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Post by Trevor on May 1, 2022 5:24:15 GMT -5
Day Thirty-Three Response and Wrap—Up
I was only a big mutant fan for a brief period around the time of The New Mutants debut, so haven't read many Paul Smith books. I do really like his art though; he was a nice fill-in for The Dude on Nexus.
Adam Hughes has been a favorite since Maze Agency, a series I really need to get serious about filling my holes and (partly re-) reading. Loved his Ghost, that Star Trek graphic novel, and obviously his covers over the years. Still need to read a couple of his series like the Superman Gen 13 crossover and that Before Watchmen book. He’d be in my artist only list.
Jeffrey Scott Campbell is someone I've somehow avoided over the decades. His art looks nice, but I don't think I've read anything where he did more than the cover or a pin-up.
Peter David is near the top of my writers list, maybe even number two. Love his runs on Star Trek, Phantom, Hulk, Supergirl, and Spider-Man 2099. And expect to love X-Factor, Soulsearchers and Company, and any others once I get around to them. Have loved his novels and his columns for CBG. Hmmm, I just might have to add him to my list.
Steve Englehart was never a favorite, but I've read and enjoyed a lot of his books over the decades. I vaguely recall really liking The Strangers over at Malibu’s Ultraverse.
My list remains at 9. Frank Miller Jack Kirby Carl Barks Alan Moore Mike Mignola Jeff Lemire Bernie Wrightson Matt Wagner Will Eisner
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Post by Trevor on May 1, 2022 5:26:41 GMT -5
Day Thirty-Four Choices
I'm excited and nervous as a stand-in for the Real Talk Top 10 project. Today I would like to offer you a selection of creators where the connecting theme is the intersection of politics and comics. Creators’ whose comics have resulted in political ‘disappearances,’ where ethnic or gender representation was the marked contrast to the mainstream, comics about menstruation, comics that normalize oppressed identities; these are comics that, due to their very existence, provide relevant social criticism and offer us all the opportunity to be better people.
Who wants to claim Alberto Breccia, Lynda Barry, Julie Doucet, or Michael DeForge in their personal Top 10?
Additionally - some housekeeping for names mentioned but I'm not sure were offered yet (sorry if I messed this up, it's a lot to scroll through) - this is your opportunity to claim spots on your list for Bilquis Evely, Brian Lee O’Malley, Erik Larsen, or Matias Bergara.
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Post by commond on May 1, 2022 7:00:03 GMT -5
A lot of unknowns today, but I'm very interested in Alberto Breccia.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2022 7:26:56 GMT -5
Yep, a lot of unfamiliar names to me, so no faves among them for me. I like Biquis Evely's art that I saw in the Sandman revival books a few years back, but nowhere near enough to place the work in top tier territory. I am familiar with Brian Lee O'Malley's stuff, but I've never read Scott Pilgrim or anything else he did. Erik Larsen is a big ball of meh for me. Respect his longevity on his creator-owned title, but I was never drawn to his stuff. The rest are creators I would have to google to have any idea of what they have done though I have seen some of the names mentioned in the context of comics before.
-M
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Post by tarkintino on May 1, 2022 7:52:40 GMT -5
Alberto Breccia: no.
Lynda Barry: nnnooooo.
Julie Doucet: no.
Michael DeForge: Just no.
Bilquis Evely: no.
Brian Lee O’Malley: no.
Erik Larsen: Not enough hallucinogens on earth to make his work tolerable.
Mathias Bergara: no.
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Post by EdoBosnar on May 1, 2022 8:51:10 GMT -5
From what I have seen, Breccia has done some remarkable work, but besides seeing samples I haven't really read anything that he's done. Barry (it's Lynda not Linda by the way) is quite popular in some circles, but her comics and her style never much appealed to me. Doucet, DeForge, Evely, O'Malley and Bergara are all artists whose work I have seen online but that's about it. None of them are really my cuppa. I have read a few things on which Larsen has worked, either as writer/artist or just artist. Don't hate his work, but don't love it, either. So it's no to everyone today.
So the thus far 8-man list remains unchanged: John & Sal Buscema, Alan Moore, George Perez, Walt Simonson, John Byrne, Alan Brennert and Will Eisner.
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Post by badwolf on May 1, 2022 18:18:28 GMT -5
I like Paul Smith and Adam Hughes, but not top 10.
Campbell, no.
David and Englehart, hell no.
I recognise a couple of the names in Day 34 but no/not familiar.
For manga, I'd suggest Rumiko Takahashi or Masamune Shirow, though they wouldn't make my personal top 10.
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Post by Trevor on May 2, 2022 5:50:53 GMT -5
Day Thirty-Four Response and Wrap—Up
Good sir, you have shamed me with listing multiple creators of which I’ve never heard. And here I thought I was becoming well-rounded and somewhat eclectic.
I’m aware of Lynda and have been needing to check out her work someday. Have probably heard of DeForge and know that the rare times I blind read something from Drawn & Quarterly I usually love it, so should get on that with his work.
