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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 13, 2021 7:08:02 GMT -5
… and so it begins! I admit it: I'm a sucker for a tragic love story. Comics have certainly featured their share of them, some good, most not. One of the best involved everyone's favorite Big Blue Boy Scout and a trip through time. 12. Kal-El and Lyla Lerrol, Superman #141
Even filtered through the idiosyncratic editorial mentality of Mort Weisinger, the pathos of the Action Ace's doomed love affair with the beautiful Kryptonian movie star shines through. Scripted by co-creator Jerry Siegel and rarely referred to after the fact, the events of “Superman's Return to Krypton” felt like THE definitive love story for the Silver Age Man of Steel. Every subsequent phase in his romances with Lois and/or Lana fell short of capuring the epic grandeur of his doomed affair with Lyla. It's no coincidence that in concocting an ideal dream life for Kal under the influence of the hypnotic Black Mercy plant in “For the Man Who Has Everything” ( Superman Annual #11), Alan Moore chose married life with Lyla on a Krypton that never exploded. Moore couldn't forget this classic tale and neither could I. Cei-U! I summon the heroic heartbreak!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 7:27:10 GMT -5
12. Eric and Vanessa Openshaw (Striker)Striker is a football strip which began in a UK newspaper, circa 1985. In 2003, it became a short-lived comic. No idea where it is now, but I know it’s appeared here, there and everywhere more than once. Eric Openshaw is the millionaire owner of a football club, Warbury Warriors. And a buffoon, in all honesty. Despite that, he made his millions from pork scratchings prior to running a football club. His long-suffering wife, the beautiful Vanessa, is a gold-digging, materialistic woman who has married Eric for his money. At one point in the strip, she only allowed him to make love to her on his birthday and at Christmas. He loves her immensely, but she loves only his wallet. Their interactions were always comical, and there was something rather endearing about his love for a woman who had zero affection for him. You could always guarantee a laugh while reading about them.
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Post by foxley on Dec 13, 2021 8:01:55 GMT -5
12. Pandora Breedlswight and Fantasia Faust (Ironwood)I have never known a series so completely and utterly destroyed by its final issue as Ironwood. But before that happened, Bill Willingham did give us a charming and sexy relationship between feisty demon-possessed airship captain Pandora Breedlswight and sword-for-hire Fantasia Faust (who happens to be a murderous iron golem and a hot babe on toast in the bargain). Unlike most right-leaning writers, Willingham can write compelling female characters (think of how much of Fables was driven by the interplay between sisters Snow and Rose), and the relationship between these two sexy and driven women was engaging (and hot), for most of the story. And for all that Willingham seemed to think that the feckless Dave Dragavon was the hero of this tale, Pandora was the true protagonist and heart of this story. Unfortunately, Willingham's ending made Pandora's death not so much tragic (which I will charitably assume is what he was aiming for) as completely pointless, and felt petty and vindictive. But until then, I had adored the interplay between Pandora and Fantasia.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 13, 2021 8:17:29 GMT -5
12. Binky and Sheba from Life In Hell by Matt Groening Before hitting it big with The Simpsons, Matt Groening made his mark with his newspaper strip Life In Hell, which focused largely on Binky, an everyrabbit character who served as the medium for Groening's insight into, well, everything about life in modern American society, and probably much of all society around the world. Binky's relationship with his often-estranged girlfriend Sheba is not just the source of some of my favorite humor, but it's reflective of genuine concerns, anxieties, challenges, joys, and pains of love. This is not sitcom-style humor with wacky, unlikely situations and misunderstandings, this is humor extracted from genuine, familiar experiences. Anyone who's had a relationship will recognize some of their own experiences in Binky and Sheba's shared interactions in Groening's strip, and will find ways to laugh at them, find comfort in confirmation of the universality of them. For example, my wife and I each committed (a different) one of the above no-no's in our first phone conversation together...
