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Post by tarkintino on Apr 21, 2022 11:44:54 GMT -5
Kevin Huizenga: no.
Juanjo Guarnido: no.
Michael Golden: no.
Alison Bechdel: no.
Craig Thompson:no.Lewis Trondheim: no.Jim Sternako: yes; The obvious choice among the names offered here, and like Neal Adams, another revolutionary figure who aded a bold new language to the art of comics that would never be truly matched--imitated, yes, but not matched or surpassed. David Lloyd: no.
The list so far: Comic book talent:
Stan Lee John Romita Sr.* John Buscema Neal Adams* Denny O'Neil Roy Thomas Marv Wolfman George Perez Gil Kane Jim Steranko
Comic strip talent:
Charles Schulz Alex Raymond
*Both also had excellent comic strip runs
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Post by commond on Apr 21, 2022 18:09:06 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Five ChoicesAs I made these daily drops I'd cut some off to keep the size down each day and ended up with a bit of a hodgepodge of remainders from those lists. These are some who remain. Today Iet’s see if Kevin Huizenga, Juanjo Guarnido, Michael Golden, Alison Bechdel, Craig Thompson, Lewis Trondheim, Jim Sternako, or David Lloyd are in your top 10. Also want to pay respect to one name cats Seth and Jason. And going to ask if Stan Sakai is on your list. A lot of these cartoonists and graphic novelists seem like they've produced the kind of books I'd be into, but I haven't gotten to their work yet. From the list, I'm only familiar with Golden, Steranko, Lloyd, a little bit of Seth, and Stan Sakai. I toyed with having Steranko on my list, but I don't think his body of work is large enough. The same for Golden and Lloyd. There seems to be a collection of talented artists who couldn't quite meet the demands of monthly deadlines and had limited outputs. I feel bad about not having Sakai on my list. He's one of the modern masters. If I ever get caught up with Usagi I might include him.
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Post by Trevor on Apr 21, 2022 19:58:40 GMT -5
^ similar thoughts on Sakai here. I love Usagi and own it all, but have read maybe 10% of it at best.
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Post by Duragizer on Apr 21, 2022 20:44:24 GMT -5
Joe Quesada — He's the guy that once said that superhero comics shouldn't be for kids, right? What an asshat. That and "One More Day" make him one of my bottom creators. Barry Windsor-Smith – No. David Lapham – No. Jim Shooter – No. Tim Truman – No. Bob Layton – No. Jim Lee – The rich man's Rob Liefeld. That's not an endorsement. Kurt Busiek – I loved Untold Tales of Spider-Man. He's one those writers who seem to have an understanding of how to write modern superhero comics right. I need to read more of his stuff, especially Astro City. But until then, I have to say no. Mark Waid – Superman: Birthright left a bad taste in my mouth. I'll likely never be able to look past that. Sam Kieth – No. Charles Vess – He draws a mean Wendigo. But no. P. Craig Russel – Only read his Coraline adaptation. Liked it tremendously – it gave the story verve I found lacking in Gaiman's prose – but it's not enough to go by. Gene Colan – No. Erik Larsen – No. Too similar to McFarlane. Don Rosa – No. Jeff Smith – Much as I love Bone, no. Dave Stevens – No. Jim Steranko – Absolute YES. His Outland adaptation won me over. Unlike schmucks like Bendis, he knows how to bring a cinematic quality to comics without turning the medium into a series of talking heads. My list so far: - Neal Adams(?)
- John Byrne(?)
- Jack Kirby
- Mike Mignola
- George Perez
- Jim Steranko
- Bill Watterson
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Post by Trevor on Apr 22, 2022 7:28:26 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Five Response and Wrap—Up
Sadly, several of these creators are still pretty much unknown to me, some likely buried in my various backlog piles/boxes/rooms. Wimbledon Green by Seth looks amazing, but I’m only a few pages in so far.
Michael Golden was my guy back in the day. Micronauts is part of my comics foundation. It and Plop are the two books most responsible for me being a collector. That first year of Micronauts is nearly perfect. I followed him to The ‘Nam, and he became one of the few artists I ever searched back issue bins for anything they ever did. That said, I don't have any more space for ‘just’ artists on my list, so he goes to my probably about full ‘just art’ top ten list.
I love love love the several books by Jason that I've read so far. Have a couple more, and some Richard Sala books, on order right now. I feel like he could get into my top ten someday, if he keeps producing stuff like he has so far.
Love Jim Sternako, but just not enough comic output.
Stan Sakai would be top ten if it was based solely on skill and perseverance, but as much as I love Usagi, it doesn’t evoke feelings and personal memories like other works. Probably because I’m mostly just buying them all and not reading the darn books.
So I still stand at eight: Frank Miller Jack Kirby Carl Barks Alan Moore Mike Mignola Jeff Lemire Bernie Wrightson Matt Wagner
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Post by Trevor on Apr 22, 2022 7:29:51 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Six Choices
Today I want to get to a few creators who are those we all know to be masters and who I think are monsters but often I think are backseated to more famous people on books they work with (usually Alan Moore lol)
Today I ask if Rick Veitch, Stephen Bissette, Eddie Campbell, Frank Quietly, Kevin O’Neil, Eduardo Risso, or Mark Buckingham are in your top 10.