The samples I’ve seen of Bilquis Evelyn’s work are gorgeous. I have at least two series from her in my to read piles, looking forward to reading that new Supergirl series now that it’s finished.
I love love love the Scott Pilgrim film, but couldn’t get into the comic the one time I tried. But I’m sure I’ll try again.
Not a big fan of Larsen but respect his persistence and like his art.
Matias’ art looks great, but pretty sure I don’t own anything by him yet.
My list remains at 9. Frank Miller Jack Kirby Carl Barks Alan Moore Mike Mignola Jeff Lemire Bernie Wrightson Matt Wagner Will Eisner
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Post by Cei-U! on May 2, 2022 6:36:37 GMT -5
Day Thirty-Four ChoicesI'm excited and nervous as a stand-in for the Real Talk Top 10 project. Today I would like to offer you a selection of creators where the connecting theme is the intersection of politics and comics. Creators’ whose comics have resulted in political ‘disappearances,’ where ethnic or gender representation was the marked contrast to the mainstream, comics about menstruation, comics that normalize oppressed identities; these are comics that, due to their very existence, provide relevant social criticism and offer us all the opportunity to be better people. Who wants to claim Alberto Breccia, Lynda Barry, Julie Doucet, or Michael DeForge in their personal Top 10? Additionally - some housekeeping for names mentioned but I'm not sure were offered yet (sorry if I messed this up, it's a lot to scroll through) - this is your opportunity to claim spots on your list for Bilquis Evely, Brian Lee O’Malley, Erik Larsen, or Matias Bergara. Again, no to all.
Top Ten (comic books): Carl Barks, George Carlson, Robert Crumb, Will Eisner, Gilbert Hernandez, Walt Kelly, Jack Kirby, Harvey Kurtzman, George Perez*
Top Ten (comic strips): Milton Caniff, Roy Crane, Fred Gottfredsen, George Herriman, Walt Kelly, Gary Larson, Charles Schulz, E.C. Segar, Cliff Sterrett, Bill Watterson
* provisional
Cei-U! I summon the terse reply!
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Post by Trevor on May 2, 2022 6:46:39 GMT -5
Day Thirty-Five Choices
Ok, we’re in the home stretch of this experiment everyone, basically one week left. Day 42 is the end. So get any ideas to me asap. Today is the first of two Manga Mondays. Big thanks to @dizzy D for the good parts of the below write-ups, and I apologize to him if my added commentary if off base.
Osamu Tezuka: The godfather of manga. Astroboy is probably his most popular creation, but he produced many very different works in his life, like Letter to Adolf, Buddha and Black Jack. The cartoon of his creation Kimba the White Lion is a favorite of mine, and I still think that they should have sued Disney over stealing it for The Lion King.
Kentaro Miura: Where Tezuka has done many different works, Miura is mostly known for one title only, Berserk, the very dark medieval fantasy manga that has inspired many works. His artwork was heavily detailed and draws from both modern as medieval influences. Died way too young at only 54, last year.
Junji Ito: Another mangaka known for his dark and disturbing works is Junji Ito, one of the foremost horror artists in Japan. Though his most famous works are dark and disturbing, often centering on the corruption of the human body and mind, he also has short stories that are more absurdist in tone as well as an semi-autobiographical story about his housecats.
Akira Toriyama: Going for more lighter fare: Akira Toriyama is best known for the fighting manga Dragonball, though this work started out as a comedy like most of his works. He's also been the designer on many video games, Chrono Trigger and Dragon Quest being the most famous of them.
Eiichiro Oda: With nearly 500 million copies sold of his tour-de-force, the pirate manga One Piece, Eiichiro Oda is one of the best-selling authors ever. Running weekly for nearly 25 years and still ongoing, One Piece is a massive undertaking (Oda has said it is going to end in 2025, but that remains to be seen).
Naoko Takeuchi: Creator of Sailor Moon, establishing a genre in itself, but she created many other works as well (though Sailor Moon is one of the few long-running works that she completed).
Rumiko Takahashi: (Ranma 1/2, Inuyasha and many others) Eisner Hall of Fame member and probably the most successful female comic artist in the world.