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Post by DubipR on Dec 13, 2021 8:26:07 GMT -5
Here we go! Today's Song: "Can't Help Falling In Love"- Elvis Presley. #12- Cliff Secord and Betty Page
Dave Stevens gave to the comic universe a couple that, on page really aren't together as much, but their love for each other is felt throughout the run of the book. Cliff's undying love for Betty is so strong as he tries to make amends for every thing he's done wrong in his life and their life together. Does it work out? Ehhhh.. not really but he tries, no matter what craziness happens between them. What makes them a compelling couple is that it's relationship that feels so real. Not only grounded in reality, Stevens took pin up model icon to new heights and gave a new generation of readers to fall in love with Cliff's gal. What's not to love about having a romance of a simple ham-and-egger fall in love with a budding pin-up queen? The wonder feel that Dave Stevens wrote and drew of the relationship between Cliff and Betty is that no matter what odds were against them; Betty's lure to New York or Cliff on the run against the mob and the government, their love for each other holds strong. Cliff tries hard to impress Betty but knows that deep down all the nonsense of Hollywood and Broadway she's a simple gal that loves her man so.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 9:34:50 GMT -5
#12 - Earth 2 Bruce Wayne and Selina KyleThe story around this in Brave and the Bold #197 is my favorite take on Batman's romantic fate. Full disclosure, I'm not a "gritty" Batman fan and I do like old school romance so this hit the right chord with me. But I also appreciated how this story had a real poignancy. Teamed up against the Scarecrow, his fear gas revealed the inner fears that ultimately made them realize a lot more about themselves, and shedding their masks (the ultimate vulnerability) in that instant not only rescued them from the effects but finally brought them together permanently. Anybody can write the "brooding Dark Knight", but a tragic figure finding some true happiness in life for a period for me is priceless:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 9:58:51 GMT -5
On the first day of Christmas, True Love gave to me one of the longest continuously running couples in comicdom: Blondie and Dagwood Bumstead The strip started in 1930 following the exploits of Blondie Boopadoop and her boyfriend Dagwood Bumstead, heir to an industrial fortune. Their early romance was fraught-filled, with Blondie being a carefree flapper girl and Dagwood being the serious foil for her antics, with Dagwood even being written out and replaced, but brought back due to negative fan response. Their romance was frowned upon by the Bumstead family, who thought Blondie was beneath his station, and Dagwood had to go on hunger strike to prove his love for her to his family, who never truly accepted it, giving their permission but disinheriting Dagwood from the family fortune. True love requires sacrifice, and if Dagwood was willing to give up all that for Blondie, she must be some woman, and he must truly love her and both turned out to be true. The marriage changed the dynamic of the strip, reversing their roles with Blondie becoming the sober, serious, responsible foil for Dagwood’s antics, and transforming the couple into the poster child of the trope of the 20th century married couple where the wife is the one keeping it together and the husband is the gallant fool who loves his wife but never treats her with the respect she deserves-a trope seen in other comic strips such as Hagar and Helga in Hagar the Horrible and in other mid-century American media in such couples as Ralph and Alice Kramden and Fred and Wilma Flinstone (both of whom also appeared in comics and got consideration but I only wanted to represent that particular couple trope once). I grew up reading the funny pages and Blondie and Dagwood were ubiquitous in that time. A lot of my early attempts to self-teach myself cartooning and drawing involved trying to draw Blondie to try to learn how to draw normal girls (as opposed to super-heroic woman), and paperback collections of Blondie strips were among the many we had in the house (along with Hagar, Beetle Bailey and others). To me they will always represent the American couple in comics. Blondie and Dagwood as a couple represent a lasting love (90+ years and counting) that is true and sincere, even if it is flawed and often taken for granted by one or the other of the participants until something (usually some gag with a bit more serious side) reminds them why they are in love with each other. It's sweet (often saccharine) and simple, but there’s something reassuring and comforting about their relationship as well. -M (and hey there's a red dress )
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Post by shaxper on Dec 13, 2021 10:31:59 GMT -5
#12. Alex Summers (Havok) and Lorna Dane (Polaris)as written by Chris Claremont I've read very few stories starring these characters and honestly can't tell you much about them. Unlike every other choice on my list, it's not who Alex and Lorna are that has always impressed me as a reader. Rather, it's what they represent as a couple. Very early into Chris Claremont's run, he made the unique decision to retire Alex and Lorna, showing them happily building a romance and a potential life together outside of the superhero world. This was incredibly important because, while most superheroes suit up for the first time and last time of their own volition, Alex and Lorna were mutants; they fought less because they wanted to and more because the cause needed them. That they could ultimately walk away from that and strive for normalcy...it made them the face of every mutant the X-Men were fighting for: mutants who had the right to live normal, ordinary, beautifully boring lives without being drafted by Xavier, nor harassed by the occasional sentinel nor mutant registration bill. The very concept at the core of Claremont's X-Men depended upon a love like Alex and Lorna's being given space to grow. They strived to live the very ideal upon which the franchise was built. And thus, I rooted for them harder than any other couple I'd ever been asked to care about in comics; every time they were pulled back into the fold, it truly hurt in a way different than when any other comic book couple--ordinary or super-powered--were dragged, kicking and screaming, back into action. That we saw so little of them over the course of a decade and a half was a measurement of success for the mutant cause. It's also why I turned away and winced when Peter David got them suited up again for his run on X-Factor. Some heroes deserve to retire and enjoy a life of peace. I truly wanted that for Alex and Lorna.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 13, 2021 11:00:47 GMT -5
… and so it begins! I admit it: I'm a sucker for a tragic love story. Comics have certainly featured their share of them, some good, most not. One of the best involved everyone's favorite Big Blue Boy Scout and a trip through time. 12. Kal-El and Lyla Lerrol, Superman #141
Even filtered through the idiosyncratic editorial mentality of Mort Weisinger, the pathos of the Action Ace's doomed love affair with the beautiful Kryptonian movie star shines through. Scripted by co-creator Jerry Siegel and rarely referred to after the fact, the events of “Superman's Return to Krypton” felt like THE definitive love story for the Silver Age Man of Steel. Every subsequent phase in his romances with Lois and/or Lana fell short of capuring the epic grandeur of his doomed affair with Lyla. It's no coincidence that in concocting an ideal dream life for Kal under the influence of the hypnotic Black Mercy plant in “For the Man Who Has Everything” ( Superman Annual #11), Alan Moore chose married life with Lyla on a Krypton that never exploded. Moore couldn't forget this classic tale and neither could I. Cei-U! I summon the heroic heartbreak! Not the first time one of your write-ups has enticed me to go out and buy a book. I may still be looking for those damn Andy Panda stories, but at least this book was only $20 on ebay!
