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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 18, 2022 15:55:13 GMT -5
You misspelled Croatia...
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Post by foxley on Dec 18, 2022 16:01:15 GMT -5
Comanche is the story of a young woman managing a ranch in Wyoming, with the help of the traditional mysterious stranger who's ruggedly handsome and good with a sixgun. His name is Red Dust, and he will quickly take over the series (although it retained its title). In Les Loups du Wyoming ("Wyoming's wolves") we are introduced to the meanest, cruelest, nastiest and foulest-smelling gang of brutes you can imagine: the Dobbs brothers and their partners. No mention of rape is made because Comanche was a series meant for kids, but every other crime we can think of, the Dobbs committed. And not only did they kill people for their meager belongings, they'd also take an evil pleasure in humiliating them first.
That looks awesome! Do you know if Comanche has ever been translated into English?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 18, 2022 17:00:24 GMT -5
Comanche is the story of a young woman managing a ranch in Wyoming, with the help of the traditional mysterious stranger who's ruggedly handsome and good with a sixgun. His name is Red Dust, and he will quickly take over the series (although it retained its title). In Les Loups du Wyoming ("Wyoming's wolves") we are introduced to the meanest, cruelest, nastiest and foulest-smelling gang of brutes you can imagine: the Dobbs brothers and their partners. No mention of rape is made because Comanche was a series meant for kids, but every other crime we can think of, the Dobbs committed. And not only did they kill people for their meager belongings, they'd also take an evil pleasure in humiliating them first.
That looks awesome! Do you know if Comanche has ever been translated into English? Alas, I don't think so. I hope I'm wrong, but I've never seen one.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 18, 2022 17:41:25 GMT -5
That looks awesome! Do you know if Comanche has ever been translated into English? Alas, I don't think so. I hope I'm wrong, but I've never seen one. That just means we need CCF Story Time so you can read it to us all in English.
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Post by commond on Dec 18, 2022 18:09:16 GMT -5
You're right on two counts: I missed your entry and anonymous hordes of aliens aren't eligible as noted in the Advance Warning thread.
Cei-U! Needs to go back and double check the Fifth Day thread!
Back to the drawing board, I'll replace it later today. Sorry for ratting you out!
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 18, 2022 20:24:00 GMT -5
# 7 The AmericansThe Authority # 13-16DC/ Wildstorm ( 2000)Writer:Mark MillarArtist: Frank QuitelyInker: Trevor ScottMark Millar took over the Authority title from Warren Ellis and turned up the gross factor to level 11. The Authority are the JLA version of the Wildstorm universe created by Jim Lee originally at Image comics and at this juncture, have set themselves up as a pre-emptive fighting force defying the world's governments. In this story arc, they are alerted to the reincarnation of their most powerful member and are searching the world for her form as a baby. There is also powers that be searching for the same baby but to kill her. They send out a team called the Americans , Avengers copycats. The Americans are the vilest versions of any doppelganger team ever published. We are introduced to them in Issue # 14 where they go to a hospital and the Commander , the Captain America of the group , rapes two nurses as Tank Man ( the Iron man copy) uses his repulser rays to kill a ward of newborn babies. Yeah, Disgusting. The Authority face off against them in the following 2 issues. The team has a Thor ( Storm god), Giant-Man ( Titan) the Wasp ( Hornet) and a Hulk copy who is unnamed. Read this at your own risk. A few points about the book:The creator of the superpowered beings is a character who’s called Jacob krigstein , an obvious Jack Kirby type character right down to his height and cigar smoking. The Commander character rapes 2 nurses and appears to possibly rape Apollo , the Superman copy, after he’s beaten. Other Avengers doppelgangers appear but are unnamed like Hawkeye, the Vision and Scarlet witch. Kriegsten creates all types of other superpowered beings to attack the rest of the planet that look to be like the X-men and Defenders. Millar and Garth Ennis are known for their x-rated approach to superheroes, I don't know who's worse.
