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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 11:38:13 GMT -5
Legend were a short-lived band who released an LP in 1979, Fröm the Fjörds, that was hugely influential on bands like Manilla Road. The production is low-fi, which personally I don't mind, and the vocals aren't the greatest, but man, the drumming, basslines and guitar riffs are like nothing else that was happening in the US in '79. This is amazing, I had never heard this before, huge thanks for posting. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2023 7:12:43 GMT -5
On this day 50 years ago, Kiss played their 1st show at the Coventry Club in Queens, NY. I do like the band very much, and Destroyer is one of my favourite albums. I attend a so-called ‘farewell gig’ here in 2017, but I am not sure they are done touring.  |
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Post by commond on Jan 30, 2023 7:28:35 GMT -5
In more of a hard rock vein, albeit with elements of proto-metal, are 1979 records from German band The Hand of Doom (Poisonoise) and New York's Riot (Narita). Highly recommended if you're a fan of the Scorpions' 70s work. Other rocking albums from 1979 include the self-titled album from the French band, Trust, and From the Black World by Japanese band, Nokemono.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2023 8:09:03 GMT -5
On this day 50 years ago, Kiss played their 1st show at the Coventry Club in Queens, NY. I do like the band very much, and Destroyer is one of my favourite albums. I attend a so-called ‘farewell gig’ here in 2017, but I am not sure they are done touring. KISS is the best!! The first 3 albums had a lot of good songs, but the Alive! versions are much more listenable to me. Whereas Destroyer I can really enjoy the recorded version of the songs on it in addition to the stuff that appeared on say Alive II. And does the cover artwork get much more iconic? BTW, the Coventry Club location is about a half hour from where I was born and spent my youngest years and where my parents grew up. Ace Frehley is my original guitar hero as well (as he was for many, particularly for those of us of a certain age), I just picked up this guitar in a trade last week with Ace in mind. It has rocked many KISS tunes already   |
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Post by impulse on Jan 30, 2023 12:16:38 GMT -5
Yeah, the Metallica Jethro Tull Grammys is one of those classic stories that will live in infamy. The bands took it well enough.
Any time I listen to power metal I end up usually just wanting to put on Nevermore which happened a lot last week ha. I am going to work through all their albums.
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Post by impulse on Jan 30, 2023 18:20:04 GMT -5
Hooooooooooo boy, that 90s Voivod was hard to listen to. The 80s albums mentioned were REALLY rough, and a lot of the lead work came off as blatant Metallica imitation (which I am fine with), but the raw aggression and roughness added a lot of power. The 90s stuff didn't really scratch the thrash itch, but it didn't stick the "thrash band pivoting to a mainstream" landing. Just... that was weird ha.
I was surprised thrash that raw and aggressive came out as early as 1984. Most of the Big 4 were a lot more melodic at the time, and even Slayer didn't get balls-to-the-wall furious until 1986. Was Voivod just under the radar at the times?
Dragonland is not too shabby so far. If I'm in the mood for power metal, this is my go to, even though a certain other song is their most-popular breakout. I have also always been amazed at how clean they play for how fast they go.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 30, 2023 21:32:55 GMT -5
Just for fun....
The Japanese metal band, Animetal, who did Metal versions of noted theme songs, from genre anime and live action series. here they cover the Gatchaman theme....
They are hampered by the fact that the song isn't very long (credit sequence) and they had to cycle it a couple of times.
The theme to Mazinger Z....
Just imagine if the Ramones had done more than just a cover of the Spider-Man 60s theme and had done a whole album, with covers of The Flintstones, The Jetsons, Beany & Cecil, etc.
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Post by impulse on Jan 30, 2023 22:27:04 GMT -5
Legend were a short-lived band who released an LP in 1979, Fröm the Fjörds, that was hugely influential on bands like Manilla Road. The production is low-fi, which personally I don't mind, and the vocals aren't the greatest, but man, the drumming, basslines and guitar riffs are like nothing else that was happening in the US in '79. Wow! I've never said this about another band before, but they sound A LOT like Captain Beyond. That's a good thing as far as I'm concerned. That is definitely going in the staylist. |
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Post by commond on Jan 31, 2023 9:28:04 GMT -5
Power and prog metal genres are always a little challenging to me, there are elements I tend to really like but if the music doesn't stay heavy enough (prog problem sometimes) or the tempo never slows down with interesting breakdowns and slower riffing (power problem sometimes) I tend to get bored. I also struggle with power metal. I'm not sure why as I'm a huge fan of NWOBHM and power metal seems like a natural progression of that sound, however I've always found thrash and death metal to be more appealing. There's a few bands I like -- Helloween, Blind Guardian, Running Wild, Savatage, Crimson Glory, and Manowar come to mind -- but in small doses. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 9:39:33 GMT -5
Power and prog metal genres are always a little challenging to me, there are elements I tend to really like but if the music doesn't stay heavy enough (prog problem sometimes) or the tempo never slows down with interesting breakdowns and slower riffing (power problem sometimes) I tend to get bored. I also struggle with power metal. I'm not sure why as I'm a huge fan of NWOBH and power metal seems like a natural progression of that sound, however I've always found thrash and death metal to be more appealing. There's a few bands I like -- Helloween, Blind Guardian, Running Wild, Savatage, Crimson Glory, and Manowar come to mind -- but in small doses. Those are pretty much identically the power metal bands I'll listen to on occasion. For me the fast picking power chords lose their heaviness, the tempo is just too fast and you don't get that percussive "thud" of a great heavy riff. I find not just in metal but music in general, the ear needs things mixed up throughout the course of a song, hence the term a "good hook" or unexpected tempo/melodic/key changes and things like that. "Pure" power metal gets fairly repetitive quickly. I'll use another example...a lot of people say Reign in Blood was Slayer's finest moment and South of Heaven slowed things down too much, but I actually think it sounds a little heavier as a result. |
