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Post by tartanphantom on Aug 27, 2021 15:04:41 GMT -5
Most of these books cost more than a quarter...
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Post by brutalis on Aug 27, 2021 15:48:49 GMT -5
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Post by tartanphantom on Aug 27, 2021 16:19:13 GMT -5
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I don't know man... I wouldn't be that harsh... there's been some good stuff in their line. Better than much of current-day Marvel & DC for sure. Cut my man just a wee bit of slack-- he likes what he likes, and it's his money. Heck, I know you're just kiddin' around.
Some people rag on me for collecting Treasure Chest and Chick Tracts... and I'm not even Catholic, OR radical Fundamentalist.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 16:46:38 GMT -5
This message brought to you by everyone's favorite Image Pimp. Image: the choice of non-discerning comic book addicts across the world! There was a radical change in content focus for Image at the turn of the century. In the 90s, it was little more than the equivalent of a vanity press for a small group of creators and their studios (that happened to sell gazillions of copies to those creator's fanbases). However, when most of that inner circle delegated creation of comics to studio-mates those sales declined, and Image started seeking out other books to publish, sometime recruiting veteran creators to create their own stuff (like Grell with Shaman's Tears) sometimes becoming the adopted home for series that had been running on their own for a while (Jeff Smith's Bone, TMNT, for example). This eventually lead to Image becoming more like a book publisher that simply published material for people than the publishing arm of content creators as Marvel and DC are. While some of those original studios still published through Image, others went elsewhere, but a host of diverse creators chose to publish through Image. The difference being-they weren't creating books FOR Image, or working for Image, they were creating their own books and contacting Image to publish their books or signing contracts with Image to produce books for them, much the way a writer would create a book and publish through Random House of Tor, but didn't create for Random House or Tor and didn't work for them. The fruits of this began to be seen in the first decade of the 21st century when Image's offerings diversified widely, some succeeded, some did not, but a lot of interesting books were put out that had less in common with Spawn or Youngblood than the typical Marvel or DC book did. That cane to fruition in the period between 2011 and 2015 where Image became the publisher of choice for many creators looking to do produce creator-owned material and looking for a publisher to bring that material to the market in the direct market. I would argue since that point, Image has become the choice of more discerning comic readers across the world, people who are looking for complete and engaging stories, with beginnings, middles and ends, and aren't just continuing to pastiche or do "professional fan fiction" using characters that were created decades ago and that aren't filler content to keep copyrights and trademarks active so they can be exploited in other media and for licensing money so the actual content becomes secondary or tertiary to other concerns in the eyes of the people who keep the other comic publishers operating and churning out stuff. That's begun to change again, as other publishing houses that aren't content creation houses have begun to emerge or evolve from other companies offering a wider array of choices (and varying quality of deals) to creators looking to find a publisher for their content (BOOM! Studios become an emerging rival to Image for that sector of the marketplace). Those 90s Image comics are a snapshot of the output of a fledgling publisher that made a huge first impression, but it neither typical nor representative of the publishers output as a whole any more than showing showing someone twenty Marvel Comics produced between 1994-1996 and saying this is what Marvel Comics is and everything the company ever was or will be can be seen in this output and then judging everyone who likes Marvel by those comics produced in that 2-3 year span. To borrow from another thread, that label for Image is a trope that is overused and inaccurate and needs to be laid to rest (not that Image comics form that early period are very good mind you-they're just not representative of Image comics as a whole or the tastes of folks who like to buy Image Comics on a regular basis). -M
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Post by brutalis on Aug 27, 2021 17:46:32 GMT -5
Icctrombone knows I just razzing him. He and everyone here should know by now that I am a STRONG advocate for buying whatever comic or series that you enjoy. I'm quite certain many of us have various "dubious" books in our collections which we SHOULD NOT have to explain to anyone. Icc razzes me for my westerns and war purchases and I give it tight back for his Image and Liefeld buys. It is all in the spirit of un and friendship and fellowship in being comic geeks. At the time I bought some Spawn. Savage Dragon, Shadowhawk, the Darkness and Witchblade. Along with early Liefeld at DC and Marvel. I have ALL the Savage Dragon run in the collected black and white omnibus versions. Plus lots of more of the current Image output of collected series. I enjoy Manifest Destiny and most all of Rick Remender's various series. So I am NOT condemning or criticizing or adding to the tired trope. Just teasing my brother from another mother.
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Post by spoon on Aug 27, 2021 18:48:13 GMT -5
I had a bunch of credit card reward points, so I bought The Golden Age Batman Omnibus vol. 9 and the Saga of the Swamp Thing Book Three TPB.
And just when I thought I had used most of my points, I got a bunch more points from a spending threshold for a special offer. So I could get another omnibus if I want to.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 27, 2021 20:09:22 GMT -5
All’s fair in love and comics. But seriously, most of the Image books that I bought I remember being decent. The worst of the bunch were the Liefeld books , despite all the smack that I’ve been talking. Maybe the best Liefeld book was Supreme. Even the stories before Alan Moore took over were entertaining
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 11:59:00 GMT -5
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 28, 2021 18:17:35 GMT -5
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 28, 2021 18:19:42 GMT -5
Just got this today. I enjoyed the issues that I have so far , so I figured to complete the run.
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Post by tartanphantom on Aug 28, 2021 20:10:01 GMT -5
Just got this today. I enjoyed the issues that I have so far , so I figured to complete the run.
I agree... It's a shame that it didn't run longer. I think it had potential for a non-super hero book.
Even the Vince Colletta inks aren't bad...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 20:14:33 GMT -5
Just got this today. I enjoyed the issues that I have so far , so I figured to complete the run. I agree... It's a shame that it didn't run longer. I think it had potential for a non-super hero book.
I would have liked to see what happened if this (and Star Hunters) had run long enough to fully tie into Moorcock's Eternal Champion cycle as Michelinie intended. -M
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 28, 2021 20:46:16 GMT -5
I think Colletta is unfairly maligned. He erased some backgrounds, not entire pages. John Byrne placed blank pages in an issue of Alpha Flight and no one said boo.
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Post by berkley on Aug 28, 2021 23:53:01 GMT -5
I think Colletta is unfairly maligned. He erased some backgrounds, not entire pages. John Byrne placed blank pages in an issue of Alpha Flight and no one said boo. Blank, backgroundless backgrounds were a problem with much of Sienkiewicz's Moon Knight run as well, until nar the end when he let himself go. I'll never condone Coletta's erasure of background characters, etc, but aesthetically his inking style on Thor in the 60s was beautiful - and effective. By the 70s, when he or his studio was working on Kirby's New Gods, I think he had lost it.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Aug 29, 2021 4:19:15 GMT -5
Just got this today. I enjoyed the issues that I have so far , so I figured to complete the run.
I agree... It's a shame that it didn't run longer. I think it had potential for a non-super hero book.
Even the Vince Colletta inks aren't bad...
Colletta's inks actually meshed pretty well with Vosburg's pencils. The art is one of the high points of the series, I think, given that four writers filed through its 8 issues. As I've noted before in other threads, I used to have the whole run back in the early 1980s, and despite its flaws I rather liked it. And now I wish DC would release a reprint volume. I mean, c'mon, if Skull the Slayer gets a tpb, why not Starfire?
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