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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 15:42:11 GMT -5
What's everyone's take on black metal and death metal? Not too keen on the imagery that goes with it.
I can't remember the artist, but he went on stage with his band and had a dead cat in a brown bag in his hand. And ever so often, he'd open the bag, and inhale strongly.
Not someone I'd invite for a cup of coffee.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 15:51:06 GMT -5
It took me a very long time to be able to tolerate any of the harsh vocals beyond a thrashy bark, but I got there. You mean a genre where everyone is basically ripping off this guy?   |
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Post by impulse on Feb 7, 2023 16:16:40 GMT -5
It took me a very long time to be able to tolerate any of the harsh vocals beyond a thrashy bark, but I got there. You mean a genre where everyone is basically ripping off this guy? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 16:35:01 GMT -5
What's everyone's take on black metal and death metal? Small doses only. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 17:29:54 GMT -5
And then there are those Cannibal Corpse album covers which feature, what can only be described as explicit corpse erotica.
I did leave an album lying around when some Jehovah Witnesses came in, just for the hell of it. But I've stopped listening to it, the gargling lyrics gets irritating.
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Post by impulse on Feb 7, 2023 17:32:06 GMT -5
Cannibal Corpse, known for such happy little ditties as "Hammer Smashed Face." There's a great instrument ukulele cover of that song on YouTube.
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Post by commond on Feb 7, 2023 18:11:11 GMT -5
What's everyone's take on black metal and death metal? Death metal in particular is a lengthy topic for me, roughly a quarter of the albums in my collection are probably some form of death metal. I didn't discover the genre until the early 2000's, but it totally reinspired my love of metal and everything seemed fresh again as both a listener and a guitar player. The stuff out of Finland really hooked me, with the "melodic death metal" style of Children of Bodom (though I would argue very few bands sounded like them, maybe like a Norther getting somewhat close) being my favorite, Laiho is still my co-favorite guitar player (along with George Lynch) of all time. And then the viking/folk inspired death metal of Ensiferum with Jari Mäenpää on vocals/lead guitar on the early albums before breaking off and doing Wintersun. Technical death metal really hooked me as well, it's just brilliant musicianship in my mind. What Muhammed Suiçmez accomplished with Necrophagist was groundbreaking, and other bands in that style I really love are Gorod and Psycroptic. Other favorites include Amon Amarth, Fleshgod Apocalypse, Kalmah, Nile, Obscura, Revocation, and Vader. As I worked my way back through earlier era material, I definitely came to also appreciate Death, though probably not as much appreciation for the Gothenburg bands like At the Gates and In Flames even though I appreciate their significance (again, I think the melodic death metal that came out of Finland just grabbed me more). Black metal has never really grabbed me as much musically, I'll listen to some Behemoth at times, but not much else. I had a co-worker who was heavily into Scandinavian metal bands and was always going to gigs any time they played in Tokyo. I can't remember the names of the bands as I wasn't into metal at the time, but it was heavy stuff. I mainly got into metal through Motorhead and other NWOBHM bands and after that i got into thrash. I suppose I'm similar to impulse in that much of the death metal I like is from the formative years. I listened to some Nihilist demo tapes the other day that I quite enjoyed. Recently, I find myself attracted to bands' demo tapes, and the early work in each metal genre be it thrash or death metal. I prefer that raw, unpolished sound and just wanna hear guys play their instruments. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 18:30:46 GMT -5
Death metal in particular is a lengthy topic for me, roughly a quarter of the albums in my collection are probably some form of death metal. I didn't discover the genre until the early 2000's, but it totally reinspired my love of metal and everything seemed fresh again as both a listener and a guitar player. The stuff out of Finland really hooked me, with the "melodic death metal" style of Children of Bodom (though I would argue very few bands sounded like them, maybe like a Norther getting somewhat close) being my favorite, Laiho is still my co-favorite guitar player (along with George Lynch) of all time. And then the viking/folk inspired death metal of Ensiferum with Jari Mäenpää on vocals/lead guitar on the early albums before breaking off and doing Wintersun. Technical death metal really hooked me as well, it's just brilliant musicianship in my mind. What Muhammed Suiçmez accomplished with Necrophagist was groundbreaking, and other bands in that style I really love are Gorod and Psycroptic. Other favorites include Amon Amarth, Fleshgod Apocalypse, Kalmah, Nile, Obscura, Revocation, and Vader. As I worked my way back through earlier era material, I definitely came to also appreciate Death, though probably