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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 8, 2022 4:26:26 GMT -5
Along the lines of martial arts, dance doesn't work at all in comics. The beauty of dance is in how one movement flows into another, then another, then another. Comics can show a succession of poses but it can't replicate the flow. Add in the difficultes mentioned earlier in conveying music, and you have to wonder who at Dell back in the '50s thought it was a good idea to adapt musicals.
Cei-U!
I summon the four-color fandango!
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Post by arfetto on Aug 8, 2022 10:01:13 GMT -5
I don't know much about dancing, but I was fascinated by it in a manga I read some time ago called Welcome to the Ballroom (the first two volumes of which are old enough to be considered "classic comics" as per the rules). Maybe the reality of dancing cannot be depicted accurately in comics, but I enjoyed this comic interpretation of it well enough to get immersed:   I feel the same about some racing manga. I am not a racer myself, but I really got into the intensity of the races on the page. Maybe it just helps not being too knowledgeable about things when you read comics about them haha. I would like to think a good artist can do a lot with a page, but there will always be limitations. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2022 12:54:01 GMT -5
Years ago, I bought some sports annuals at a jumble sale. They included Tiger and Victor. There were some sports strips in there, various sports.
I think football (or soccer, if you prefer) can be conveyed well in a comic. But then I think there are sports that just wouldn’t work on the page, such as golf or snooker. Then again, perhaps the right artist could do it.
I’ve been watching Chicago Fire on Netflix, and that made me think about how few firefighting comics there seem to be. But does that translate to the printed page?
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Post by arfetto on Aug 8, 2022 13:09:19 GMT -5
It isn't for everyone, but check out Firefighter! Daigo of Fire Company M (1995-1999) if you can find it.  |
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 8, 2022 15:29:58 GMT -5
Foreign accents in comic books. Never works for me. Characters like Gambit for instance where the writer throws in a french word or two in Gambit's dialogue or spells the word "The" as 'Ze". Sacre Bleu, it izz ze most painful to read, mon chere. You must have loved the Blackhawks, by gar. |
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Post by berkley on Aug 8, 2022 17:11:37 GMT -5
I find most comics derived from TV shows don't work for me. I need to see and hear the actors.
I think this is true for me too, for the most part. I'm trying to recall if there have been any exceptions but nothing comes to mind ... I probably haven't tried all that many, since I tend to steer clear of them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2022 18:51:37 GMT -5
I find most comics derived from TV shows don't work for me. I need to see and hear the actors.
I think this is true for me too, for the most part. I'm trying to recall if there have been any exceptions but nothing comes to mind ... I probably haven't tried all that many, since I tend to steer clear of them.
I quite enjoyed DC Comics’ Star Trek comics, they felt like “seasons” of the show. |
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Post by foxley on Aug 8, 2022 19:58:37 GMT -5
I find most comics derived from TV shows don't work for me. I need to see and hear the actors.
I think this is true for me too, for the most part. I'm trying to recall if there have been any exceptions but nothing comes to mind ... I probably haven't tried all that many, since I tend to steer clear of them.
I enjoyed 'Buffy Season 8' from Dark Horse, because it really felt like a continuation of the show: not just an emulation of what had been on TV, but how the series might have developed had it continued on. |
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Post by berkley on Aug 8, 2022 20:20:27 GMT -5
I think this is true for me too, for the most part. I'm trying to recall if there have been any exceptions but nothing comes to mind ... I probably haven't tried all that many, since I tend to steer clear of them.
I enjoyed 'Buffy Season 8' from Dark Horse, because it really felt like a continuation of the show: not just an emulation of what had been on TV, but how the series might have developed had it continued on. I read that when it came out and it's one of the misses I was thinking of: I agree that as far as the writing went, it felt like a continuation of the show, but it was the artwork that let it down for me. Not that I thought it was bad artwork, just that it didn't capture the feel of the characters, even though they were all recognisable. Not sure if a different artist would have helped or if, as Kirby101 said, it's a problem with the transfer from one visual medium to another. Anyway, I was left with the feeling that it might have worked better as a novel. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 8, 2022 21:56:03 GMT -5
I think Gulacy made martial arts work fairly well, but not most of the other artists involved. Frank McLaughlin could do it; but, he also had a black belt in judo. Too many artists have no familiarity with technique, so just doa basic imitation of poses. Dance is harder, again, because the artists are rarely familiar enough to convey the key elements of the movements. Picking the right moments, which let the brain fill in the rest, is the true art to combat or other motion scenes. This is from MOKF #39, the fight between Shen Kui, aka The Cat, and Shang Chi......      That issue conveyed much of the thrills of a kung fu movie. It was pretty much the pinnacle, for martial arts combat, in the series and Gulacy never really repeated it. At the same time, he was also doing James Bond and he succeeded well in capturing the wild stunts and the brutal fights, as well as the huge climactic battles. Frank McLaughlin used actual judo technique, in Judomaster, at Charlton....  It's more effective than most. He also included illustrations of judo techniques, in the comic.....  He did the same for Deadly hands of Kung Fu. |
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Post by chadwilliam on Aug 8, 2022 22:47:52 GMT -5
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 8, 2022 23:01:23 GMT -5
The most famous scream sound effect in films is the Wilhelm Scream. Used mostly when one is falling, it's been duped into hundreds of films, both live action and animation, for about a half century. How would you spell it? AAAOOOOW is my guess
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Post by zaku on Aug 9, 2022 3:11:43 GMT -5
About dance and martial arts fights, well, manga simply did them better. And Chinese manhua too. From "Batman: Hong Kong"  |
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Post by Confessor on Aug 9, 2022 6:22:19 GMT -5
The most famous scream sound effect in films is the Wilhelm Scream. Used mostly when one is falling, it's been duped into hundreds of films, both live action and animation, for about a half century. How would you spell it? AAAOOOOW is my guess The Wilhelm scream is all over the original Star Wars trilogy, to the point where, to my ears, it's almost as much a signature noise in the franchise as blaster bolts, TIE Fighter engines, or the ignition of a lightsaber. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 6:50:24 GMT -5
So, Confessor, I know you probably are the world’s biggest Roy of the Rovers fan, so does football translate to the printed page?  |
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