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Post by Cei-U! on May 2, 2022 7:33:36 GMT -5
Day Thirty-Five ChoicesOk, we’re in the home stretch of this experiment everyone, basically one week left. Day 42 is the end. So get any ideas to me asap. Today is the first of two Manga Mondays. Big thanks to @dizzy D for the good parts of the below write-ups, and I apologize to him if my added commentary if off base. Osamu Tezuka: The godfather of manga. Astroboy is probably his most popular creation, but he produced many very different works in his life, like Letter to Adolf, Buddha and Black Jack. The cartoon of his creation Kimba the White Lion is a favorite of mine, and I still think that they should have sued Disney over stealing it for The Lion King. Kentaro Miura: Where Tezuka has done many different works, Miura is mostly known for one title only, Berserk, the very dark medieval fantasy manga that has inspired many works. His artwork was heavily detailed and draws from both modern as medieval influences. Died way too young at only 54, last year. Junji Ito: Another mangaka known for his dark and disturbing works is Junji Ito, one of the foremost horror artists in Japan. Though his most famous works are dark and disturbing, often centering on the corruption of the human body and mind, he also has short stories that are more absurdist in tone as well as an semi-autobiographical story about his housecats. Akira Toriyama: Going for more lighter fare: Akira Toriyama is best known for the fighting manga Dragonball, though this work started out as a comedy like most of his works. He's also been the designer on many video games, Chrono Trigger and Dragon Quest being the most famous of them. Eiichiro Oda: With nearly 500 million copies sold of his tour-de-force, the pirate manga One Piece, Eiichiro Oda is one of the best-selling authors ever. Running weekly for nearly 25 years and still ongoing, One Piece is a massive undertaking (Oda has said it is going to end in 2025, but that remains to be seen). Naoko Takeuchi: Creator of Sailor Moon, establishing a genre in itself, but she created many other works as well (though Sailor Moon is one of the few long-running works that she completed). Rumiko Takahashi: (Ranma 1/2, Inuyasha and many others) Eisner Hall of Fame member and probably the most successful female comic artist in the world. I know exactly jack and squat about manga, other than that I don't like 99% of what little I've seen.
Top Ten (comic books): Carl Barks, George Carlson, Robert Crumb, Will Eisner, Gilbert Hernandez, Walt Kelly, Jack Kirby, Harvey Kurtzman, George Perez*
Top Ten (comic strips): Milton Caniff, Roy Crane, Fred Gottfredsen, George Herriman, Walt Kelly, Gary Larson, Charles Schulz, E.C. Segar, Cliff Sterrett, Bill Watterson
* provisional
Cei-U! I summon the ignorance!
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Post by commond on May 2, 2022 8:01:31 GMT -5
YES! to Miura. I came to Berserk quite late. A friend of mine was over from New Zealand, and for some reason, he was heavily into it and introduced me to it while was visiting. I wasn't reading a ton of comics at the time but binge read the book based on his recommendation. It quickly became one of the best things I've read, and Miura shot to the top of my list of creators. It's almost been a year since he died and his death is still raw. I don't think I've come across a better artist in comics history than Miura, so he would rank number one on my list.
Tezuka is considered the God of Manga in Japan. The other beloved creators are the creators of Doraemon, the blue robot cat that is ever present in Japanese culture, Toriyama, who created the Dragon Ball phenomenon, and Oda, who dominated the manga landscape for most of the time I've been in Japan up until the recent rise of Demon Slayer. Of the creators listed, I am most interested in Ito's work. He's a tremendous horror artist. I am fond of the animes based on Takahashi's work but haven't read the original source material.
My list so far: John Buscema, Gene Colan, Jaime and Gilbert Hernandez, Dan Clowes, Kentaro Miura
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Post by MDG on May 2, 2022 8:04:59 GMT -5
Nobody the past couple days, though I enjoyed Barry's Syllabus: Notes from an Accidental Professor and will probably take another look at it soon. I'd love to read some Tezuka--the little I have has been excellent.
Still: Comic Books: Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko, Xaime Hernandez, Dan Clowes, Alex Toth, Harvey Kurtzman, Charles Burns
Comic Strips: Bill Watterson, Milton Caniff, Charles Schulz, Alex Raymond, George Herriman, Chester Gould, Roy Crane, Cliff Sterrett, Frank King, Ernie Bushmiller
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Post by EdoBosnar on May 2, 2022 8:24:34 GMT -5
Of these manga creators listed, I've thus far only read something by Tezuka (the excellent Ode to Kirihito) that I really enjoyed. I've at least heard of the rest of them and have seen some samples of work by Ito, Toriyama and Takeuchi in particular. I've only started to get into some manga recently, so I'm going to say no to all of them just because I just haven't read enough for them to move into my top tiers of favorites. However, in a few years, I suspect I'll have a much greater appreciation for creators like Tezuka or Miyazaki once I manage to read some (more) of their work. So my list remains unchanged: John & Sal Buscema, Alan Moore, George Perez, Walt Simonson, John Byrne, Alan Brennert and Will Eisner.
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Post by Dizzy D on May 2, 2022 8:39:23 GMT -5
Kentaro Miura also made it on my list. Not only for the artwork, but also the way that Berserk developed over the years, from a dark, revenge-driven story to a more fairy tale like story (still with its dark parts at time, but a lot more positive in its outlook on humanity and the world).
The rest I know of and I've read a bit by each. Ito and Tezuka would probably make my Top 50 list or so. Also contemplated some other mangaka I know and love, but wanted to stick with the big names for this entry (even though I still missed a lot of big names) I like Toriyama when he's doing comedy, but lost interest in Dragonball when it became focused on fighting. The rest I'm ambivalent about.
So my list so far: Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore, Matt Wagner, Bill Sienkiewicz, Lewis Trondheim, Jean Giraud, Kentaro Miura.
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