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 18, 2022 21:59:55 GMT -5
7. Crime Syndicate of America (Justice League of America 29-30)"The Demon in the Mirror"* I’m pretty sure I read this story, one of the annual JLA-JSA team-ups, (or at least the first half of it) when it came out in the summer of 1964, because I was always aware of the CSA (clever, Gardner) when it was mentioned later on in letters pages and so on. I didn’t get to read the second part, though, until years later when I picked up a back issue somewhere. Of course, as a sucker for “alternate” teams and alternate histories, this one immediately rang the bell, from Fox’s little twists in the history of Earth-Three, a world with super-villains only: Columbus discovers Europe; British colonists revolted against the Americans; and President John Wilkes Booth was assassinated by Abe Lincoln, the famous actor. (Shades of the “eerie” JFK-Lincoln parallels that were the subject of every school playground in the wake of November 22, 1963.) What I also liked was getting to see the Id-versions of the JLA’s Big Five in amoral action, something you really didn’t get to see every other month as we would years later in comics’ Dark Ages. Even a comic rookie like ten-year-old me was able to figure out which of Earth-Three’s Mr. (and Ms.) Hydes corresponded to Earth-One’s Dr. Jekylls. And except for Superwoman, and perhaps Johnny Quick, though that bullet-shaped helmet was plenty nerdy, the CSA members looked quite unlike standard-issue superheroes or villains, which added to their creepy cachet. Ultraman looked about as smart as a bag of turnips in his pre-80s big-shoulders look; Power Ring, despite his obvious fashion sense, had a weird affectless stare; and Owlman, the oddest of all, looked like a deranged guy who’d cobbled together a Halloween costume ten minutes before the party he was hosting for the people who live in his head. Some of this was due to the charming peculiarities of Mike Sekowsky’s art, but I also like to think that Sekowsky was suggesting that something beyond normal super-villainy had taken hold of these guys. It was all really fairly standard Silver Age stuff, but despite my callowness, I was a reader of the between-the-lines variety, so the CSA always has tickled my fancy. * Sensation Comics 109
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 19, 2022 6:26:21 GMT -5
(...) the CSA (clever, Gardner) Heh, I'd never noticed that until you just pointed it out here.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 20, 2022 6:58:07 GMT -5
7. The Deadly DuoDr. Doom and Namor Fantastic Four #6, Marvel, 1962 Two people too arrogant to ever work with anybody else. My interest in this duo really comes from my early love of Super-Villain Team-Up.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 20, 2022 18:12:20 GMT -5
Playing catch-up 7. Sportsmaster, Lex Luthor, Joker, Chronos, Weather Wizard, Dr. Polaris, Matter Master, Felix Faust, Tattooed Man, & Amazo - The Supervillain Baseball Team (DC Super-Stars #10) I mean, c'mon. It's a whole passel of super-villains and super-heroes playing baseball. And, of course, the villains ultimately cheat. Because they're villains. No, it's not a very good story. And it's sillier than most. But it was one of the earlier comics I ever bought and it's a good kind of silly.
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Post by Rob Allen on Dec 20, 2022 19:40:34 GMT -5
Still catching up...
7. The Enforcers
Several others have highlighted them already, so I'm going to forgo images here. These guys are the classic Marvel street-level villains - ordinary humans with special attributes and/or abilities, which they use for criminal purposes. They're special enough to defeat most people, but not a match for real superhumans.
One thought that occurred to me recently: was Fancy Dan the first martial artist in Marvel comics?
Another thought that I think I posted once years ago - these guys have some interesting similarities to the group I posted yesterday, the Terrible Trio. The Trio's first appearance went on sale in November 1963; the Enforcers appeared four weeks later, in early December.
Both teams include: - one member who's a snappy dresser and tends to do the talking for the group (Fancy Dan, Handsome Harry). - one member who works with rope (Montana, Yogi Dakor). - one member who's very strong, not very smart, and named after a big, strong, not very smart animal (Ox, Bull Brogin).
Maybe the Terrible Trio were the first draft of the Enforcers.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 21, 2022 2:13:44 GMT -5
Still catching up... 7. The EnforcersOne thought that occurred to me recently: was Fancy Dan the first martial artist in Marvel comics? The Mandarin was a Karate expert and beat Fancy Dan to the racks by a month. My impression of early Marvel is that everybody was a Judo expert. Certainly Mr. Fantastic and Dr. Strange had bragged about their Judo prowess. But I don't think they were alone in doing so.
