Post by lordyam on Feb 23, 2022 20:24:50 GMT -5
As I mentioned in another thread, I'm a big fan of both Marvel and Dark Horse's runs on Conan but also feel both have flaws. And as much as I like the works of Robert E Howard certain stories have NOT aged well in regards to portrayal of women or people of color. As such I will be trying to combine the two into a more cohesive whole while also making a bit more of a coherent story and toning down a lot of the racism.
Note, this is an edited version of a previous take with a few ground rules
1.) While Conan and Thoth cross paths, they don't actually meet until the climax of the multi hundred issue run
So without further ado let's dig in
Series 1 - Conan the Barbarian
Issue 0: Conan the Legend
Issues 1-7: Hyperborea/Frost Giant's daughter arc: Sjarl and Einar's betrayal gets everyone captured, and most of the captives are enslaved to work to death. However, Vammatar (the witch Queen of Hyperborea) takes an interest in Conan and tries to force Conan to be her boytoy in exchange for his friends lives (and yes this is shown to be a deeply coercive and creepy thing.) From this position, Conan sees the cruelty and depravity of the Hyperborean elite (sacrifices to Zernabog, Vammatar is a powerful and evil Witch.)
However her enslaved handmaiden Iasmini befriends Conan, helping him cope with his situation. Eventually Iasmini reveals that Vammatar is just slowly killing Conan's friends anyway and that soon they'll all be dead. Conan is motivated to take his surviving friends and escape with Iasmini. He sees Old Gorm's body on the rack, lasting just long enough to see him expire (though he is glad to know that Conan did not in fact betray them). He convinces the survivors that he didn't betray them, but as they escape the guards find out and sound the alarm. Vammatar is furious and goes to personally deal with the problem, killing Iasmini with a bolt of energy. Conan and the survivors narrowly escape, returning to reveal Sjarl and Einar's treachery before dealing a brutal revenge on them. Conan stays with the Aesir for a while, but decides to continue on. He decides to head into Nemedia
Issue 8: Born on the Battlefield Part 1
Issues 9-14: Welcome to the City of Thieves. Opens up with Brave Thieves of Bertinus, leads into God in the Bowl. After this is horror of Uskath Hill; the circumstances play out somewhat differently but the end result (Conan's on a hill with creepy demons and has to survive) is the same. After this Conan decides he isn't going to let civilization best him and so heads to the most brutal place in the civilized world...the city of thieves. Issues 12-14 concern Conan's first arrival in the city of thieves. Conan by chance saves a Zamoran Court Page and they become friends. The Page helps Conan learn the local tongue and also increases his ability to read; Conan's friend however gets in serious trouble with the criminal underworld, forcing Conan to go on the warpath to save him.
Issue 15: Born on the Battlefield Part 2
Issues 16-22: The story opens up with the Tower of the Elephant as a three parter; Conan's star also begins to rise as a result, which attracts Jiara to him. He also has his first encounter with Janissa when they both hit the same place at the same time (Conan to rob it, her to kill the owner and steal a certain artifact). They end up being forced to work together when the owner of the house turns the tables on them and traps them in an arena. They manage to succeed in getting out of their predicament and Janissa takes out her target. They part ways, and Janissa admits Conan has a rough potential about him.
Issue 23: Born on the Battlefield Part 3
Issues 24-30: This is basically Dark Horse's Hall of the Dead story arc WITHOUT filler. Conan pisses off the establishment and Nestor goes after him. Conan even says right before trapping Nestor in 24 "yeah, done that. Not doing it again." Iniri of Kiresh shows up and senses Nestor's darkness following Conan. This ultimately helps set the stage for the Yaralet story arc.
Issue 31: Born on the Battlefield Part 4
Issues 32-37: Rogues in the House Arc; Plays out the same as the Dark Horse Version
Issues 38-39: Born on the Battlefield Parts 5-6
Issues 40-44: Yaralet arc; Iniri's arc reaches the end, and she stays with Ereshka. Conan continues heading back north.
