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Post by spoon on Nov 11, 2023 13:20:59 GMT -5
Also, the runtime is only like 1 hour 45 minutes. It has very good pacing. I find too many MCU movies drag at some point. A lot have action sequences that keep going until they get tedious. The Marvel is not that type of movie. It's pacing works well.
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 11, 2023 16:57:02 GMT -5
Has anyone seen it yet? First Marvel film I've been excited for since Shang Chi, but I don't have the time this weekend. I saw it last night and I liked it a lot! Are there really stupid elements of the basic storyline? Yup. Lots of those! Is it any stupider than your average super-hero movie? Hell no! I liked it a lot more than, say, Black Panther or any Avengers movie with Thanos in it. Brie Larsen is great as Captain Marvel and I also really liked the actress that plays Kamala Khan even though I've never paid any attention to this Ms. Marvel character. I'm actually kind of interested in watching the Ms. Marvel TV show now. The Marvels gets a heck of a lot of extra points for only being one hour and forty-five minutes!
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Post by spoon on Nov 11, 2023 17:55:02 GMT -5
Has anyone seen it yet? First Marvel film I've been excited for since Shang Chi, but I don't have the time this weekend. I saw it last night and I liked it a lot! Are there really stupid elements of the basic storyline? Yup. Lots of those! Is it any stupider than your average super-hero movie? Hell no! I liked it a lot more than, say, Black Panther or any Avengers movie with Thanos in it. Brie Larsen is great as Captain Marvel and I also really liked the actress that plays Kamala Khan even though I've never paid any attention to this Ms. Marvel character. I'm actually of interested in watching the Ms. Marvel TV show now. The Marvels gets a heck of a lot of extra points for only being one hour and forty-five minutes! I agree with a lot of this. I would be a bit gentler in the phrasing about stupid elements, but I get the comment. I can think of a couple significant plot points that are supposed to be funny/goofy. But it's below the level of the Thor: Ragnarock or the average GOTG movie, and those got so much praise. What's refreshing to me is the quality of the script. Jokes in The Marvels feel more naturalistic. Aside from those couple of plot points, funny moments come across as reactions/jokes that could happen with actual people in the moment rather than a corny force joke someone puts in a superhero movie to hit a quota. Comparing to other post-Endgame movies, the Marvels is way better than Wakanda Forever or Quantumania or Black Widow. I didn't watch Shang Chi until it was on Disney+, but I actually got tired of the pacing about 20 minutes, so I can't say how the whole film compares to The Marvels. Although I liked the most recent GOTG movie, The Marvels has much better pacing.
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Post by Ricky Jackson on Nov 13, 2023 11:49:57 GMT -5
Rough, DC-like, opening week box office returns. Looking ahead, 2024 is going to be pretty quiet on the MCU front, with only Deadpool 3 and at most two TV series dropping. 2025 looks to be more table-setting stuff. So the important stuff isn't until 2026! Will be interesting to see if absence makes the heart grow fonder. So far the Kang mega storyline has been personally confusing AF, even for someone who prides himself on being able to follow and explain complex multiverse time travel storylines, it doesn't seem to be resonating with audiences, and they may have to recast the role to boot. Is there any room to pivot at all or are they in too deep?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 13, 2023 14:28:17 GMT -5
Rough, DC-like, opening week box office returns. Looking ahead, 2024 is going to be pretty quiet on the MCU front, with only Deadpool 3 and at most two TV series dropping. 2025 looks to be more table-setting stuff. So the important stuff isn't until 2026! Will be interesting to see if absence makes the heart grow fonder. So far the Kang mega storyline has been personally confusing AF, even for someone who prides himself on being able to follow and explain complex multiverse time travel storylines, it doesn't seem to be resonating with audiences, and they may have to recast the role to boot. Is there any room to pivot at all or are they in too deep? Deadpool is enough different (unless they change the formula) that it should be okay. It's possible that absence may help. I do think that super-hero fatigue has absolutely set in. Add to that that people still aren't going back to theaters in pre-Covid numbers and it could be a rough time. I'll likely hit a matinee of this when my youngest son is home for Thanksgiving break, but I'm not in a huge hurry. Not because of anything inherent in the film, but just because I honestly am pretty burnt out on superhero movies.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 14, 2023 7:15:02 GMT -5
