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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 18, 2023 6:53:13 GMT -5
My next three selections have already appeared multiple times on other people's lists, so I'm not going to expend a lot of effort rehashing the praise already heaped upon them. Instead I'll confine myself to explaining their personal significance to me, starting with 7. Red Sonja
I was late to the game when it came to Robert E. Howard, sword and sorcery, and Marvel's adaptations of same. It wasn't until the summer of 1975 and my parents' oft-mentioned purchase of school chum Rob Luettgen's comic book collection as a graduation gift (my brother got a car but that's a whine for another day) that I first encountered and immediately fell in love with Conan the Barbarian, Kull the Conqueror, and today's pick. I think in some ways the done-in-ones concocted by Roy Thomas and Clara Noto for Red are superior to the more sprawling storylines devised for Conan, perhaps because they weren't handcuffed by the REH canon. But the real appeal of Marvel Feature #1-7 and Red Sonja #1-10 is, as others have mentioned, the gorgeous artwork of the late Frank Thorne. Nothing else on the stands looked like it and it retains its visual delights to this very day, silly steel bikini notwithstanding. Cei-U! I summon the she-devil with a sword!
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 18, 2023 6:58:50 GMT -5
#7
Alpha Flight
First appearance: X-men # 120 ( 1979) Creators: Chris Claremont/ John Byrne Series covered : Alpha Flight 1-12 ( 1983) Series Team: John Byrne
After the introduction of the Vindicator in X-men # 109, the rest of the Canadian superteam was introduced about a year later to “ just survive a fight” with the X-men , as John Byrne was quoted as saying. In 1983 Byrne created their very first #1 on the urging of EIC Jim shooter. I semi enjoyed the first 12 issues only because it didn’t seem like Byrne had his heart in it. The series rarely had the entire team in every issue. It seemed more like a series of solo stories than a team book. In issue # 12 , they killed the Vindicator/ Guardian which killed my interest in the book. Being the Marvel zombie that i was, I kept buying the book until Byrne left with issue # 28. I loved the idea, so it makes my list, but the execution was lackluster. Guardian/Vindicator had a great visual.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 18, 2023 7:07:02 GMT -5
7. Uncle ScroogeNot breaking any new ground here, since Scrooge McDuck has already appeared (twice!) yesterday, but that means I don’t have to go into too many details about his background. I first became familiar with him in the 1970s when I went through an almost 2 year detour into funny animal (and Archie) comics, often picking up the regular Uncle Scrooge series (then published by Gold Key). Unbeknownst to me at the time was that the fact that these were reprints from the 1950s and ‘60s, and most of the stories were by cartoonist extraordinaire Carl Barks (again, I had no idea who that was back then). One of my all-time favorites then was Uncle Scrooge and the Golden Fleecing, a ‘Dynabrite’ comic published by Whitman (in 1978) on nicer paper with a cardstock cover at a slightly higher price: Like another personal favorite of the time, Donald Duck and the Golden Helmet (also by Barks – I covered that one in another 12 days event back in 2018), I read this one over and over again. To reiterate – actually sort of plagiarize – what I wrote about the Donald book, what I really like about these stories is that Barks was mainly telling adventure tales, with Uncle Scrooge, most often with his nephew Donald and his grandnephews Huey, Dewey and Louie in tow, travelling to distant, exotic lands in search of riches or whatnot. As with many entries this year, I ended up once more re-reading the above tale, but then a bunch more other Uncle Scrooge stories that I have in a number of reprint books acquired rather cheaply over the years. (specifically, this time around I read “Only a Poor Old Man” from the first solo issue of Uncle Scrooge – actually Dell Four Color #386, as well as two other stories collected in the first book pictured above; everything in the second book, which includes all three appearances of Scrooge’s rival miser Flintheart Glomgold in stories by Barks, plus the only Don Rosa story I’ve read so far, “Son of the Sun”; and “Back to the Klondike” from the second solo Uncle Scrooge issue of Dell Four Color, #456) However, given a discussion going on at another thread in this forum, I have to say that one thing that I often find jarring and a bit disappointing when reading many of these older Disney duck stories now as a middle-aged adult is the often casually racist depictions whenever the characters travel to some foreign land. They were far more common, and accepted, at the time when they appeared, but that doesn’t excuse them in any way. (It’s one of the reasons why this pick isn’t ranked higher on my list.) Otherwise, stepping back a bit and viewing this from the standpoint of (American) comics history, I think it’s worth noting that Uncle Scrooge is possibly one of the greatest spin-offs ever. He was introduced as a minor supporting character in Donald Duck comics, was then given his own series which possibly became more popular than the series it was spun off from (and Uncle Scrooge comics have been more or less continually in print since then, not just in the US but also in Europe, Central and South America, etc.), and eventually made his way to the cartoons.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2023 7:50:41 GMT -5
7. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine (1984)This is an old favorite of mine, and while I know some are not fond of the Milgrom art, I think the story is an excellent one and reflects how the X-Men continued to develop as characters in intriguing ways well after the Byrne years with Claremont. As the title indicates, it features Kitty who first appeared in Uncanny X-Men and Wolverine who famously first appeared in Incredible Hulk before becoming an X-Men regular. Prior to this, Kitty Pryde was both literally and in spirit the "teenager" on the team, and she was a fun enough character. But we had a glimpse into a much more mature version in the famous "Days of Future Past" storyline from late 1980 in the pages of X-Men. And that story in fact featured both Kitty and Wolverine in key roles with an iconic shot of the two on the cover of #141. I loved the idea that Kitty would continue to develop and have a lot of importance to the team. And in this 6-part mini-series, it's very much first and foremost a coming-of-age story for Kitty. She travels to Japan concerned that her father's life is at risk due to an organized crime group. A ninja sorcerer actually captures Kitty's soul and a transformation into a ninja type character happens, one that even faces off against Wolverine who has now shown up in Japan as well to help her after hearing the distress phone call she left at one point earlier. It's an intense story overall, it doesn't even fully feel like a straight-up superhero tale and I found it both very refreshing and intelligent. In addition to the journey Kitty's development takes, it continues to cast Wolverine in a mentor/protector light as well. No longer just a hot-headed fighter prone to berserker rage as often portayed in his earlier history, it continues to build on a character founded on honor and his connection to Japan as portrayed in the earlier excellent Frank Miller solo mini-series and in the main X-Men title itself. I think it's another reason why Wolverine's popularity continued to soar during this time, his character went well beyond the adamantium blades and cool costume. And when Kitty's soul becomes her's again at the end, she truly emerges as a mature and changed character, and a compelling one at that.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 18, 2023 8:01:43 GMT -5
7. GCPD #1-4, August-November 1996 By Chuck Dixon, Jim Aparo, and Bill Sienkeiwicz Spun off from various Batman comics over the years This one’s an indulgence among my entries this year. I’m not much of a fan of police stories, and I’m not that much into the Batman Family of characters, to be honest. But I do love the work of Jim Aparo, who was being shuffled off to the sidelines at this stage of his career. DC still kept him on contract, but didn’t feel confident about using him for high profile, ongoing series, using him on things like fill-in issues of BLACK CANARY, SUPERBOY AND THE RAVERS, and STEEL. This may have been the last use of Aparo’s talents in what could be considered “high-profile”, and even here, he was paired with the inks of Bill Sienkeiwicz, who inked several of Jim’s later efforts, bringing his dramatically different, more experimental and contemporary techniques in order to, hopefully, appeal to readers who might have found Aparo’s style dated. But there’s no hiding Jim’s distinctive page composition, his Dutch angles, his memorable use of body language, his use of “stage props” to provide layered depth to his pages. In the 90’s, many of the “hot” younger artists had grown up exclusively on superheroes: that’s what they loved, that’s what they knew how to draw, and that’s what they did draw. Many had zero interest in depicting the real world. To draw a man in a suit, they would draw a muscle man in spandex and then try to build a suit around him, with no care or comprehension of how fine clothes are crafted to define a silhouette, not to, say, emphasize powerful calf muscles. Aparo had worked in advertising, he understood fashion, he understood different body types, he understood that not everybody should be drawn based on the same ideal physique. Aparo, though, was unabashedly old school, and for him, a more down-to-earth, realistic setting was something he was very comfortable with, something he could do better than the hotshots like McFarlane, Liefeld, Lee. Guys like that would have turned down an assignment like GCPD, or shown themselves to be incapable of pulling it off. No, a DCU miniseries that minimizes the use of costumed adventurers and high tech environments needed a guy like Jim Aparo, and in 1996, there few guys like Jim still around the business. I don’t think GCPD was that much of a sales success at the time, but it did pave the way for later successes, such as the 40-issue GOTHAM CENTRAL series from 2003-2006 and the tv series GOTHAM. A good idea, and one I appreciated in its first incarnation as rendered by my favorite comic book artist, even if the genre isn’t a personal favorite.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 18, 2023 8:14:08 GMT -5