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Post by Rob Allen on Dec 21, 2022 11:09:35 GMT -5
One thought that occurred to me recently: was Fancy Dan the first martial artist in Marvel comics? The Mandarin was a Karate expert and beat Fancy Dan to the racks by a month. My impression of early Marvel is that everybody was a Judo expert. Certainly Mr. Fantastic and Dr. Strange had bragged about their Judo prowess. But I don't think they were alone in doing so. True, but hand-to-hand combat prowess was Dan's primary schtick; it was incidental to Mandarin, Reed and Doc.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 21, 2022 15:00:01 GMT -5
Wow I was really behind. Lex Luthor, Alexi Luthor, and Ultraman - Stand ready to be amazed...I don't hate this choice. Yeah I hate Superman. But...I don't completely hate Earth-2 Supes. I've said before that I actually quite like the first year or so of Superman. Before he was a God-like power and was fighting against more mundane evils. It's the Weisinger era that completely killed Superman for me. So I bought this book for the Earth-2 connections. That said...I barely remember it. The Fearsome Five - I think we've seen them. Man...I can't even remember from earlier today. But I can remember my phone number from when I was a kid. Anyway...I find the NTT to be a super tough read now. But I'm glad they found friendship. Dreadnoks - At this point I'm 100% convinced driver1980 is messing with me. So very many licensed funnybooks. So little interest. Doctor Doom, Doctor Octopus, Absorbing Man, Enchantress, Ultron, Kang the Conqueror, Klaw, the Lizard, Molecule Man, and the Wrecking Crew - I know that I mentioned a few minutes ago that I hate Secret Wars. But it's never a bad time to reiterate ones hatred for Secret Wars. Masters of Evil version 4, aka Baron Helmut Zemo's Masters of Evil - I know I've read a trade of "Under Siege." But I really don't remember it. The Wrecking Crew really got around in various groups. Definitely joiners those boys. Charma and Grimbor - You'd be a Grim Bore too if you had to wander around half nekkid in chains. Did he steal Cosmic Boy's spare costume? I love both Cockrum and Grell (particularly Grell) but a lot of these costumes are...grim. The Trust - This was apparently ruled to be a false start. And I'll trust that judgment. I feel like you might be able to creatively rehabilitate this as there were individual members with personality as I recall. Joker and Clayface - I feel like I've read a reprint of this story. Probably in an 80-page Giant. Though I could be wrong. It's clear my memory kind of sucks now. So...yeah. I like me some Clayfaces though. The Terrible 5 - I've never actually laid eyes on an issue of that iteration of Captain Marvel. I suspect these guys are terrible though. Darth Vader and Boba Fett - Wow. How to just beg me to Court even more controversy after I've already slagged Superman and Secret Wars. I'll just say that Boba Fett has always been the biggest nothing-burger in Star Wars history and leave it there. Vader was cool though...before the prequels just kind of ruined him. I'll see myself out. The Masters of Evil II - The Jarvis Masters of Evil - Is there any Marvel villain that hasn't been a Master of Evil? And how does one master evil? Is there a university course? Are there also Bachelors of Evil? These are the things that keep me up at night. Attuma and Dr. Doom - I can no longer see the name Attuma without thinking of Arnold Schwarzenegger saying "It's not a tooma." (BTW Schwarzenegger is in my computer's spell-check dictionary...which I find interesting). I read Avengers semi-regularly at this time, but missed this issue. So I didn't have a tooma. THE SUICIDE SQUAD - I seriously considered these guys. I really liked the original Ostrander run of Suicide Squad. The Dobbs brothers gang - I really want to read Blueberry. But I just have never been able to parse where to start. And gathering up the various volumes seems daunting. Or maybe I'm just to lazy to do the work. Still...looks good. The Secret Six - I've never read anything by Gail Simone. There are personal reasons there. But good for them for setting up another team that appears to have nothing to do with the original. The Americans - I think I may have read the early issues of Millar's run on The Authority. I know that I have zero memory of it. So...I got nuthin. Dr. Doom and Namor - This was both a no-brainer and a very important step in the burgeoning Marvel Universe. So neat. It was a pretty silly story though.
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 21, 2022 16:10:55 GMT -5
Attuma and Dr. Doom - I can no longer see the name Attuma without thinking of Arnold Schwarzenegger saying "It's not a tooma." (BTW Schwarzenegger is in my computer's spell-check dictionary...which I find interesting). I read Avengers semi-regularly at this time, but missed this issue. So I didn't have a tooma. Back when I was working for the Washington Attorney General's Office (circa 1995-98), I was asked to test drive a voice recognition program. One day I was using it to write a letter to my old college roommate. I mentioned a guy we knew in our dorm that we nicknamed "Shithead," and the software's spell-checker interpreted it as "Schwarzenegger."
Cei-U! I summon the good old days!
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