Rough, DC-like, opening week box office returns. Looking ahead, 2024 is going to be pretty quiet on the MCU front, with only Deadpool 3 and at most two TV series dropping. 2025 looks to be more table-setting stuff. So the important stuff isn't until 2026! Will be interesting to see if absence makes the heart grow fonder. So far the Kang mega storyline has been personally confusing AF, even for someone who prides himself on being able to follow and explain complex multiverse time travel storylines, it doesn't seem to be resonating with audiences, and they may have to recast the role to boot. Is there any room to pivot at all or are they in too deep? Honestly, based on the end of the Loki show, they could be done with Kang if they wanted to be. I agree the multiverse stuff just isn't working, and that show didn't make it any better. I have the opportunity to go to see this today, not sure I want to pay the money... I'm pretty done with the Marvel movie formula.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 14, 2023 19:40:29 GMT -5
I saw it a few days ago. It was just okay. I found that Larsen tried to be more of a rounded human being in this film. The first film , she was cold and without personality. Plenty of girl power in this movie without any real male influence outside of Fury, I give it a 5 out of 10.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 13, 2024 21:06:38 GMT -5
The film recently made it to Disney + so I watched it over the past couple of days.
I can't say that I much cared for it. It didn't feel like an actual story; more like a succession of colourful action scenes with a little sitcom humour thrown in. I was quite confused as to what was supposed to be happening at times because we never seemed to wrap up a situation before moving on to the next crisis. (That singing dude was Carol's husband, for crying out loud... would it have been too much to learn what happened to him and his planet?)
The cast was good. I really like Brie Larson as Carol Danvers. Her bemused expression and the way she seems to control her exasperation when she's annoyed are pretty funny. It was the first time I saw Kamala Khan, and her youthful enthusiasm was a breath of fresh air. I also like the actresses who play the Rambeaus, both mother and daughter. The chemistry between the three heroines worked, but that's about the only thing that did for me.
The formula used in Love and Thunder, Quantumania and now The Marvels just doesn't work for me: it's pretty hard to feel involved in a plot that makes little overall sense, or to care about threats that will be dismissed without effort as soon as the run time is long enough. I don't ask a super-hero movie to make a lot of sense, but perhaps asking writers to come up with a strong story wouldn't be a bad idea before investing Lord knows how many millions?
How did Kamala's grandmother get her hands on a cosmic weapon? Why does another forgettable Marvel villain decide to go all evil and destroy worlds instead of, you know, asking for help (since we see at the end of the movie that the big problem facing the Kree could be solved in fifteen seconds with no effort)? How do you drain all the air from a planet in a few minutes through a tiny hole in space, without it reaching temperatures of a gazillion degrees? Where did Hala's toxic air go when new air was pumped in? Why does losing air caused massive Earthquakes? How can Marvel's refugee alien races (Asgardians and now Skrulls) all fit on a single ship? Who is that woman who magically appears and offers sanctuary to the Skrulls? (Just kidding, I know it's Valkyrie... but this film doesn't say it, nor tells us where she now lives or what's she's about!) How come the Kree villain overheats and explodes when using both magic bangles at the same time (like Ronan did when handling an infinity stone) while Monica and Kamala can do it without problem? How come Kamala still has powers without her bangle? Was that explained in her TV series? It sure wasn't here. Why do the heroes keep zapping the villain with power blasts when they know she just absorbs their energy? How did our sun recover from being partly drained? Why is the mid-credit scene character a bad CGI version of the fellow with neat make-up he was a few years ago? Why are we supposed to care for noble sacrifices that we don't build up toward and that don't involve a real price anyway?
You can guess that I found the film more frustrating than enjoyable. In all honestly, I'd much rather have dispensed from the Kree threat and had an hour and a half of Kamala's mom dealing with the superheroic nonsense her daughter keeps indulging in! That lady has more depth than half the rest of the cast put together.
No idea where Marvel is going with its shared universe. It looks like every new film is just a string of ideas pulled from a box with little to connect them together.
(And people say "The Dark World" was bad. At least it had a plot and actual emotion!)
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