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Post by driver1980 on Jan 4, 2024 6:21:46 GMT -5
It’s understandable that human beings would wish to commemorate something, whether it be 20 years in a job, 30 years in a marriage, or something entertainment based. It can be fun on any level. The entertainment world is no exception. When a movie studio reaches 100 years of operations, they may commemorate it. Wrestling commemorates it. Comic book publishers do. I think it’s a good thing. It’s good for businesses commercially, and it can be fun for fans. I mean, we’ve all ordered WrestleMania XL on PPV, right? It won’t have escaped anyone’s attention that this year will mark 40 years since Secret Wars began publication. Next year will mark 40 years since Crisis on Infinite Earths began publication. Marvel and DC will be aware of that, and I would be surprised if they didn’t either re-release the arcs or do some sort of sequel/tie-in/whatever. Personally, I feel that those stories have been revisited enough times already. I would not have any appetite for another Crisis, but I understand the commercial realities. Yes, it would feel contrived, being more about a date in a calendar than because there’s any merit in revisiting that story. However, I understand that DC would see dollar signs, and so would Marvel. (Has anyone heard about any commemoration plans?) So, to my question: on a purely creative level, from your perspective as a comic reader, do you think DC and Marvel should commemorate those events? If so, should it be more about commercial releases such as a hardback edition, or should they also revisit the events in some sort of storyline? Would you personally have any appetite for a commemoration, whether it be “Untold Tales from Crisis on Infinite Earths” or a deluxe hardback re-release of Secret Wars? Widening the scope a little further, how do you feel about anniversaries in particular, and are there any that you are particularly looking forward to?
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Post by Calidore on Jan 4, 2024 7:53:44 GMT -5
In five years, January 2029, Popeye, Buck Rogers, and Tintin will all turn 100.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 4, 2024 7:58:40 GMT -5
I think there have been enough anniversaries lately, we don't need more. Maybe Marvel can do a 75th anniversary thing when it's time in like 10 years or so.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jan 4, 2024 9:03:57 GMT -5
All I ask Marvel is that if they decide to revisit the Age of Apocalypse for it's 30th anniversary next year they do better than they did at 10 years. And that's not a stab at Bachalo's art either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2024 11:11:47 GMT -5
Most anniversaries now are just gimmick-grabs with a tonne of variant covers....so I wasn't too excited when Amazing Spidey hit #900 or Wonder Woman hit #800....what's the point when you know you'll rather wait a few months to get them well below cover price at a Midtown Comics sale.
So meh....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2024 11:46:35 GMT -5
It won’t have escaped anyone’s attention that this year will mark 40 years since Secret Wars began publication. Next year will mark 40 years since Crisis on Infinite Earths began publication. Marvel and DC will be aware of that, and I would be surprised if they didn’t either re-release the arcs or do some sort of sequel/tie-in/whatever. Personally, I feel that those stories have been revisited enough times already. I would not have any appetite for another Crisis, but I understand the commercial realities. Yes, it would feel contrived, being more about a date in a calendar than because there’s any merit in revisiting that story. However, I understand that DC would see dollar signs, and so would Marvel. (Has anyone heard about any commemoration plans?) So, to my question: on a purely creative level, from your perspective as a comic reader, do you think DC and Marvel should commemorate those events? If so, should it be more about commercial releases such as a hardback edition, or should they also revisit the events in some sort of storyline? Would you personally have any appetite for a commemoration, whether it be “Untold Tales from Crisis on Infinite Earths” or a deluxe hardback re-release of Secret Wars? I believe Marvel is publishing Secret Wars issue-by-issue, month-by-month, this year. And doing the same thing for the first year of Amazing Spider-Man where Peter wore the symbiote costume. I never read Secret Wars, just because the premise sounds stupid. So I have no interest in any kind of revisit of that story. Otherwise, I won't necessarily avoid a comic because it revisits or reprints an older story. I prefer stories set in past eras of the big two, because nearly every direction they've taken their franchises in this century (jeez, it's almost a quarter gone now) has not been to my liking. I might pick up some of the Amazing Spider-Man reprints, since I don't have all of those issues in my collection (I haven't been looking for them, though. Defalco is competent and sometimes good, so I'll see if the mood strikes me when I see them on the stands). I like Absolute Editions and the like, and will generally upgrade my collection when an Absolute Edition is made available. I don't think an Absolute Edition of Crisis would be necessary for me, though.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jan 4, 2024 11:47:20 GMT -5
I think that commemoration should be just that and not a gimmick thing like Rags said. As an example using AoA again; I think a comic/magazine commemorating the 30 year anniversary with an inside look at who all had the ideas to do the story. The level that different people were involved in it. Who came up with the design ideas for the X-Men costumes and who would be fighting on what side and all that. So that fans of the story, like myself, could see how it all came together rather than AoA variant covers of the X-titles for four months, or something superficial like that.