Issues 45-50: Conan returns to Cimmeria; Caollan dies to Breccan's cowardice and Conan heads out. However he decides to head somewhere else. This time....he will go the lands his Grandfather never visited. The East.
Series 2: Conan the Cimmerian
Issues 51-57: Conan gets captured in Agraphur and is given the option of death or enlistment. Conan chooses enlistment. He rushes through basic training (making enemies with Sergius and Thuthmekri) but then Vammatar declares war on Turan, unleashing her army of zombies on Turan's borders. What follows is a desperate war against Hyperborea, culminating in a do or die secret mission to Vammatar's capital to assassinate her. Conan is dispatched due to his personal history with Vammatar and the fact he’s been in the Aerie. It's touch and go but Conan and a small band succeed in taking Vammatar down (with Conan avenging Iasmini and his friends in the process), causing her army of zombies to collapse into dust. Conan and the soldiers who were on the raid now have a strong bond forged in the fires of war. King Tomar ascends to Hyperborea's throne and a peace treaty (albeit with concessions on the Hyperboreans) is reached.
Issues 58-64: Conan’s star in the Turanian army slowly begins to rise, but than his commander (a decent if pompous sort) is killed in battle and the guy replacing him (General Reshit) is a sociopathic monster. Conan reaches his breaking point when Reshit slaughters the city of Razadan after having promised mercy if they surrendered. Conan murders Reshit, and is slated for death before his friends discretely free him before they all go awol.
Issues 65-71: Conan and his band run into Kalanthes, who's transporting a dangerous artifact from Hyrkania to Hanumar to destroy it. Conan tells Kalanthes the story of God in the Bowl, and Kalanthes offers them a job helping him transport the artifact back (he needs men to replace those lost in the first clash.) Conan reluctantly agrees in exchange for a large amount of gold. At the same time Thoth Amon has dispatched his elite death squad the dark riders (borrowed from the Mongoose RPG) with orders to kill Kalanthes and retrieve the artifact. Janissa and several assassins from the Bone Woman appear during one battle and save them, with Janissa explaining that the Bone Woman wants the artifact destroyed. Conan is wary of her, but they develop a respect for the other and Janissa even opens up somewhat about her past. Things climax in Hanumar; Thoth's spy within the city opens the way for the surviving riders, who summon a horde of demons within the city, triggering a final desperate battle as Kalanthes conducts the ritual to destroy the eye.
In the final battle Conan saves Janissa from Ammuphis (the leader of the Dark Riders) and manages to best the swordsman in a vicious duel that pushes him to the limits and very nearly results in his death. The Bone Woman approaches him as he's recovering and is furious when Conan rejects her offer; she ominously warns him that they will speak again. Kalanthes offers the survivors of Conan's band (not many) a position. Conan politely declines but Alafdahl (the leader) accepts the offer, and he and Conan bid each other farewell.
72-73: Conan arrives in Argos, befriending a soldier and his lady friend. He covers for the friend after the friend goes on the run for killing the captain of the guard, and so Conan is dragged before the magistrate. He kills the magistrate and flees.
74-75: First part of Queen of the Black Coast. That said there is one change; I always thought it weird how chummy is Conan is with the Black Corsairs after they killed the crewmen he befriended on the Argus so here's a change. Basically Belit, while extremely ruthless, DOES usually give her targets a chance to surrender and turn over their loot (unless you're Stygian in which case you're shit out of luck). Tito rejects the offer because he doesn't want to loose his cargo, and so battle is joined. Conan thus realizes that if Tito hadn't been so proud the crew might have lived and so he isn't as angry. And Belit DOES intrigue him.
