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Post by Pharozonk on Apr 12, 2022 21:57:37 GMT -5
Anyone have any recs with where to start with Creepy and Eerie? Do either magazines have any particular runs/eras that are of note, or any to avoid as well?
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Post by Rags on Apr 12, 2022 22:05:16 GMT -5
If you can get the Archive Hardcovers, start with Vol 1 for each series. I did same with Vampirella
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 12, 2022 22:07:57 GMT -5
I’m far from an expert, but you don’t want to skip the early issues of Creepy. Mostly great art with a lot of it coming from EC alums. At least until Goodwin left as editor it was golden.
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Post by berkley on Apr 12, 2022 23:18:34 GMT -5
I just had a quick look for a web-page that I found useful several years ago when I was trying to figure out which issues I wanted, but I can't find it: a nice over-view of all the Warren mags, with credits and brief reviews for most issues. If I ever remember the name of it I'll post it here. But if you know which artists or creators you like, any checklist should help, or comics.org.
If I remember, both Eerie and Creepy started off strong, but in each series there was a brief interlude fairly early on during which they reprinted a lot of stories from the earlier issues. Glancing at comics.org, it seems to have happened around the late #20s for Creepy and the late #10s for Eerie. But there's still new material mixed in with the reprints, so you might not want to skip those anyway. Honestly, I think both series were pretty consistent until maybe their last 20 issues or so, when many of my favourite artists appeared less frequently - but of course your tastes may differ.
I'd also suggest giving Vampirella a look: I ignored it for a long time, but they used many of the same artists as the other Warren mags, so if they're the main attraction, as they were for me, you might find Vampirella worth considerating even if you're not particularly interested in the lead character. It's true that the bulk of each issue was taken up with a longish Vampirella story, but many of them featured artists like José Gonzales or, less often, Gonzalo Mayo, so if you like their work, you might find you want to try that mag too.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 12, 2022 23:43:02 GMT -5
The reprint era started when Archie Goodwin left as editor. Warren was having some major cash-flow problems at the time. I don’t remember enough about the mags to say when they turned it around, but it was by the time that Vampirella started.
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Post by MDG on Apr 13, 2022 9:01:14 GMT -5
To repeat what people have said, it starts very strong. After Goodwin leaves as editor (and main writer), there are lots of reprints and the EC and EC-level artists are replaced by folks like Tony Tallarico or newcomers. It gets to the point where Rocke Mastroserio becomes a highlight. I think Goodwin comes back around the time Vampirella launches.
There are some good points in the mid-70s, especially if you're a fan of the Spanish artists, but there are runs where you're guaranteed Wrightson and/or Corben + folks like Toth, Wood, Severin, and Crandall still show up once in a while. And Infantino does some nice work after he leaves DC, usually with A-list inkers.
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Post by tarkintino on Apr 13, 2022 9:54:23 GMT -5
If you can get the Archive Hardcovers, start with Vol 1 for each series. I did same with Vampirella ^Best suggestion. Eerie and Creepy both burst out of the gates making a new statement on illustrated horror and suspense, and did not pull any punches with the kind of stories and art used, so any newcomer to the magazines would do well with the archives. |
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Post by mikelmidnight on Apr 13, 2022 12:20:20 GMT -5
I'd also suggest giving Vampirella a look: I ignored it for a long time, but they used many of the same artists as the other Warren mags, so if they're the main attraction, as they were for me, you might find Vampirella worth considerating even if you're not particularly interested in the lead character. It's true that the bulk of each issue was taken up with a longish Vampirella story, but many of them featured artists like José Gonzales or, less often, Gonzalo Mayo, so if you like their work, you might find you want to try that mag too.
I disliked the early issues of Vampirella; she isn't much of a character yet, and the creative teams were B-list compared to the A-listers on the other books. I don't know when the transition happened, but I find the later issues campy and endearing.
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Post by badwolf on Apr 13, 2022 13:44:17 GMT -5
I'd also suggest giving Vampirella a look: I ignored it for a long time, but they used many of the same artists as the other Warren mags, so if they're the main attraction, as they were for me, you might find Vampirella worth considerating even if you're not particularly interested in the lead character. It's true that the bulk of each issue was taken up with a longish Vampirella story, but many of them featured artists like José Gonzales or, less often, Gonzalo Mayo, so if you like their work, you might find you want to try that mag too.
I disliked the early issues of Vampirella; she isn't much of a character yet, and the creative teams were B-list compared to the A-listers on the other books. I don't know when the transition happened, but I find the later issues campy and endearing.
Yeah, I was disappointed with the first archive volume. There are a few good artists but most of it was mediocre and some of the stories were incoherent. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 14:40:51 GMT -5
I thought this thread was about Icctrombone's entry in this week's Cover Contest.  |
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Post by shaxper on Apr 13, 2022 14:47:59 GMT -5
I obtain any issue of Creepy, Eerie, or Vampirella that I can find affordably so long as it was published in the 1970s. They never disappoint, and no reading order is required. The Vampirella lead feature is an ongoing storyline, but each installment does a good job of catching you up on what you've missed.
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Post by MDG on Apr 13, 2022 15:31:01 GMT -5
I obtain any issue of Creepy, Eerie, or Vampirella that I can find affordably so long as it was published in the 1970s.... Not the 60s? Or do they not show up affordably?
One thing I hated in the 70s was when they converted Eerie to all continuing series.
I bought a collection of the original Warren Vampirella stories, but it was a mess. The origin Forry Ackerman came up wrote the character into a corner right away, and the tone didn't work. Pretty soon, like with a lot of horror characters, writers had to 1) make her a "good" monster character, and 2) come up with someone (or was it an organization?) reeeeeealy evil as an antagonist.
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Post by tonebone on Apr 13, 2022 16:47:37 GMT -5
There are 3 crazy affordable collections.. one each for Berni Wrightson, Alex Toth, and Steve Ditko... if you want a sampling of some of the best. I think each hardcover is only about $11.  EDIT: Wrightson's "Jennifer" is a hell of a disturbing story. And it looks like there's a Richard Corben volume, too. |
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Post by badwolf on Apr 13, 2022 17:16:30 GMT -5
The Richard Corben volume is really good.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 13, 2022 21:09:48 GMT -5
I obtain any issue of Creepy, Eerie, or Vampirella that I can find affordably so long as it was published in the 1970s.... Not the 60s? Or do they not show up affordably?[/div I actually own all the '60s ones because I'm a completionist like that, but the big return to original content occurred in late 1969, so I just use 1970 as a more convenient "rounding-up" of sorts. In my mind, the post 1969 stuff is far more enjoyable than the early material published under Goodwin, even before the arrival of the Spanish artists in 1971. |
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