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Post by tonebone on Jan 4, 2024 12:02:03 GMT -5
It’s understandable that human beings would wish to commemorate something, whether it be 20 years in a job, 30 years in a marriage, or something entertainment based. It can be fun on any level. The entertainment world is no exception. When a movie studio reaches 100 years of operations, they may commemorate it. Wrestling commemorates it. Comic book publishers do. I think it’s a good thing. It’s good for businesses commercially, and it can be fun for fans. I mean, we’ve all ordered WrestleMania XL on PPV, right? It won’t have escaped anyone’s attention that this year will mark 40 years since Secret Wars began publication. Next year will mark 40 years since Crisis on Infinite Earths began publication. Marvel and DC will be aware of that, and I would be surprised if they didn’t either re-release the arcs or do some sort of sequel/tie-in/whatever. Personally, I feel that those stories have been revisited enough times already. I would not have any appetite for another Crisis, but I understand the commercial realities. Yes, it would feel contrived, being more about a date in a calendar than because there’s any merit in revisiting that story. However, I understand that DC would see dollar signs, and so would Marvel. (Has anyone heard about any commemoration plans?) So, to my question: on a purely creative level, from your perspective as a comic reader, do you think DC and Marvel should commemorate those events? If so, should it be more about commercial releases such as a hardback edition, or should they also revisit the events in some sort of storyline? Would you personally have any appetite for a commemoration, whether it be “Untold Tales from Crisis on Infinite Earths” or a deluxe hardback re-release of Secret Wars? Widening the scope a little further, how do you feel about anniversaries in particular, and are there any that you are particularly looking forward to? I want to see how DC takes their DC logo, inside the number 50 from the Crisis covers, and puts that inside a 40 for their reissues.
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Post by tonebone on Jan 4, 2024 12:04:01 GMT -5
I think it's a big cheat when DC and Marvel constantly restart and renumber their long running series, and then roll out the old legacy numbering for "Issue 10,000", etc.
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Post by tarkintino on Jan 4, 2024 12:24:08 GMT -5
It won’t have escaped anyone’s attention that this year will mark 40 years since Secret Wars began publication. Next year will mark 40 years since Crisis on Infinite Earths began publication. Marvel and DC will be aware of that, and I would be surprised if they didn’t either re-release the arcs or do some sort of sequel/tie-in/whatever. Personally, I feel that those stories have been revisited enough times already. I would not have any appetite for another Crisis, but I understand the commercial realities. Innumerable major single issues, story arcs, introduction, character death, or talent debut has been explored and reissued for "anniversary" purposes at least since the 1960s, and even with the ever-shrinking market for books, I do not see DC or Marvel weaning themselves off that particular tit anytime soon. Its practically a cost-free way to earn money, and there's always someone new to comics who would benefit from some sort of anniversary issue / book, and then there's the long-time, die-hard collector who ends up buying the same collections over and over again, even when it offers nothing different than the earlier version. Having typed that, I would be interesting in browsing the forthcoming Crisis on Infinite Earths anniversary book, just to see if there's at least 20 additional pages of previously unpublished art, page layouts, and interviews. COIE is one the most important comics DC ever published, and was tremendously enjoyable, so a 40th anniversary book should be expected, and--as stated previously--at least get me to browse, if I do not buy it. I never read Secret Wars, just because the premise sounds stupid. So I have no interest in any kind of revisit of that story. Agreed. It stands as the symbol of 1980s noisy, mindless action, would-be "epic" which defined so much of the company's output for the then-remainder of the decade, and still influences some Marvel content to this day.
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Post by driver1980 on Jan 4, 2024 14:07:48 GMT -5
I think it's a big cheat when DC and Marvel constantly restart and renumber their long running series, and then roll out the old legacy numbering for "Issue 10,000", etc. I agree. Talk about wanting to eat your cake and then still have it too!
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