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Post by MDG on Apr 22, 2022 8:38:42 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Six ChoicesToday I ask if Rick Veitch, Stephen Bissette, Eddie Campbell, Frank Quietly, Kevin O’Neil, Eduardo Risso, or Mark Buckingham are in your top 10. Nope, though I like a lot of the things Bissette has done.
So far: Comic Books: Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko, Xaime Hernandez, Dan Clowes
Comic Strips: Bill Watterson, Milton Caniff, Charles Schulz, Alex Raymond, George Herriman
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 22, 2022 8:45:04 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Six ChoicesToday I want to get to a few creators who are those we all know to be masters and who I think are monsters but often I think are backseated to more famous people on books they work with (usually Alan Moore lol) Today I ask if Rick Veitch, Stephen Bissette, Eddie Campbell, Frank Quietly, Kevin O’Neil, Eduardo Risso, or Mark Buckingham are in your top 10. Once again, none of the above. I like Veitch and Bissette, especially together. I'm not crazy about Campbell or O'Neil--their styles simply don't appeal to me--and I can't stand Quitely. Dunno if I've ever encountered Buckingham. No idea who Risso is.
Top Ten (comic books): Barks, Gilbert Hernandez, Kelly, Kirby, Perez*, Stevens Top Ten (comic strips): Canniff, Herriman, Kelly, Schulz, Watterson
* provisional
Cei-U! I summon the fail (Moore or less)!
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Post by tarkintino on Apr 22, 2022 8:47:49 GMT -5
Rick Veitch: Heh...no.
Stephen Bissette: no.
Eddie Campbell: no.
Frank Quietly: no.
Kevin O’Neil: no.
Eduardo Risso: no.
Mark Buckingham: no.
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Post by badwolf on Apr 22, 2022 8:56:12 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Six ChoicesToday I want to get to a few creators who are those we all know to be masters and who I think are monsters but often I think are backseated to more famous people on books they work with (usually Alan Moore lol) Today I ask if Rick Veitch, Stephen Bissette, Eddie Campbell, Frank Quietly, Kevin O’Neil, Eduardo Risso, or Mark Buckingham are in your top 10. Quitely and Risso are two of my favorite modern artists, but once again not top creators. Veitch and Bissette are very good but I haven't read enough of them yet. The others I am not that famliar with.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 22, 2022 9:17:30 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Six ChoicesToday I want to get to a few creators who are those we all know to be masters and who I think are monsters but often I think are backseated to more famous people on books they work with (usually Alan Moore lol) Today I ask if Rick Veitch, Stephen Bissette, Eddie Campbell, Frank Quietly, Kevin O’Neil, Eduardo Risso, or Mark Buckingham are in your top 10. None of the above. Honestly I like all of them. Veitch and Bissette stand out among these. And O'Neil did one of my favorite comics of all time. But none would crack my top ten. Top Ten (Comic Books): Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore, Carl Barks, Darwyn Cooke, Warren Ellis, Jeff Smith, Garth Ennis, Ed Brubaker, Wally Wood, Tim Truman Top Ten (Comic Strips): Walt Kelly, Bill Watterson, Berke Breathed, Gary Larson, Milton Caniff, Charles Schulz, Al Williamson,
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Post by EdoBosnar on Apr 22, 2022 9:31:04 GMT -5
No to all of the day 26 choices.
My list so far: John & Sal Buscema, Alan Moore, George Perez, Walt Simonson, John Byrne, and Alan Brennert
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Post by commond on Apr 22, 2022 9:53:48 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Six ChoicesToday I want to get to a few creators who are those we all know to be masters and who I think are monsters but often I think are backseated to more famous people on books they work with (usually Alan Moore lol) Today I ask if Rick Veitch, Stephen Bissette, Eddie Campbell, Frank Quietly, Kevin O’Neil, Eduardo Risso, or Mark Buckingham are in your top 10. Veitch and Bissette are guys I always read about growing up but not that familiar with. I know Bissette from his Swamp Thing run but not much else. In the 1990s, Campbell would have been on my list for From Hell, Bacchus and Alec. I have no idea if he's built on that. Quitely is a good artist. I love O'Neil's work on Nemesis the Warlock. If I'd know he drew The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, I would have read that instead of Lost Girls. I only know Risso from 100 Bullets and Buckingham from Fables. I've read the Gaiman issues of Miracleman but don't have strong memories of Buckingham's art.
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Post by Dizzy D on Apr 22, 2022 10:09:44 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Six ChoicesToday I want to get to a few creators who are those we all know to be masters and who I think are monsters but often I think are backseated to more famous people on books they work with (usually Alan Moore lol) Today I ask if Rick Veitch, Stephen Bissette, Eddie Campbell, Frank Quietly, Kevin O’Neil, Eduardo Risso, or Mark Buckingham are in your top 10. like them, but don't make my Top 10.
So still: Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore, Jean Giraud, Matt Wagner, Bill Sienkiewicz, Lewis Trondheim.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2022 11:13:19 GMT -5
I like all of them on today's list except Quitely. I just find his art off-putting and I am not sure if it is the scripts of the writers he works with or his own shortcomings, but I find the panel to panel and page to page storytelling to be weak, which is my #1 factor in evaluating comic book artists. Of the rest, I really like Buckingham and Bissette, but none of them are approaching anywhere near the top of my list.
So my top 10 (8 slots filled) remains: Moebius, Joe Kubert, Darwyn Cooke, Milton Canniff, Frank Frazetta, Alex Raymond Jeff Smith, and Stan Sakai.
-M
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