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Post by DubipR on Oct 10, 2023 21:23:48 GMT -5
Nightwing and Starfire. I know he was destined to be with Babs but I really liked Dick and Kory together. Honestly its his best relationship, aside schtupping pretty much most of the DCU's female population. Dick and Barbara is another couple I had problems with. When first introduced, Babs was a PhD with several years' worth of work experience and Dick was still in high school. That kind of age difference doesn't matter much with older adults (my sister was 15 years older than her last husband) but seems pretty creepy when one partner is still in their teens. And who says they were destined to be together?
Cei-U! I summon the bat-cougar!
The Bat-Editors. Seems like they like to keep their relationships pretty much in the Bat-family and nothing else. Thus another problem in today's comics. There's no playing in other's sandboxes to make the books and characters interesting.
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Post by rberman on Oct 11, 2023 6:26:56 GMT -5
Dick and Barbara is another couple I had problems with. When first introduced, Babs was a PhD with several years' worth of work experience and Dick was still in high school. That kind of age difference doesn't matter much with older adults (my sister was 15 years older than her last husband) but seems pretty creepy when one partner is still in their teens. And who says they were destined to be together? Cei-U! I summon the bat-cougar!
The Bat-Editors. Seems like they like to keep their relationships pretty much in the Bat-family and nothing else. Thus another problem in today's comics. There's no playing in other's sandboxes to make the books and characters interesting. Wasn't segregation the usual rule? One exception would be the very early days of Marvel, when Stan was writing everything, and the characters constantly had cameos in each other's books. But once things solidified and the writer's bench enlarged, it seems that writers were discouraged from cross-overs. And it was usually that way at DC too. That's why the Marvel "Acts of Vengeance" event of the late 80s was a big deal, since villains were paired with heroes "belonging" to other villains. Another obvious exception was crossover-themed titles like The Brave and the Bold or Marvel Two-in-One which did indeed go away.
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 11, 2023 6:44:36 GMT -5
I think I did a topic about this once, DubipR and rberman. I feel that part of it is how all this event-driven, crossover-driven stuff precludes such “cross-pollination” today. How can Electro show up in a Captain America comic when Cap’s arc is deep into “Secret Cap Wars in Asgard Part X”? What chance do we have of the X-Men encountering Dr. Octopus when both Octopus and the X-Men are tied up in whatever 30-issue arc Marvel is doing this year? I wonder if that is part of it. The other one could be publishers not allowing it. Now, I do not believe “villain swapping” should EVER be routine. Less is more. If you start doing it all of the time, it becomes less special. “Villain swapping” should be akin to a special attraction in wrestling. But when it doesn’t seem to happen at all, or much, it’s frustrating. Back in the day, it was great to see Batman and The Flash “trade” villains (Doctor Double X and Rainbow Raider), or have Electro show up in a Captain America book. Now, such things seem rare. And it’s frustrating for me because I believe there are encounters that have never been done. I have never been able to find details of the Fantastic Four battling Juggernaut (I think Thing and Human Torch have had solo encounters with Juggernaut). Have the X-Men ever fought Doctor Octopus? Has Luke Cage ever taken on The Lizard? How about Iron Fist vs. Vulture? If there are never-before-seen encounters, let’s see them do it.
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Post by commond on Oct 11, 2023 7:24:30 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with writers changing a character's love interest. If I were an editor on a book and a new writer took over, I would give them carte blanche to change just about everything about the status quo so long as it's tasteful.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 11, 2023 8:00:21 GMT -5
I found the Gwen/ Norman breakup to be quite harsh. Did he have to throw her off the bridge ?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 11, 2023 8:38:40 GMT -5
I found the Gwen/ Norman breakup to be quite harsh. Did he have to throw her off the bridge ? They were never together. Never, ever, ever. Nope. Never happened. Pure fiction. Nope.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Oct 11, 2023 8:46:02 GMT -5
I found the Gwen/ Norman breakup to be quite harsh. Did he have to throw her off the bridge ? They were never together. Never, ever, ever. Nope. Never happened. Pure fiction. Nope. Egregiously bad fan-fiction.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2023 8:47:41 GMT -5
They were never together. Never, ever, ever. Nope. Never happened. Pure fiction. Nope. Egregiously bad fan-fiction. You are both correct. Modern perv writers are not empowered to create actual canon.
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Post by earl on Oct 11, 2023 19:27:46 GMT -5
I'd have to look up the issue but one I read last year when Hulk shows up where Betty is in the hospital after going crazy, she pretty much freaks out on him to leave her alone and oh yeah Modok shows up was excellent.
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