76-78: Belit's origin story. I'm basing this on some changes that I envisioned for a tv show that I posted on reddit. Belit's origin is that her parents were Shemite merchants who's ship sank on the Black Coast. Belit's parents died, but Belit survived by clinging to some driftwood. N'Yaga's tribe adopted her and she was raised as one of their own; she even at one point married the chieftain and became queen of the tribe. However, her happiness was shattered when a rival tribe invaded and slaughtered most of her people before selling her tribe into slavery; Belit was kept as a trophy. Eventually N'Yaga returned to save her and she killed the chieftain who abused her. Having lost any hope of finding her family, she decides to form a new one....the Black Corsairs. The initial members were being captured by Stygian slavers; Belit and N'Yaga through trickery and guile they were able to wipe out the Stygians and steal their ship, with some of the slaves joining up with Belit.
79-81: Conan and Belit tangle with Sergius of Khorosa, coming out on top and sinking his ship off the coast of Shem.
81-84: Belit learns that a tribe that pays her tribute has been sacked by the forces of Abombi; Belit doesn't take too kindly to this and so attacks Abombi, sacking the city. Conan kills one of the kings, while his brother flees
85-88: Conan and Belit meet Kalanthes; Conan manages to defuse things, and Kalanthes explains that he is seeking another dangerous artifact from the Well of Skelos. He asks if Conan would be willing to help and after some discussion an accord is reached; since Ibis is a god of knowledge, it can hopefully reveal whether there are any survivors of Belit's old tribe and if so what happened to them. Belit agrees to the terms and they work together to brave the Well of Skelos, fighting Thoth's agents in the process. Kalanthes keeps his word and asks Ibis to divine the fates of Belit's tribe. Good news, a few of them are alive and some have happy lives. Bad news, some of them are slated to be sacrificed in Stygia's holiest festival.
89-94: This is a longer arc; Belit and Conan must break into Luxur itself and save Belit's tribesmen from being sacrificed. They burn the fleet of Khemi on the way, and after a daring infiltration mission they're able to trigger a massive prison uprising, fleeing with the survivors in the process. While the Stygians are able to return some for sacrifice, many were able to escape to freedom.
95-98: Pirate adventure; sort of something that lightens the mood before Queen of the Black Coast's devastating finale.
99-100: The finale of Queen of the Black Coast; ends with Conan going sadly into the jungle.
Note, this is an edited version of a previous take with a few ground rules
1.) While Conan and Thoth cross paths, they don't actually meet until the climax of the multi hundred issue run
So without further ado let's dig in
Series 1 - Conan the Barbarian
Issue 0: Conan the Legend
Issues 1-7: Hyperborea/Frost Giant's daughter arc: Sjarl and Einar's betrayal gets everyone captured, and most of the captives are enslaved to work to death. However, Vammatar (the witch Queen of Hyperborea) takes an interest in Conan and tries to force Conan to be her boytoy in exchange for his friends lives (and yes this is shown to be a deeply coercive and creepy thing.) From this position, Conan sees the cruelty and depravity of the Hyperborean elite (sacrifices to Zernabog, Vammatar is a powerful and evil Witch.)
However her enslaved handmaiden Iasmini befriends Conan, helping him cope with his situation. Eventually Iasmini reveals that Vammatar is just slowly killing Conan's friends anyway and that soon they'll all be dead. Conan is motivated to take his surviving friends and escape with Iasmini. He sees Old Gorm's body on the rack, lasting just long enough to see him expire (though he is glad to know that Conan did not in fact betray them). He convinces the survivors that he didn't betray them, but as they escape the guards find out and sound the alarm. Vammatar is furious and goes to personally deal with the problem, killing Iasmini with a bolt of energy. Conan and the survivors narrowly escape, returning to reveal Sjarl and Einar's treachery before dealing a brutal revenge on them. Conan stays with the Aesir for a while, but decides to continue on. He decides to head into Nemedia
Issue 8: Born on the Battlefield Part 1
Issues 9-14: Welcome to the City of Thieves. Opens up with Brave Thieves of Bertinus, leads into God in the Bowl. After this is horror of Uskath Hill; the circumstances play out somewhat differently but the end result (Conan's on a hill with creepy demons and has to survive) is the same. After this Conan decides he isn't going to let civilization best him and so heads to the most brutal place in the civilized world...the city of thieves. Issues 12-14 concern Conan's first arrival in the city of thieves. Conan by chance saves a Zamoran Court Page and they become friends. The Page helps Conan learn the local tongue and also increases his ability to read; Conan's friend however gets in serious trouble with the criminal underworld, forcing Conan to go on the warpath to save him.