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Post by brutalis on Dec 13, 2021 11:17:22 GMT -5
#12 Karate Kid and Princess Projectra
The reverse romantic fantasy of every girl who dreams of finding her Prince Charming. It is the everyman, dedicated Earth boy training of himself in being the best martial artist he can be, escaping his poor beginnings and finding his true love, a royal Princess from a far away world. A real partner as part of the team Legion of Super-Heroes, they find love and short lived happiness until the tragic death of Karate Kid. A love so strong, the grief and heartbreak drives the Princess to madness.
Val of earth and Jeckie of Orando in the classic futuristic version of the tragedy of doomed lovers. I was a young teen, the perfect age for enjoying the various romances found in the LSH during the Cockrum/Grell runs and their couplings all grabbed me by the hormones! Of all those imaginative and creative couples to choose from, theirs is one of the best for which I couldn't get enough of. My own heartbreak over KK's death was devastating and all the more "real" as it remains canon with Val never being brought back like that lucky punk of Lightning Lad.
So many wonderful matches of characters in the Legion to choose from so I forced myself to limiting it to just ONE couple. And the Warrior and the Princess stands out strongest in my memories...
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 13, 2021 12:12:29 GMT -5
#12. Robin and Bat-GirlWarning: Just to be clear here. Today's choice and nearly every other one on the list have been taken from my warm and fuzzy memories of the Silver Age, when I was brand new to comic books, the proverbial wide-eyed naif who had no idea of allusion, homage, sub-text, the sub-conscious, the unconscious, post-modernism, or any other literary term… except prelapsarianism, which I didn’t know anything about until I learned what it was and realized that during those idyllic days when comics’ Silver Age coincided with my own Golden Age, a time others used to call childhood, I was living in the prelapsarian world.
Anyway, one of my earliest comic memories was reading the first-ever novel-length Batman story, “Prisoners of Three Worlds” in Batman 153 (on sale inn December 1962), featuring Batman and Robin teaming with Batwoman and Bat-Girl. Long story short, both couples were exiled to different alien worlds and as the chapters progressed, it became increasingly apparent to the couples and to the readers that they were not going to make it back to Home, Sweet Home. Which meant an extraordinary (for the time) climax to each chapter that involved each pair admitting their love for each other at long last. Because, after all, they were all going to die alone together light-years from Earth. Or at least that’s what a very new, very enraptured eight-year-old comic book reader was going to believe! This was adult literature for me at the time, with the feelings between a couple of kids of an indeterminate age treated seriously and respectfully in the face of impending death. Over the years I would find via reprint and back issues, the other Robin/Bat-Girl stories from that era, in which Bat-Girl was forever Flirtina McCutie and Robin played his part-- none too effectively-- The Boy Who Feared Cooties. Inevitably Bat Girl kissed Robin chastely and Robin blushed like the red planet Mars, but we canny readers knew that these were indicators of true love, however nascent. Nothing came of all this, with Batwoman and Bat-Girl vanishing from the more serious New Look comics, and my becoming a more “sophisticated” comics reader. But I still look back warmly at the skill with which the great Bill Finger balanced his skill at writing for kids while tapping into emotional depths that still resonate in my memory.
