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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2024 16:36:30 GMT -5
I still say that 90%of comics lose their value over time.
You think that Mile High guy in Colorado would fill a warehouse with 10 million back issue comics if 90% of them were losing money?  
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 24, 2024 16:58:18 GMT -5
I’ve seen a lot of those books in dollar bins.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 24, 2024 16:59:47 GMT -5
I mean 90% of the comics being sold for 4.99 , you will find in dollar bins.
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Post by zaku on Jan 25, 2024 2:00:18 GMT -5
Stupid question that I don't know if I'll even be able to express correctly: remember the 90s comic book bubble? Now how much are those Spider-Man, Wildcats, Death of Superman books sold for hundreds of thousands valued today? Was it really worth the madness of serial hoarders that pervaded those years? And even if they were valued at good figures, what's the point of an investment that you have to wait more than thirty years to get the proceeds?
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 25, 2024 7:01:57 GMT -5
Stupid question that I don't know if I'll even be able to express correctly: remember the 90s comic book bubble? Now how much are those Spider-Man, Wildcats, Death of Superman books sold for hundreds of thousands valued today? Was it really worth the madness of serial hoarders that pervaded those years? And even if they were valued at good figures, what's the point of an investment that you have to wait more than thirty years to get the proceeds? Not really a stupid question. It’s actually worthy of its own thread. Maybe people can talk about the comics from that era that still garner high prices. The obvious books that lost most of their value are Image and Valiant books. |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 25, 2024 7:43:38 GMT -5
I still say that 90%of comics lose their value over time. I think the tipping point for that was when the standard price for floppies hit $1, so the mid-80s or so. At that point, books either went up or they are eventually consigned to dollar bins.
Do you mean 90% of issues or 90% of individual books?
And then what's your definition of "value"? I picked up a bunch of Atom Age Dell sci-fis, westerns, and funny animal books over the past year that are "worth" $50-80 a piece, but I got them for $5-10 because there is no demand for them whatsoever these days. |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 25, 2024 7:45:03 GMT -5
I still say that 90%of comics lose their value over time. You think that Mile High guy in Colorado would fill a warehouse with 10 million back issue comics if 90% of them were losing money? You yourself have made great money flipping books that ultimately ended up relatively worthless. Being good at sales has little to do with the inherent worth of what you're buying and selling. |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 25, 2024 7:48:10 GMT -5
Stupid question that I don't know if I'll even be able to express correctly: remember the 90s comic book bubble? Now how much are those Spider-Man, Wildcats, Death of Superman books sold for hundreds of thousands valued today? Was it really worth the madness of serial hoarders that pervaded those years? And even if they were valued at good figures, what's the point of an investment that you have to wait more than thirty years to get the proceeds? I agree that this would make a fantastic thread of its own. Short answer is that, up until a few years ago, you couldn't give most of those books away, and then we hit a new bubble during Covid and many of those books became more valuable than ever. I'll confess to hoarding a few '90s books I picked up for a dollar a piece over the past two years to see if any of them would ultimately be worth selling. I ended up selling a couple of X-Men #281s for $10 a piece, which pretty much covered the price of the experiment. I suspect it all began with New Mutants #98. I think that was the first mass collected '90s book to go from dust-gathering dollar bin fodder to serious investment, virtually overnight. |
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Post by zaku on Jan 25, 2024 8:21:38 GMT -5
Out of curiosity I went looking for MacFarlane's 1990 Spider-Man issue #1, silver variant on Ebay. I looked for this particular issue only because a) I have it too b) they made people believe that you would pay for your children's college if you bought it c) I think it is one of the most representative examples of the speculative bubble in comics.
Well, a copy in fair condition sells for around €30 (around $32). Not exactly the mega-investment you were led to believe at the time. Also because I believe that there were people then who already paid more to get a copy.
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Post by zaku on Jan 25, 2024 8:25:51 GMT -5
Stupid question that I don't know if I'll even be able to express correctly: remember the 90s comic book bubble? Now how much are those Spider-Man, Wildcats, Death of Superman books sold for hundreds of thousands valued today? Was it really worth the madness of serial hoarders that pervaded those years? And even if they were valued at good figures, what's the point of an investment that you have to wait more than thirty years to get the proceeds? Not really a stupid question. It’s actually worthy of its own thread. Maybe people can talk about the comics from that era that still garner high prices. The obvious books that lost most of their value are Image and Valiant books. I doubt that one can make really good money trading comics except for a few exceptions (like Action Comics #1). Imagining that someone can make a good living as a comics "broker" seems a bit absurd to me. But in the 90s they really made you believe that wealth was there. |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 25, 2024 8:27:17 GMT -5
Out of curiosity I went looking for MacFarlane's 1990 Spider-Man issue #1, silver variant on Ebay. I looked for this particular issue only because a) I have it too b) they made people believe that you would pay for your children's college if you bought it c) I think it is one of the most representative examples of the speculative bubble in comics. Well, a copy in fair condition sells for around €30 (around $32). Not exactly the mega-investment you were led to believe at the time. Also because I believe that there were people then who already paid more to get a copy. They were selling for significantly more a year ago. The entire market has once again begun deflating since that time. It will be interesting to see if 2000s books ever end up becoming desirable because that was when you saw some of the lowest print runs ever on mainstream books, some selling under 10,000 copies an issue. Imagine one of those books suddenly becoming a key! |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 25, 2024 8:28:46 GMT -5
Not really a stupid question. It’s actually worthy of its own thread. Maybe people can talk about the comics from that era that still garner high prices. The obvious books that lost most of their value are Image and Valiant books. I doubt that one can make really good money trading comics except for a few exceptions (like Action Comics #1). Imagining that someone can make a good living as a comics "broker" seems a bit absurd to me. But in the 90s they really made you believe that wealth was there. I made over $20,000 casually selling books on ebay in 2020 part time. I'm not saying I could do it again this year. The market was in the right place, and I had the right books. But there is money to be made out there if you are smart, patient, and lucky. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 25, 2024 8:35:21 GMT -5
I doubt that one can make really good money trading comics except for a few exceptions (like Action Comics #1). Imagining that someone can make a good living as a comics "broker" seems a bit absurd to me. But in the 90s they really made you believe that wealth was there. I made over $20,000 casually selling books on ebay in 2020 part time. I'm not saying I could do it again this year. The market was in the right place, and I had the right books. But there is money to be made out there if you are smart, patient, and lucky. So selling those Youngbloods really paid off... |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 25, 2024 8:36:56 GMT -5
I made over $20,000 casually selling books on ebay in 2020 part time. I'm not saying I could do it again this year. The market was in the right place, and I had the right books. But there is money to be made out there if you are smart, patient, and lucky. So selling those Youngbloods really paid off... You joke, but I definitely picked up three copies of Youngblood #2 for the first appearance of Prophet  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 25, 2024 8:39:49 GMT -5
I saw a blurb that said that that Movie might not happen. During the strike ,the lead actor was attached to another project. I haven't heard another word from Liefeld in his podcasts mentioning it.
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