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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 7:16:59 GMT -5
Do you feel like the Robin mantle was successfully taken up after Dick Grayson flew the coup and came into his own as Nightwing?
If so, who gets your choice?
IMPORTANT: I misspelled the Stephanie Brown option, it looks like "Other" but it's really her. I promise.
Unrelated to the survey itself (since this is technically Grayson still), I think this was a defining moment for Robin:
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 11, 2022 7:33:33 GMT -5
I hate Robin (and all costumed kid sidekicks) at the conceptual level so "none of the above."
Cei-U!
I summon the bad attitude!
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 11, 2022 8:02:05 GMT -5
What the heck, man?
Where’s Steph?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 8:05:38 GMT -5
What the heck, man? Where’s Steph? I LOVE Steph, both as Robin and Batgirl!! I was totally going to add her as a choice but thought I'd be the only one here who liked her...show's what I know! Vote "other"...I would be very happy to see her get some representation  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 8:12:57 GMT -5
I hadn't really thought about this before, but as Robin there's a bit of a Betty Kane vibe as well with the red in the costume and blond hair, maybe another reason I really like Steph!  |
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 11, 2022 8:20:34 GMT -5
I can’t decide between Carrie Kelley and Steph. So I haven’t voted yet.
I’m getting ready for work right now, but when I have time, I’ll explain why I can’t vote for Jason, Tim or Damian, even thought I’ve liked all of them at one point or another.
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Post by foxley on Apr 11, 2022 8:21:30 GMT -5
I came in here all set to vote for Stephanie Brown, but she's not even an option?! I boycott in progress!  |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 11, 2022 8:28:03 GMT -5
I hate Robin (and all costumed kid sidekicks) at the conceptual level so "none of the above." Cei-U! I summon the bad attitude! This is the correct answer. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 8:29:32 GMT -5
I hear you guys, my apologies for the Steph thing! But don't worry, I "fixed it" in the original post...we're cool now. Nobody will even catch on  |
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Post by badwolf on Apr 11, 2022 9:31:59 GMT -5
I liked Tim best, but Damian was interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 10:51:49 GMT -5
So I surprised myself by voting Carrie, when I was putting this together I thought it would be between Tim and Damian overall even though I have really liked all of these characters at different points over the years (again, including Steph!)
Tim just seemed to work well the longest to me. I really did NOT like the idea of Damian initially, but grew to like him a lot over time as well. And his portrayal in the Batman/TMNT animated movie alone was just killer.
But thinking back to when DKR came out, much as it hasn't overall aged great with me from a re-readability standpoint, she won me over quickly as a very different Robin and probably one of my favorite parts of that book. The Dark Knight sequels are largely unreadable to me, so not so much there (which is a shame, I thought the Catgirl take could have been good as well).
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Post by SJNeal on Apr 11, 2022 11:49:23 GMT -5
Gonna go with Jason, just to be contrarian. |
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Post by chadwilliam on Apr 11, 2022 12:12:08 GMT -5
I liked Tim Drake when he was in training mode even though there just being a Tim Drake plays into so much of what I dislike about what Batman's become. The idea that Batman is so unhinged that he needs a little kid around him in bright colors to keep from going over the edge is just as ridiculous as Batman taking on another Robin after the previous one got blown up, but... I did like seeing a Robin who worked behind the scenes and by stealth when on the field. Much more low-key than Robin had ever been, his second night out alone had him simply talking a sniper into not killing himself while other appearances took care to take on one criminal at a time while maintaining a safe distance. It didn't last, but I liked for a little while. And hey, a Neal Adams designed outfit rendered by Norm Breyfogle? How couldn't I go with Tim Drake.   |
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 11, 2022 17:26:48 GMT -5
First, why I can’t vote for Damian Wayne.
I wasn’t reading comics when Damian was introduced. But I started reading comics again in 2011, when the New 52 started. And I really liked Damian. The little psycho is frequently very entertaining. (And I still want to see a story where Crazy Quilt makes one last attempt to get revenge on Robin, goes after Damian, and gets a vicious beatdown that forever relieves him of any desire to seek vengeance on a 12-year-old boy.)
I eventually read the Grant Morrison stories and the earliest Damian appearances, and I just don’t find them very interesting. I don’t have a problem with the way Damian is portrayed, but Morrison is just not a very good Batman writer. I guess I’d have to say that, yes, Grant Morrison has a lot of ideas, but a lot of them don’t go anywhere and he just doesn’t do anything that I find interesting with them.
And then they killed Damian. I guess they brought him back, but I don’t really care too much. I’m reading “Robins” right now, and it’s readable, but it’s not really that good. Just OK.
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 11, 2022 17:38:07 GMT -5
Next, Tim Drake.
I started reading Batman comics again (after a hiatus of several years) when Knightfall started. Tim Drake was already Robin. And I liked him! Quite a bit. I read the Robin series for a very long time (fifty or sixty issues, I think) and it was a very enjoyable series.
But I don’t really like him anymore. With all the Robins likely to pop up in various storylines several times a year, he always seems the most unnecessary. Damian is now Robin, and that makes sense. Dick is Nightwing (or Grayson). Jason Todd is the Red Hood (who I don’t like, but at least he has his own identity). Steph is the Spoiler.
And Tim is Red Robin.
It stands for redundant.
He’s just taking up space in the Bat-Family comics and just doesn’t add much to any grouping that includes Dick, Jason and Damian.
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