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Post by james on Dec 6, 2023 11:42:05 GMT -5
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Dec 6, 2023 12:08:35 GMT -5
You mean the things the used to pad page counts when stories came up short, deadlines bit them in the butt, or when they did annuals and giant size issues and didn't have enough content to fill them?
I love art and all, and I'd probably buy a book of pin ups for what it is, but if I am buying an issue for story, I'd rather have actual story pages, either new or reprint, used for those pages.
Besides, all we get for covers now are pin up pages, so what's to miss?
-M
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 6, 2023 12:12:14 GMT -5
Nope. They felt like a cheat. I wanted more story. And it's not like I was going to actually put them up on my wall.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 6, 2023 12:14:52 GMT -5
Depends on the context. One or two pages in an annual or giant size is one thing; something like Marvel Fanfare, where it was whole portfolios because they split the story across issues or didn't have content worthy of the format (or long enough) is quite another. I preferred them when they serve a purpose, like in the Daredevil annual, where it introduced you to his brownstone, the billy club and such or where you got an intro to the characters you might not know. Howard Chaykin used them to great effect in American Flagg to fill in information about the world, so you could understand what the heck was going on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2023 12:44:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2023 13:22:57 GMT -5
Thoughts and prayers for all those butchered Marvel Comics when these pin-up pages were torn out.....
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Post by james on Dec 6, 2023 14:08:04 GMT -5
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Post by berkley on Dec 7, 2023 21:58:53 GMT -5
I can't say I miss them, since I don't read any Marvel comics these days, but I didn't mind them when I was a small kid reading the earlier Marvel comics. In the 1970s they would have been out of place - the stories were already cut down to 17 pages!
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Post by kirby101 on Dec 7, 2023 23:06:14 GMT -5
I thought they were pretty cool.
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Post by MDG on Dec 8, 2023 9:53:35 GMT -5
I like when they capture the personality of the subject and aren't a generic shot or pose.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 8, 2023 10:21:25 GMT -5
I like when they capture the personality of the subject and aren't a generic shot or pose. I'm sorry. She has crazy Dust Bowl eyes.
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Post by kirby101 on Dec 8, 2023 11:32:58 GMT -5
I recently got the Taschen XLarge Spider-Man book. The pinups at the end of Annual #1 were great to see blown up. I particularly liked The Vulture and Sandman. Of course in that annual Ditko also gave each of the Sinister Sic their own splash page, which were all fantastic.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 8, 2023 11:52:55 GMT -5
I like when they capture the personality of the subject and aren't a generic shot or pose. Apologies to the die hard Kirby fans out there, but I've always thought that his female pin-ups looked like a freakshow gallery. I'm pretty sure that is not what Kirby was going for. In the subject of pin-up pages generally, I never much liked them. I'd rather have had more pages of story.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 8, 2023 11:53:23 GMT -5
You’re all acting like old men. Those pages are great, true believers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2023 11:56:26 GMT -5
Apologies to the die hard Kirby fans out there, but I've always thought that his female pin-ups looked like a freak show gallery. I'm pretty sure that is not what Kirby was going for.
He couldn't draw women like Liefeld can't draw feet.
If it was an elaborate machinery double-page spread or some freak like Modok, top marks there, but put a Kirby babe pin-up next to a Dave Stevens babe pin-up and there's no contest.....
*runs*
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