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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 21:02:24 GMT -5
I like Lim's stuff on the Surfer issues I've read so far in the IG omnibus (mid/late 40s).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 21:04:57 GMT -5
I like Lim's stuff on the Surfer issues I've read so far in the IG omnibus (mid/late 40s). I liked his stuff circa 34-50 but was kind of over his art by 75. A good part of that may have been Ron Marz taking over as writer too so I wasn't enjoying the stories as much either. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 21:09:46 GMT -5
I like Lim's stuff on the Surfer issues I've read so far in the IG omnibus (mid/late 40s). I liked his stuff circa 34-50 but was kind of over his art by 75. A good part of that may have been Ron Marz taking over as writer too so I wasn't enjoying the stories as much either. -M Similarly, I may enjoy his art so much because I was expecting to hate the stories (I was lead to believe Silver Surfer sucked) but find them really enjoyable. |
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Post by fanboystranger on Nov 16, 2014 21:32:21 GMT -5
No, he definitely lost something. Loved his work on Cap, but then for a good decade, it was really sloppy, sub-Ron Lim kinda stuff. I think he may have lost an inker or something. His recent stuff is pretty solid, though.
(I mean post-Silver Surfer Lim, but he lost something during that run, too.)
I liked Lim's early stuff on Surfer, but as the run progressed it got worse in my estimation, mostly becausEI think he was working fast for bi-weekly issues and multiple titles through a good chunk of it. As for Garney, coincidentally, the only thing post-Cap I liked by him was the brief run on Surfer he did with I believe J.M. DeMatteis, but I could be misremembering that. -M No, that was right about the time that I thought Garney lost it. I was so psyched when I heard Jon Muth was coming on, but I was kinda disappointed by his work on SS, too. (Granted, it's Jon J Muth, so the standards are a lot higher.) |
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 16, 2014 22:16:43 GMT -5
 Garney was good on Thor. |
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 16, 2014 22:49:39 GMT -5
 Rick Veitch's saga of the original Bratpack murdered by Doctor Blasphemy after he calls into a radio show and causes the radio announcer to begin a poll on who else (besides himself) thinks the Bratpack should die. Fifty callers end up condemning the four teens to their grisly demise. Brutal and gritty.  Veitch at it again. A childless couple driving an old truck see a flaming object fall out of the sky. Upon investigation, they discover a small, incredibly powerful life inside. At that point Rick Veitch (Bratpack, Swamp Thing) terminates all similarities to the origin of Superman. What this unfortunate couple, George and Meryl, find is a fully developed, albeit small man with a rather belligerent attitude. He bites off George’s finger, burns down their house, and finally abducts the man by riding on his shoulders. Unbeknownst to the couple, ten years earlier in 1908 in Siberia, a lone rider was witness and unwilling participant to this little man’s genesis. Born to a giant woman, the newly emerged fetus was coated in molten rock and thrown it into the atmosphere. Now back on Earth and free of his rocky womb, the Maximortal is set to become America’s greatest comic book antihero.  3 issue mini-series with stories by James Robinson, Matt Wagner, Neil Gaiman, Steven Grant and more. Artists included Alex Ross, Darick Robertson, Kelley Jones, Mark Buckingham, Matt Wagner, Norm Breyfogle, Stan Woch, Val Mayerik and more. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 0:02:37 GMT -5
I liked Ron Lim's work at Silverwolf, but it was really amateur stuff, with a really rough-around-the-edges look. I'm kind of attracted to 80's homebrew comics though. A lot of them had that look. I know it's not good, but I gotta say I like it. Old Kevin Eastman is a good example of the look I'm talking about. It's a look I like not in spite of the flaws, but partially because of them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 6:51:10 GMT -5
Did anyone mention PAD's original X-Factor run? Or does that not count because it technically started in the late 80's? Peter David's run began with the September 1991 issue. I didn't like it at the time, but that's only because I loved the previous line-up and wasn't ready to accept something so radically different. Truly, I've never heard anyone offer anything but praise for David's run. Oh! I'm sorry. I thought it was the late 80's.  I need more of the original X-Factor (pre-PAD). I have, like, the first 4-6 issues or so, but the rest can be pretty pricey. Or, I should say, pricier than what I care to pay right now. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 17, 2014 6:59:13 GMT -5
I liked Ron Lim's work at Silverwolf, but it was really amateur stuff, with a really rough-around-the-edges look. I'm kind of attracted to 80's homebrew comics though. A lot of them had that look. I know it's not good, but I gotta say I like it. Old Kevin Eastman is a good example of the look I'm talking about. It's a look I like not in spite of the flaws, but partially because of them. I really enjoyed Ron Lims artwork but more especially his storytelling abilities. And he gets great praise for jumping in the middle of Infinity Gauntlet after George Perez left to do the terrible War Of the Gods mini at DC. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 7:30:38 GMT -5
They really need to collect the pre-PAD X-Factor in something more affordable than the Essentials. I'll be damned if I'm going to read in color art, in black and white. I cannot do it.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 17, 2014 7:34:43 GMT -5
They really need to collect the pre-PAD X-Factor in something more affordable than the Essentials. I'll be damned if I'm going to read in color art, in black and white. I cannot do it. Last year they started collection certain stories in color TPB. It's called the Epic line but they are cherry picking what is released. I like the essentials but I agree , color is best. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 7:36:45 GMT -5
They really need to collect the pre-PAD X-Factor in something more affordable than the Essentials. I'll be damned if I'm going to read in color art, in black and white. I cannot do it. Last year they started collection certain stories in color TPB. It's called the Epic line but they are cherry picking what is released. I like the essentials but I agree , color is best. They started collecting X-Factor, in color, in TPB?? |
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 17, 2014 7:39:42 GMT -5
I don't think so. They are collecting the more popular stories from over the years like The Starlin Warlock and other Top stories.
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Post by Randle-El on Nov 17, 2014 10:32:42 GMT -5
Peter David's run began with the September 1991 issue. I didn't like it at the time, but that's only because I loved the previous line-up and wasn't ready to accept something so radically different. Truly, I've never heard anyone offer anything but praise for David's run. Oh! I'm sorry. I thought it was the late 80's. I need more of the original X-Factor (pre-PAD). I have, like, the first 4-6 issues or so, but the rest can be pretty pricey. Or, I should say, pricier than what I care to pay right now. Really? I know that the early Apocalypse issues and the Archangel first appearance can fetch a few bucks, but I always thought the rest of them were standard dollar bin material. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 10:41:32 GMT -5
Oh! I'm sorry. I thought it was the late 80's. I need more of the original X-Factor (pre-PAD). I have, like, the first 4-6 issues or so, but the rest can be pretty pricey. Or, I should say, pricier than what I care to pay right now. Really? I know that the early Apocalypse issues and the Archangel first appearance can fetch a few bucks, but I always thought the rest of them were standard dollar bin material. You'd think, but no. They're pretty pricey. I think I found #4 at a pretty low grade for $22. I'm not willing to pay that. It doesn't mean that much to me. |
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