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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 8, 2024 19:35:24 GMT -5
He had a cameo in X-Men annual #8, discussing Florida weather with Michael Golden! And he wasn't fazed at all by the mutants chasing the Impossible Man through the Marvel offices.
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Post by berkley on Feb 8, 2024 20:08:35 GMT -5
He was after my time as a Marvel reader so I don't know anything apart from bits and pieces of info I've picked up online. I wasn't impressed by the quote from him that someone posted in the Stan Lee thread but I wouldn't let that stop me from reading one of his comics. Even though I'm not a big war story fan, I might try The Nam sometime, especially since Michael Golden was the artist.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 8, 2024 20:26:12 GMT -5
He was after my time as a Marvel reader so I don't know anything apart from bits and pieces of info I've picked up online. I wasn't impressed by the quote from him that someone posted in the Stan Lee thread but I wouldn't let that stop me from reading one of his comics. Even though I'm not a big war story fan, I might try The Nam sometime, especially since Michael Golden was the artist. I heartily recommend the Golden issues of The Nam. It was quite unlike any other comic at the time. More like Platoon than an action story.
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 8, 2024 20:28:57 GMT -5
Hama was the second artist to draw Iron Fist, in Marvel Premiere #16-19, which is why I had him sign my Essential Iron Fist when he was tabling at Emerald City years ago. He did a completely credible job, though it's hard to say how much inker Dick Giordano had to do with its polish. That aside, I only know him as an editor.
Cei-U! I summon the pleasant fella!
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Post by berkley on Feb 8, 2024 20:33:49 GMT -5
Hama was the second artist to draw Iron Fist, in Marvel Premiere #16-19, which is why I had him sign my Essential Iron Fist when he was tabling at Emerald City years ago. He did a completely credible job, though it's hard to say how much inker Dick Giordano had to do with its polish. That aside, I only know him as an editor. Cei-U! I summon the pleasant fella!
I'm pretty sure I have some of those comics, now that you mention it, since I think I'm only missing one or two of the Marvel Premiere Iron Fist issues, so I probably have read them, though not in quite a few years. But if I remember, I liked most of the artwork that came before the Claremont/Byrne run so I probably liked Hama's work there.
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Post by berkley on Feb 8, 2024 20:34:57 GMT -5
He was after my time as a Marvel reader so I don't know anything apart from bits and pieces of info I've picked up online. I wasn't impressed by the quote from him that someone posted in the Stan Lee thread but I wouldn't let that stop me from reading one of his comics. Even though I'm not a big war story fan, I might try The Nam sometime, especially since Michael Golden was the artist. I heartily recommend the Golden issues of The Nam. It was quite unlike any other comic at the time. More like Platoon than an action story. Sold! Actually, I thnk I have some of the back issues already, bought on your recommendation a few years ago.
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Post by commond on Feb 8, 2024 20:36:49 GMT -5
Larry didn’t write the ‘Nam. Doug Murray wrote the Golden issues. Hama was the editor.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 9, 2024 0:28:33 GMT -5
Well, I've been singing his praises; but, he was hardly someone who was a superstar, beyond GI JOE toy fandom. In comics, he was a bit more unsung; but, I think he had notable accomplishments and was a good utility player. He was best as an editor; but, he was a fairly solid and reliable writer and similar as an artist, but better than some of the regular artists working during the Shooter and DeFalco years, who weren't top tier stars.
Back in the day, I read about the first 8 or 9 issues of GI JOE and no more. It was okay, but not up there with Sgt Rock, Willy Schultz or Enemy Ace. It was there to sell toys and the characters were kind of cardboard, the art nondescript but functional and the stories reasonably well done. However, it wasn't realistic enough for me, as somone who read a lot of military history, watched a lot of war movies and read war comics, and had gotten a Navy ROTC scholarship to go to college. So, Hama wasn't a name that made me grab a comic.
In my collecting days, I picked up most of Atlas/Seaboard's line and he did some work there (Planet of the Vampires, I think, though don't quote me) and I had seen at least one Iron Fist that he drew.
Flash forward to later years and I actually read some of the material he shepherded, as an editor and they were either really good, or a good attempt. I discovered A sailor's Story, in college and it was one of the best depictions I saw of Navy life, in any medium. It was Sam Glanzman; but, Hama got him working at Marvel, on Savage Tales, which led to doing the graphic novel, based on his USS Stevens stories, which were semi-autobiographical. He also edited The 'Nam, though it was a long while before I read any of that.
I started doing the GI JOE reviews, as a lark, after some discussion about the toys and looking at some other stuff. Nothing about Hama, specifically, drew me to it, other than the knowledge that he was the main writer and helped develop the back stories for the toy characters. However, in reading the series, it's actually really entertaining and I am surprised by that, as I figured my interest would wane, after I got through the issues I owned. It's far from perfect and some issue are better than others and I like to poke fun at the fantasy world aspect of it; but, even then I have to admit there is a level of craft in the writing and Hama has a nice mix of authentic military and fantasy military heroes. It was perfect for the Reagan 80s and the stories hold up pretty well. I also discovered that he was slowly developing some of the characters, though not all of them, as many were treated as background characters (when does Grunt get his own story, hunh?). Still, he has real story arcs going, real emotions on display, plenty of humor at the center and edges, depending on the story, and a good eye for a decent action plot. I just finished a story that is entirely set in the air, in a dogfight, raging over a city, between two excellent pilots. It isn't quite Aces High or Enemy Ace; but it can fly with something like Top Gun....minus the sex.