Issue 15: Born on the Battlefield Part 2
Issues 16-22: The story opens up with the Tower of the Elephant as a three parter; Conan's star also begins to rise as a result, which attracts Jiara to him. He also has his first encounter with Janissa when they both hit the same place at the same time (Conan to rob it, her to kill the owner and steal a certain artifact). They end up being forced to work together when the owner of the house turns the tables on them and traps them in an arena. They manage to succeed in getting out of their predicament and Janissa takes out her target. They part ways, and Janissa admits Conan has a rough potential about him.
Issue 23: Born on the Battlefield Part 3
Issues 24-30: This is basically Dark Horse's Hall of the Dead story arc WITHOUT filler. Conan pisses off the establishment and Nestor goes after him. Conan even says right before trapping Nestor in 24 "yeah, done that. Not doing it again." Iniri of Kiresh shows up and senses Nestor's darkness following Conan. This ultimately helps set the stage for the Yaralet story arc.
Issue 31: Born on the Battlefield Part 4
Issues 32-37: Rogues in the House Arc; Plays out the same as the Dark Horse Version
Issues 38-39: Born on the Battlefield Parts 5-6
Issues 40-44: Yaralet arc; Iniri's arc reaches the end, and she stays with Ereshka. Conan continues heading back north.
Issues 45-50: Conan returns to Cimmeria; Caollan dies to Breccan's cowardice and Conan heads out. However he decides to head somewhere else. This time....he will go the lands his Grandfather never visited. The East.
Series 2: Conan the Cimmerian
Issues 51-57: Conan gets captured in Agraphur and is given the option of death or enlistment. Conan chooses enlistment. He rushes through basic training (making enemies with Sergius and Thuthmekri) but then Vammatar declares war on Turan, unleashing her army of zombies on Turan's borders. What follows is a desperate war against Hyperborea, culminating in a do or die secret mission to Vammatar's capital to assassinate her. Conan is dispatched due to his personal history with Vammatar and the fact he’s been in the Aerie. It's touch and go but Conan and a small band succeed in taking Vammatar down (with Conan avenging Iasmini and his friends in the process), causing her army of zombies to collapse into dust. Conan and the soldiers who were on the raid now have a strong bond forged in the fires of war. King Tomar ascends to Hyperborea's throne and a peace treaty (albeit with concessions on the Hyperboreans) is reached.
Issues 58-64: Conan’s star in the Turanian army slowly begins to rise, but than his commander (a decent if pompous sort) is killed in battle and the guy replacing him (General Reshit) is a sociopathic monster. Conan reaches his breaking point when Reshit slaughters the city of Razadan after having promised mercy if they surrendered. Conan murders Reshit, and is slated for death before his friends discretely free him before they all go awol.
Issues 65-71: Conan and his band run into Kalanthes, who's transporting a dangerous artifact from Hyrkania to Hanumar to destroy it. Conan tells Kalanthes the story of God in the Bowl, and Kalanthes offers them a job helping him transport the artifact back (he needs men to replace those lost in the first clash.) Conan reluctantly agrees in exchange for a large amount of gold. At the same time Thoth Amon has dispatched his elite death squad the dark riders (borrowed from the Mongoose RPG) with orders to kill Kalanthes and retrieve the artifact. Janissa and several assassins from the Bone Woman appear during one battle and save them, with Janissa explaining that the Bone Woman wants the artifact destroyed. Conan is wary of her, but they develop a respect for the other and Janissa even opens up somewhat about her past. Things climax in Hanumar; Thoth's spy within the city opens the way for the surviving riders, who summon a horde of demons within the city, triggering a final desperate battle as Kalanthes conducts the ritual to destroy the eye.