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 13, 2021 12:15:49 GMT -5
… and so it begins! I admit it: I'm a sucker for a tragic love story. Comics have certainly featured their share of them, some good, most not. One of the best involved everyone's favorite Big Blue Boy Scout and a trip through time. 12. Kal-El and Lyla Lerrol, Superman #141
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Even filtered through the idiosyncratic editorial mentality of Mort Weisinger, the pathos of the Action Ace's doomed love affair with the beautiful Kryptonian movie star shines through. Scripted by co-creator Jerry Siegel and rarely referred to after the fact, the events of “Superman's Return to Krypton” felt like THE definitive love story for the Silver Age Man of Steel. Every subsequent phase in his romances with Lois and/or Lana fell short of capuring the epic grandeur of his doomed affair with Lyla. It's no coincidence that in concocting an ideal dream life for Kal under the influence of the hypnotic Black Mercy plant in “For the Man Who Has Everything” ( Superman Annual #11), Alan Moore chose married life with Lyla on a Krypton that never exploded. Moore couldn't forget this classic tale and neither could I. Cei-U! I summon the heroic heartbreak! Beat me to it, Kurt. See you in a few days!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 13, 2021 12:19:27 GMT -5
#12 : Jugurtha and Vania umagesJugurtha was a strip published in the Tintin weekly back in the 70s and '80s, and written by Jean-Luc Vernal. In its first iteration, drawn by a young Hermann, it was a historical adventure inspired by Sallust's The War with Jugurtha, and featured the clash between the Roman Republic and the eponymous prince of Numidia. Then, after a few years hiatus, the series was restarted with artwork by Franz; this time around, we followed Jugurtha as he escaped from his Roman goal (where, in real life, he died) and went on to lead a slave revolt, establish a new country on an island in the Atlantic ocean, sack the city of Rome and get lost for many years, Odysseus-like, traveling the far reaches of the world (China and central Africa). Something I am an absolute fan of in literature is a romance that grows organically, and that feels as if it surprised the writer as much as us readers. Such a thing can happen when characters are so well-rounded that they take a life of their own, and it was the case here with Vania. When Jugurtha founded his new mid-Atlantic country ("The Island of Resurrection"), on what seemed to be remnants of the old Atlantis, we expected him to assume the traditional role of the male hero in such historical fantasies; as is usually the case, he was even given a potential love interest in Svannée, a blond and pulchritudinous princess descended from Atlanteans. I expected the series to show how the new country prospered, with Jugurtha and Svanée at its head. But then things changed! While on a trip to the continent, Jugurtha was exposed once more to Rome's brutality, and although he had decided not to mess with the great city again, he was convinced by angry Gauls to lead an army against the eternal city. The army was successful, the city sacked, and among the prisoners made along the way was a Roman girl, Vania, who at first pretended to be a seeress. She really seemed to be a secondary character at best. But lo and behold, the red-haired and freckled firebrand managed to make her mark, and to grow into our favourite character! No wonder, too, because she's essentially a Roman Laureline. She and Jugurtha weren't a couple at first, although the sexual tension between the two was palpable. As they got abducted by slavers, then by King Mithridates, then by more slavers, then by Chinese warlords, they had the chance to save each other time and time again. They seemed to bicker more often than not, but also not to be able to live without the other! Svanée was promptly forgotten, both by Jugurtha and by the readers. It was in the last Jugurtha book I read that he and Vania finally got around to realize what they felt, and got together. I hope they stayed that way through the rest of the series!
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 13, 2021 13:25:10 GMT -5
Yep. I knew I'd have this problem from the very start: ranking them. To me, there's just a bunch of comics couples/romances I like, that's it - ranking them just never occurred to me. So except for maybe the first two, the order in my list is going to be pretty arbitrary. Anyway, even though these two are among the first that came to mind when Kurt announced this year's theme, I suppose the nature of the series they appear in makes them less 'weighty' than some of my other entries. To wit: #12: E-man and NovaE-man, the good-natured and rather naive cosmic energy being who's taken human form, and Nova Kane, grad student and exotic dancer, seem like a rather unlikely couple to highlight, and their rather tongue-in-cheek series means their relationship may lack the gravitas and high romance of the many, far more famous comic book pairings. But I've always loved them together - because you really can't have E-man without Nova. They almost have the vibe of a sitcom couple, because the series itself (and by that I mainly mean the original 10-issue Charlton run in the early 1970s) is kind of sitcomish - but in a good way. And as in any good sitcom (or rom-com), I simply enjoy their easy rapport and amusing, often comical banter as they get caught up in all manner of outlandish situations and adventures...
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 13, 2021 13:37:51 GMT -5
12. Bruce Wayne and Silver St. Cloud To some extent this is maybe nostalgia. This run came out when I was 10 years old and it remains one of my favorite runs on a superhero funnybook. The thing that stood out (and still stands out), besides the fact that Ms. St. Cloud, as depicted by Marshall Rogers was incredibly sexy, is that Silver is a normal person. She's not a superhero or supervillain. She's doesn't appear to have any great underlying secrets or a wild and wacky character arc. She's just this normal person who might, under non-funnybook circumstances, have been able to help Bruce Wayne lead an approximation of a normal life. Now we all know that's destined to fail given the realities of long-underwear books. But we can hold out hope.
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