Welcome back supercat, you’re the new Hank Pym.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 18, 2023 9:33:20 GMT -5
#7 – Sir Edward Grey: Witchfinder ( In the Service of Angels: 2009) + ( Lost and Gone Forever: 2011) This is an example of my being a fan of the spin-off, but I have never read the main, parent series in which the spin-off originated. Sir Edward Grey first appeared in the pages of Mike Mignola's Hellboy and got his first solo mini-series in 2009. Grey is a nineteenth century paranormal investigator and there were two mini-series published before Jan 2014, and therefore eligible for this year's event. The first, In the Service of Angels, sees Grey in Victorian London investigating a series of grisly occult murders perpetrated by a supernatural bear-like creature, and in the second, Lost and Gone Forever, he travels to the American Wild West to find a missing nobleman, requiring him to battle an evil witch and a bunch of undead cowboys. Of the two mini-series, Lost and Gone Forever is by far my favourite, not least because it sees the marvellous John Severin on art chores. His highly detailed, but slightly unkept artwork is a perfect fit for a "Weird West" comic such as this. That said, Ben Stenbeck's art on In the Service of Angels is pretty nice too and very much in the Mignola signature style. Mignola's writing is really good, with each adventure beng a well-crafted detective yarn, with deliciously creepy supernatural trappings. Grey is an engaging character: a Victorian English gentleman, possessed of a stiff-upper lip, and pretty good in a fight. He certainly makes for a memorable hero. I have no interest in reading the main Hellboy comic, but these Witchfinder comics are a really fun read.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 18, 2023 10:26:59 GMT -5
Angry youth and alternative music comes alive! #7- HATE! (1990-2011)Alternative and small press comics in the 90s are some of my all time favorite reads. A huge resurgence of undergrounds and 'zines hit all over and in every genre. Music zines. Comic ashcans. Weird Art Trash comics. It was an amazing time. Some of the biggest names of that era are highly regarded as true artists of the medium. Names like Adrian Tomine, Daniel Clowes, and Chris Ware were on the best read lists of Time Magazine and other publications. Peter Bagge should've been on the list but his work stands the test of time of an all time underground/independent greats. Hate comes out and its blows the doors down. Bagge arrives on the small press scene at Fantagraphics with Neat Stuff back in 1985. Mainly short stories of various characters, like Girly Girl and Studs Kirby were angry youth and dark humor. But it was his stories of the Bradley, which were based a lot on Bagge's own family, were always the funniest of the lot. Neat Stuff ends and HATE! starts up. The comic revolves around Buddy Bradley and his life living in Seattle during the beginnings of the grunge scene. Trying to break into music, being a promoter and trying to find love and happiness, Buddy was the source of humor and pathos. At the same time, Buddy and his friends get into crazy antics but as Bagge got older, Buddy pulls a Frank King and ages as well. He gets a girlfriend, settles down, has a kid. All the meantime trying to become an adult. When this came out, I came into Hate halfway through the series when I was in high school. I scoured to find the earlier issues. I was into grunge music but not being grunge. But the anger of youth got to me. A perfect book for the 90s.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 18, 2023 11:03:57 GMT -5
7. Black PantherMany of the same choices keep popping up again and again! I wish I could have been more original, but in all honesty many secondary characters didn't floor me when they got their own series. Even when top-notch creators were involved. Much has been said about Don McGregor's run in Jungle Action, but there's another Black Panther arc that I really, really enjoyed (and no, it definitely wasn't Kirby's). It was Reginald Hudlin's and John Romita Jr's hard retcon, a new backstory for T'Challa and Wakanda that sidestepped all the continuity that had come before. And for once, however much of a traditionalist I may be, I thought it worked really well!!! In the days of old (including the McGregor era), Wakanda was a small African nation that had just recently developed a high level of technology, mostly thanks to T'Challa having studied abroad and being a brilliant technologist. In the new version, Wakanda was always a scientific and technological powerhouse; that's the version Marvel used in its movies. It opened a whole new vista of possibilities, storytelling-wise, and corrected the rather absurd idea that a society would go from thatch huts to antigravity shuttles in a decade or so. Klaw was also no longer a supervillain made of solidified sound, but a normal guy. The murder of King T'Chaka, meanwhile, had occurred in circumstances evoking modern political thrillers and not old jungle movies. Plus, T'Challa got a sister. All of that was a sharp departure from established history, but I'd say all the changes were for the better. The first story arc in that new series was a very good example of how an old series can be revamped thoroughly without driving old fans up the curtains!
