff could learn a thing or two from them. Important Details:1. 1st appearance of the Batman and Robin from 1255 AD 2. Interesting that Finger chooses for them to be an older and younger brother, suggesting that this is how we should view Batman and Robin as well. I'd always seen them more as father and son, myself. 3. The Batplane can now convert into a submarine, complete with "ejector-tubes": Minor Details:1. It may seem like a cheat, but Roger Bacon's method of sending his Batman and Robin into the future is one echoed in my favorite time travel novel, Jack Finney's Time and Again:
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 18, 2022 17:40:14 GMT -5
chadwilliam and shaxper , I don't think it's a coincidence that Krypto and Ace appeared when they did, as both "Lassie" and The Adventures of Rin Tin Tin" premiered as TV shows in the fall of 1954. Credit for the observation belongs to Hoosier X and chad, not myself. And while I noted Rin Tin Tin's fame in my review, I completely forgot about Lassie! And I forgot to italicize the "and," because I had seen that.
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 18, 2022 17:53:12 GMT -5
shaxper , going in reverse... 1. "Time and Time Again" is indeed as good a time travel book as there is. Charming, clever, and believable. 2. I guess being propelled from the sea bottom through "ejector-tubes" negates any effects of the bends. 3. What's with the medieval B and R sharing - - is it a hospital bed? Did Bacon see those infamous panels from that issue when Bruce and Dick were bunk-buddies? 4. I love Finger's nods to continuity and his typical concern with authenticity, like the weaponry, especuially the mantelet. See, kids? Learning history can be fun! Though that may perhaps be outweighed by the use of the passive voice: "There come into existence..." Well done, Mr. Finger. 5. As usual, Shax, an entertaining review. Comics history can be fun!
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Post by shaxper on Feb 18, 2022 19:19:01 GMT -5
3. What's with the medieval B and R sharing - - is it a hospital bed? Did Bacon see those infamous panels from that issue when Bruce and Dick were bunk-buddies? Once again, one can't help but wonder if Wertham was on to something...
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Post by zaku on Feb 19, 2022 5:04:09 GMT -5
3. What's with the medieval B and R sharing - - is it a hospital bed? Did Bacon see those infamous panels from that issue when Bruce and Dick were bunk-buddies? Once again, one can't help but wonder if Wertham was on to something... Joking aside, how much of the actual "Seduction of The Innocent" is dedicated to superheroes? I know that the famous Bruce and Dick in the bed together panel is one of the most cited pages from the book, but weren't Wertham's targets primarily horror and crime comics?
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Post by MDG on Feb 19, 2022 8:12:40 GMT -5
shaxper , going in reverse... 1. "Time and Time Again" is indeed as good a time travel book as there is. Charming, clever, and believable. Yeah--a think there's a sequel that I haven't read. But Finney is great, especially his collection The Third Level.
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Post by Hoosier X on Feb 19, 2022 10:24:11 GMT -5
That story in Detective #220 is pure uncut 1950s comic book crack!
I’m sure it’s summarized in Fleischer’s Batman Encyclopedia, but I don’t remember reading about it. (Which makes me think I should make it a project to read the Batman Encyclopedia from cover to cover.)
Dick Sprang is my favorite Batman artist. But still I love Lew Sayre Schwartz and especially Sheldon Moldoff. Honestly, I get the idea that Moldoff was parodying Kane’s style, and he got away with making fun of Kane because Kane was so bad that the parody was better than what was being parodied, and nobody really noticed.
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 19, 2022 10:28:36 GMT -5
shaxper , going in reverse... 1. "Time and Time Again" is indeed as good a time travel book as there is. Charming, clever, and believable. Yeah--a think there's a sequel that I haven't read. But Finney is great, especially his collection The Third Level. I read that sequel, "Time After Time," which invovlved trying to prevent a certain famous maritime disaster, but for me anyway, it didn't have the same feeeling of innocence and originality as "Time and Again." (I misremebered the title of the original in my earlier post.) But I have always enjoyed his short stories; I'lll have to look for that collection.
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Post by shaxper on Feb 19, 2022 14:55:31 GMT -5
Honestly, I get the idea that Moldoff was parodying Kane’s style, and he got away with making fun of Kane because Kane was so bad that the parody was better than what was being parodied, and nobody really noticed. Interesting theory. However, as Bob Kane hadn't penciled a Batman story in over six years by this point, I have to wonder who would have even gotten the joke.
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Post by Hoosier X on Feb 19, 2022 14:55:36 GMT -5
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