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Post by impulse on Jan 31, 2023 9:49:36 GMT -5
I also struggle with power metal. I'm not sure why as I'm a huge fan of NWOBH and power metal seems like a natural progression of that sound, however I've always found thrash and death metal to be more appealing. There's a few bands I like -- Helloween, Blind Guardian, Running Wild, Savatage, Crimson Glory, and Manowar come to mind -- but in small doses. Those are pretty much identically the power metal bands I'll listen to on occasion. For me the fast picking power chords lose their heaviness, the tempo is just too fast and you don't get that percussive "thud" of a great heavy riff. I find not just in metal but music in general, the ear needs things mixed up throughout the course of a song, hence the term a "good hook" or unexpected tempo/melodic/key changes and things like that. "Pure" power metal gets fairly repetitive quickly. I'll use another example...a lot of people say Reign in Blood was Slayer's finest moment and South of Heaven slowed things down too much, but I actually think it sounds a little heavier as a result. Similar here. I tend to like contrast in many things, and music is no exception. It's part of why I like the classic thrash band who had intros, had their fast parts, but also have slow heavy groovy breakdown sections, or as Scott Ian referred to them in a video, "the mosh part." If you're just one speed all the time, it gets boring, and there is no sense of movement. If you start really fast, then go really slow, and you explode back into speed it feels like you cover a lot more ground. Slower grooves specifically give you a chance to find something to catch onto and get up to speed with song. It pulls you in. Case in point, South of Heaven is my favorite Slayer album by a lot. It still has fast songs, too, but it has slower, catchier groovier ones, too. I will say that while I initially struggled with Reign in Blood because it sounded like a wall of speed and sound, I eventually adjusted my internal clock to where I can get into the songs at their speed and hear the changes in tempo more. It took me a long time, and I still think South of Heaven is their best work. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 11:29:00 GMT -5
Power and prog metal genres are always a little challenging to me, there are elements I tend to really like but if the music doesn't stay heavy enough (prog problem sometimes) or the tempo never slows down with interesting breakdowns and slower riffing (power problem sometimes) I tend to get bored. I also struggle with power metal. I'm not sure why as I'm a huge fan of NWOBHM and power metal seems like a natural progression of that sound, however I've always found thrash and death metal to be more appealing. There's a few bands I like -- Helloween, Blind Guardian, Running Wild, Savatage, Crimson Glory, and Manowar come to mind -- but in small doses. I really like Manowar. But even with that said, most of their songs are filler. But they have more than a handful of non-filler songs, and their non-filler is really good. It helps that I can embrace the cheese. How desperate was Orson Welles in the '80s, to narrate two Manowar songs? I have to believe that he would have considered it beneath him under normal circumstances. To his credit, he didn't phone it in. Yeah, it's off the maligned-for-being-commercial Fighting The World, but the last half of Defender is great metal - a duet with Welles (granted, speaking, not singing) and Adams over that riff, with the bass and drums and guitar perfectly united in purpose of hammering that riff into your skull. The insanity of Master Of Revenge. The infectious anthems. I just got my heart racing. I think Fighting The World is going to be my workout album this evening, with some Triumph Of Steel to round out the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 11:31:50 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 11:37:14 GMT -5
I also struggle with power metal. I'm not sure why as I'm a huge fan of NWOBH and power metal seems like a natural progression of that sound, however I've always found thrash and death metal to be more appealing. There's a few bands I like -- Helloween, Blind Guardian, Running Wild, Savatage, Crimson Glory, and Manowar come to mind -- but in small doses. Those are pretty much identically the power metal bands I'll listen to on occasion. For me the fast picking power chords lose their heaviness, the tempo is just too fast and you don't get that percussive "thud" of a great heavy riff. I find not just in metal but music in general, the ear needs things mixed up throughout the course of a song, hence the term a "good hook" or unexpected tempo/melodic/key changes and things like that. "Pure" power metal gets fairly repetitive quickly. I'll use another example...a lot of people say Reign in Blood was Slayer's finest moment and South of Heaven slowed things down too much, but I actually think it sounds a little heavier as a result. I second (or third, by this point) South Of Heaven as Slayer's best. I heard the tracks from their first few records as they came out, and I was turned off enough by Araya's vocal style to make a point to tune them out from then on. His style was more "rushed shouting" than actual singing. A while back I gave them a another chance, and I'm glad I did. I particularly feel like I missed out on decades of being in awe of Dave Lombardo. Are we sure he's human? |
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Post by impulse on Jan 31, 2023 11:57:06 GMT -5
I personally like the occasionally-pitched bark Araya does on those 80s albums. Once I got accustomed to speed and could "scale" my internal clock up enough so I could hear the contrasts better I really enjoyed Slayer, with the caveat that they peaked HARD by 1990, and other than a handful to a smattering of stuff later on, largely dropped right off a cliff.
Though I admit I like their last two albums more than most of their 90s and 00s output. I might also be the only one that enjoyed their Black album attempt in Diabolus in Musica. I appreciated the more commercial approach as well as the variety for a change.
World Painted Blood is actually pretty damn good, and it's the last Slayer album to feature the original lineup. It has some filler, but there's a solid 35 minute album's worth of material there, and they backed off the speed on a lot of it.
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