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Post by badwolf on Dec 19, 2021 17:30:27 GMT -5
Good point. I remember a Spidey story where some guy in the Daily Bugle lift was warning folk about aliens but they dismissed him. Yet this is a world where aliens routinely visit Earth. 😞 It's just some kinda publicity stunt.
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Post by badwolf on Dec 19, 2021 17:34:51 GMT -5
In the mid-60s, somebody built a McDonald's directly across the street from a Gino's. Just didn't seem right. Of course, back then, Gino's, in addition to hamburgers, also had the Kentucky Fried Chicken franchise. Gino's was the KFC place to us. We got the buckets.
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Post by jason on Dec 19, 2021 18:46:36 GMT -5
As for the whole GI Joe/Transformers deal, I can accept Joe and Transformers co-existing in the same universe, I can even accept Jem and the Holograms being characters (if just for worldbuilding), and for future stories, C.O.P.S. fits in as well (The character Checkpoint was said to be Beachhead's son, and since the filecards for both characters were written by Larry Hama,,). ROM OTOH seems too much like a "superhero" to fit in that universe. I still wish Marvel had been able to buy the full rights to ROM.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Dec 20, 2021 12:31:27 GMT -5
For one example, characters who identify as atheist despite living in worlds where magic and deities objectively exist.
There is a way to do that well, but we rarely see it: to assume that magicians and deities are simply the same as sci-fi-based superhumans and alternate universe/alien invaders … but with pretensions.
Doctor Thirteen ought to be written that way, but DC instead goes to the trouble of making him look like an idiot.
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Post by badwolf on Dec 20, 2021 14:21:10 GMT -5
Gods like Asgardians are presented as an alien race though. So I don't see why atheism is a problem for any character. Otherdimensional entities don't equal "god."
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 20, 2021 15:16:25 GMT -5
Gods like Asgardians are presented as an alien race though. So I don't see why atheism is a problem for any character. Otherdimensional entities don't equal "god." I think it depends on the shared universe we consider. In the Marvel Universe all attempts at using actual Judaeo-Christian religious figures were later retconned; the Jesus and Satan we met in Son of Satan and Ghost Rider were promptly demoted to the status of otherdimensional entities. The closest we came to meeting God recently, he turned out to be Jack Kirby! In the DC universe, however, we are supposed to be dealing with the actual Lucifer and Satan (who are, oddly enough, not the same fellow). There is such a thing as a religious Heaven and Hell (and not only otherdimensional realms where captured souls can be roasted over slow fires). That a Tony Stark or even Doctor Strange would be an atheist I would find perfectly reasonable; however, John Constantine would be a different matter!
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Post by badwolf on Dec 20, 2021 16:18:26 GMT -5
This may be an unpopular view but I believe Jack Kirby is merely a superhuman.
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Post by jason on Dec 20, 2021 18:53:08 GMT -5
I thought Marvel Comics refers to God as "The One Above All".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 19:36:01 GMT -5
I thought Marvel Comics refers to God as "The One Above All". Didn’t Thor mention the real God while talking to a priest in one classic story?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 20, 2021 22:28:38 GMT -5
I really enjoyed when all the satan-like characters in the MU were competing for control of hell... made all sorts of sense to me... even if Strong Guy winning didn't (it was still super fun though). I'm fine with accepting different super heroes let each other battle their own villains to an extent, but when the threat becomes big enough to start effecting the world, I expect some sort of nod to why others aren't helping out.. like back in the day when you'd see Cap call Reed Richards or Professor X when a big problem happened the the latter would be very busy and couldn't help. Such things made me happy
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Post by jason on Dec 21, 2021 0:45:16 GMT -5
Yeah, there's an issue of X-Men where Havok wants to contact the Avengers due to some problem with the X-Men. Only problem is that this story takes place after the destruction of Avengers mansion by the Masters of Evil, so we get a panel of him staring at the rubble of the mansion. Good continuity nod and explains away why they cant help.
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