The issues where Hama contributes art, especially with Steve Leialoha doing the inking, are really a cut above and that silent issue really works well. It had me wishing he was the regular artist.
Savage Tales was actually a really good anthology of adventure stories, mixing different genres and Hama got a lot of really good people, writers and artists, involved. That led to The Nam, which, especially for Marvel, was really well done (especially the first year, but even later, with Wayne Vansant doing more traditional illustration).
Hama was one of those guys who could do just about anything in comics and do it well, but not at the superstar flashy level. He was more of a good solid team player, who suited up and did his job and let others take the spotlight. He is one of the people at marvel who has defended Shooter, in interviews, which puts him in pretty select company. He also worked at DC, prior to Marvel, was an assistant to Wally Wood (with Ralph Reese) was a Crusty Bunker and, yeah, is in MASH. He also has studied martial arts for years and could probably hurt you, if he was in a mood, but has no need to prove anything. I kind of think that was why he wasn't a superstar in comics, as he didn't seem to need to prove anything. He did his job, did it at a dependable level of quality and did it for a while. Guys like him are the backbone of a successful company or team.
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Post by foxley on Feb 9, 2024 1:30:43 GMT -5
Not a superstar, but a solid dependable workhorse, like codystarbuck said. I've never been aware of any particular 'fuss' regarding him. I got a chance to meet and speak to him at a con a few years back, and he comes across as a really down-to-earth and likable guy; definitely no 'superstar' ego. I got him to sign a Wulf the Barbarian #1 from Atlas which was one of his early professional jobs, and which he wrote, pencilled and did the cover art. He commented that he hadn't seen a copy of it for a while and seemed pleased that someone would bring him something so obscure to sign. I also got him to do me a sketch of Lady Jaye and it was the cheapest art I have ever bought from a comics professional, costing me $25 Australian (which, at current exchange rates, is about three shiny rocks and a piece of string US, I think ). Probably because he tends to think of himself as primarily a writer who is passable artist. As other have noted, his work as an editor may be even more important than his writing. Also, as a thank you for everything he had done for the G.I.Joe franchise, the facial sculpt for the Tunnel Rat figure (who is an EOD tech,like Hama had been in Vietnam) was modelled on Larry Hama. Which is pretty cool.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 9, 2024 6:18:48 GMT -5
He's also a musician!
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Post by EdoBosnar on Feb 9, 2024 7:32:23 GMT -5
Damn. Not bad. Also worthwhile to go directly to YouTube and follow the links to a few more of their songs.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Feb 9, 2024 9:01:26 GMT -5
I think the "fuss" the people have referred to here and why Hama has been the topic of conversation in some circles revolves around the relaunch of the G.I. Joe books at Image. When it was announced that the books were leaving IDW and going to Image, there was some uproar in the Joe community (something I only know about and hear things from because one of my circle of con friends who owns the vintage toy store here in town built his business selling G.I. Joe toys and is a presence at a lot of the Joe focused conventions in our region and there's almost as many Joe cons as there are comic cons in this region) because they were afraid Hama's run on the comic would come to an end and they were pretty vocal about their desire to see it continue and that many wouldn't jump on to the Image launch if Hama was not a part of it. This was followed by their celebration of the announcement Hama would be a part of it. For the Joe community, Hama is the iconic creator responsible for their beloved characters, similar to how many more casual comic fans view Stan Lee and the Marvel stuff. Outside the Joe community, this thread pretty much summarizes how Hama is viewed, but within the hardcore Joe community that perception is very different.
-M
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Post by commond on Feb 10, 2024 16:57:53 GMT -5
Speaking of G.J. Joe, I'm about 20 issues into Hama's IDW run. I started reading it as a lark, but it's actually an enjoyable comic just like the original series. Hama may not be one of the comic book greats, but he writes entertaining stories and that's the mark of a pro.
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Post by k7p5v on Feb 12, 2024 16:23:27 GMT -5
He wrote Wolverine #32-109 which I enjoyed for the most part. Some were hit or miss. The strongest issues for me was the combo of Hama and Silvestri. But I know for the most part Wolverine isn't popular here. Sad to hear that Wolverine isn't popular among the majority, but I'm in total agreement with you about Hama's team-up with Silvestri. For what it's worth, their swansong together on the series still gets me quite emotional after all these years (T^T)
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 13, 2024 0:47:16 GMT -5
I read some of the Wolverine stuff recently and enjoyed it... Patch is definitely better than solo Wolverine IMO. I don't really have much of an opinion of Larry Hama either way... GI Joe doesn't really interest me (too silly, though of course I watched the cartoon as a kid, and Codystarbuck's review thread is fascinating)... one title isn't really much to judge on.
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