In the final battle Conan saves Janissa from Ammuphis (the leader of the Dark Riders) and manages to best the swordsman in a vicious duel that pushes him to the limits and very nearly results in his death. The Bone Woman approaches him as he's recovering and is furious when Conan rejects her offer; she ominously warns him that they will speak again. Kalanthes offers the survivors of Conan's band (not many) a position. Conan politely declines but Alafdahl (the leader) accepts the offer, and he and Conan bid each other farewell.
72-73: Conan arrives in Argos, befriending a soldier and his lady friend. He covers for the friend after the friend goes on the run for killing the captain of the guard, and so Conan is dragged before the magistrate. He kills the magistrate and flees.
74-75: First part of Queen of the Black Coast. That said there is one change; I always thought it weird how chummy is Conan is with the Black Corsairs after they killed the crewmen he befriended on the Argus so here's a change. Basically Belit, while extremely ruthless, DOES usually give her targets a chance to surrender and turn over their loot (unless you're Stygian in which case you're shit out of luck). Tito rejects the offer because he doesn't want to loose his cargo, and so battle is joined. Conan thus realizes that if Tito hadn't been so proud the crew might have lived and so he isn't as angry. And Belit DOES intrigue him.
76-78: Belit's origin story. I'm basing this on some changes that I envisioned for a tv show that I posted on reddit. Belit's origin is that her parents were Shemite merchants who's ship sank on the Black Coast. Belit's parents died, but Belit survived by clinging to some driftwood. N'Yaga's tribe adopted her and she was raised as one of their own; she even at one point married the chieftain and became queen of the tribe. However, her happiness was shattered when a rival tribe invaded and slaughtered most of her people before selling her tribe into slavery; Belit was kept as a trophy. Eventually N'Yaga returned to save her and she killed the chieftain who abused her. Having lost any hope of finding her family, she decides to form a new one....the Black Corsairs. The initial members were being captured by Stygian slavers; Belit and N'Yaga through trickery and guile they were able to wipe out the Stygians and steal their ship, with some of the slaves joining up with Belit.
79-81: Conan and Belit tangle with Sergius of Khorosa, coming out on top and sinking his ship off the coast of Shem.
81-84: Belit learns that a tribe that pays her tribute has been sacked by the forces of Abombi; Belit doesn't take too kindly to this and so attacks Abombi, sacking the city. Conan kills one of the kings, while his brother flees
85-88: Conan and Belit meet Kalanthes; Conan manages to defuse things, and Kalanthes explains that he is seeking another dangerous artifact from the Well of Skelos. He asks if Conan would be willing to help and after some discussion an accord is reached; since Ibis is a god of knowledge, it can hopefully reveal whether there are any survivors of Belit's old tribe and if so what happened to them. Belit agrees to the terms and they work together to brave the Well of Skelos, fighting Thoth's agents in the process. Kalanthes keeps his word and asks Ibis to divine the fates of Belit's tribe. Good news, a few of them are alive and some have happy lives. Bad news, some of them are slated to be sacrificed in Stygia's holiest festival.
89-94: This is a longer arc; Belit and Conan must break into Luxur itself and save Belit's tribesmen from being sacrificed. They burn the fleet of Khemi on the way, and after a daring infiltration mission they're able to trigger a massive prison uprising, fleeing with the survivors in the process. While the Stygians are able to return some for sacrifice, many were able to escape to freedom.
95-98: Pirate adventure; sort of something that lightens the mood before Queen of the Black Coast's devastating finale.
99-100: The finale of Queen of the Black Coast; ends with Conan going sadly into the jungle.