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Dec 18, 2023 11:19:16 GMT -5
The Sixth Day of Christmas: Nah nah nah nah…BatgirlOriginally appearing in comics in the pages of Detective Comics (after the TV show), Barbara Gordon featured in back up series, anthology titles, and several series on her own, my favorite of these and my entry here is Batgirl: Year One by Scott Beatty, Chuck Dixon and the incomparable Marcos Martin in a tale showing Barbara’s journey to become Batgirl and find her place in Batman’s world. -M
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 18, 2023 12:18:52 GMT -5
7. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine (1984) This was almost on my list. I figured I'd only have one Wolverine entry, and considered this and the Miller series before ending up with Weapon X. An unfortunate choice, as this nicely doubles as a spin-off for two characters. Speaking of...
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 18, 2023 12:21:04 GMT -5
7. Wolverine
Marvel Comics Presents #72-84, 1991, by Barry Windsor-Smith When Hulk and Wendigo were fighting in Canada, the Canadian government turned to Weapon X, the agent known as Wolverine, armed with adamantium talons. The character was really a corporate creation, designed by Marvel's lead creatives Roy Thomas and John Romita, and given to Len Wein and Herb Trimpe to introduce in their Hulk mag. Len Wein and Dave Cockrum later found a place for the character amongst the new X-Men. Under Claremont's pen, he began to develop a personality as the jerk on the team. His character grew a bit when Byrne came on, and they allowed him to really unleash his savage side, but also start to question his own tactics. The first serious fleshing out of his character came in his own miniseries, bringing him to Japan, where Claremont and Miller portrayed him as a failed samurai, unable to achieve the discipline he strived for. He would later take on a frequent mentor role to young female heroes, starting with the Kitty Pryde and Wolverine series, by Claremont and Milgrim. And then he got his own ongoing series from Claremont and John Buscema that brought him to the Casablanca-like Madripoor in the identity of Patch. The final piece of the puzzle that was his character came from Barry Windsor-Smith, creating iconic and disturbing images of the terrible experiments he was subjected to that left him with those adamantium talons, now usually referred to as claws.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2023 13:02:04 GMT -5
real brief today, I have 2 airport runs and other Christmassy things to do, so forgive me
Day 6 Wolverine
Because I love his hairy ass. And much of the write-up will be repeated for his daughter soon. But what I can say quickly is my introduction to him in comicdom did not include X-Men. Or Weapon X. Or Japan. It was a soul-searching coming of age story recanted by his companion, Rose, in late 19th century / early 20th century, delightfully done, plenty drama which slowly built up to explain how he became the animal he is. Not sure how many others were introduced to him with a 6-issue series called 'Origin' but it remains one of my favourite to this day.
Also, when I did finally get his first 1982 mini-series, I found out I was pregnant. The books I went to the family doctor with.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 18, 2023 13:34:21 GMT -5
Angry youth and alternative music comes alive! #7- HATE! (1990-2011)Excuse my pedantry (and quite possibly my ignorance as well), but how is this a spin-off? Bradley was the star of his own strip in a number of issues of Neat Stuff, and he was also the star of his own strip in the pages of Hate, albeit with less emphasis on his family, admittedly. So, it's not like he was a co-star who broke out into his own starring strip.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 18, 2023 14:01:31 GMT -5
Angry youth and alternative music comes alive! #7- HATE! (1990-2011)Excuse my pedantry (and quite possibly my ignorance as well), but how is this a spin-off? Bradley was the star of his own strip in a number of issues of Neat Stuff, and he was also the star of his own strip in the pages of Hate, albeit with less emphasis on his family, admittedly. So, it's not like he was a co-star who broke out into his own starring strip. The feature that started in NEAT STUFF #1 was "The Bradleys", with Buddy living at home with his parents. Even if he later got his own masthead in some stories in later issues of NEAT STUFF, Buddy's own feature in HATE! is a spin-off of the one named after his whole family.
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