not as much appreciation for the Gothenburg bands like At the Gates and In Flames even though I appreciate their significance (again, I think the melodic death metal that came out of Finland just grabbed me more). Black metal has never really grabbed me as much musically, I'll listen to some Behemoth at times, but not much else. I had a co-worker who was heavily into Scandinavian metal bands and was always going to gigs any time they played in Tokyo. I can't remember the names of the bands as I wasn't into metal at the time, but it was heavy stuff. I mainly got into metal through Motorhead and other NWOBHM bands and after that i got into thrash. I suppose I'm similar to impulse in that much of the death metal I like is from the formative years. I listened to some Nihilist demo tapes the other day that I quite enjoyed. Recently, I find myself attracted to bands' demo tapes, and the early work in each metal genre be it thrash or death metal. I prefer that raw, unpolished sound and just wanna hear guys play their instruments. I think that's also a testament to how great the "metal genre" is...there's so much diversity of styles and sub-genres, eras, etc. If you like "heavier" music at all, you're bound to find stuff you'll enjoy. For me, melodic and tech death metal often combine neoclassical lead guitar style (Yngwie Malmsteen school, also adopted later in thrash with guys like Marty Friedman and Alex Skolnick) with very heavy riffage that harkens back to classic thrash. The complexity of the music appeals to me, without sacrificing heaviness which is my problem with a lot of prog (I don't need 10 minute piano interludes between the crushing walls of guitar). Here's a clip of Vader for anyone interested, I like the thrashiness of the riffing on this one: |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 18:35:19 GMT -5
Diversity is the keyword. Also, I think about how global metal is. I bought a copy of Metal Hammer once, which had a free CD attached (wish I still had it). It was titled “Global Metal” or something. It had metal tunes from around the world, such as India, Europe, Africa, etc. It even had a band from Andorra!
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 7, 2023 18:47:01 GMT -5
Iron Maiden nominated for the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame; so they are continuing to try to court the Metal audience too, after Judas Priest went in, last year. If they do go in then it is time to induct Scorpions, too, especially in light of how there music was influential in the wave of changes that fell across the Eastern Bloc, in the late 80s and early 90s.
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Post by commond on Feb 7, 2023 18:52:23 GMT -5
It's interesting how you can listen to a metal band from any corner of the globe and it never feels as though the music has been appropriated. I just discovered that Australia has a strong metal scene, which makes sense I suppose given their long history of pub rock and hard rock bands like AC/DC.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 18:54:13 GMT -5
Diversity is the keyword. Also, I think about how global metal is. I bought a copy of Metal Hammer once, which had a free CD attached (wish I still had it). It was titled “Global Metal” or something. It had metal tunes from around the world, such as India, Europe, Africa, etc. It even had a band from Andorra! Not to mention the audiences! A metal concert in South America tends to be on a whole level than those up here in the States, the fans are insane (in an awesome way). |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 19:04:57 GMT -5
Iron Maiden nominated for the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame; so they are continuing to try to court the Metal audience too, after Judas Priest went in, last year. If they do go in then it is time to induct Scorpions, too, especially in light of how there music was influential in the wave of changes that fell across the Eastern Bloc, in the late 80s and early 90s. While I personally feel the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame has absolutely zero legitimacy, Iron Maiden is obviously of massive stature and significance to metal history and also agree the Scorpions should get much recognition. While 70's era will always be my favorite, they certainly did roll with the times thoughout the whole 80's. |
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Post by commond on Feb 7, 2023 19:30:02 GMT -5
Most Hall of Fames lose their way eventually, though I must say, I'm a fan of most of this year's nominees. I also think if you gave me three votes, I might pick Kate Bush, Joy Division/New Order, and Willie Nelson before Maiden.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 7, 2023 19:54:49 GMT -5
Most Hall of Fames lose their way eventually, though I must say, I'm a fan of most of this year's nominees. I also think if you gave me three votes, I might pick Kate Bush, Joy Division/New Order, and Willie Nelson before Maiden. I wonder if they would have even nominated Kate Bush, had Stranger Things not brought her new attention, from a new generation. I have always enjoyed her music (not so much her dance-related stuff); but she is not exactly an artist who would have been on their radar, without new attention and their wanting to increase the number of women. |
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