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Post by impulse on Apr 18, 2024 7:28:59 GMT -5
Another good episode yesterday. Not as intense as episode 5, but great storytelling. No surprises plotwise to anyone who's familiar with Claremont's X-MEN run, but very enjoyable nonetheless.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 18, 2024 11:52:09 GMT -5
I watched the first 2 episodes.... it was ok, but not great, IMO. The art definitely has the right vibes, but the voice acting I found pretty blah... maybe I'm used to anime, but I thought it was very flat at times. Morph's sole purpose seems to be to create cameos... seems like the team is a bit overpowered so far.. but that's not a big deal if the plots are good. I'm interested to see if they really pull the trigger on the Magneto-rogue-Gambit love triangle... I feel like rogue and Gambit as a couple is a pretty core X-Men cartoon thing!
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 18, 2024 13:47:04 GMT -5
I also think Cable will come into play somehow. They didn't show him for nothing, but with as serious as this has been so far, I could see Beau not opting for an easy reset button. Either way, I'm interested in where they take it. I have mixed feelings on the voice acting. Well, less the acting and more the voices. I'm torn because I would have hoped all of the surviving voice actors would have come back (and quite a few did!). Many of the voices, while similar, sound somewhat off from the originals. On the other hand, most of the returning voice actors sound different, anyway. And of course they do. It's been 30 years. Rogue's is the most jarring and the only one I'd say sounds out of place for the character, but her acting is great. Minor nerd nitpick of "not all of the voices sound literally identical" aside, the performances are great. With the original, my issue was less the actors themselves as much as the obviously bad voice direction. It was pretty much of the George Lucas school of "Faster and more intense." Not that it was solely guilty of that as it was kind of the animation default, until Andrea Romano showed them how to do it, by actually directing the voice actors and not just having them read lines. She got performances out of people. Hanna-Barbera used to get that because they actors were all trained in radio and pretty much knew what they were doing, but H-B had good voice directors. The animation really used to bug me, because it was sooo stiff. Trying to emulate the look of 90s comics was just wrong in so many ways and you would think that some animator would have explained to Saban or whoever that you have to animate each line, so you need to streamline as much as possible. WB did that and Batman was almost as fluid as theatrical animation (not really, but far closer than what had passed for animation on tv, for decades). I might check out an episode here or there, but never watched it with any regularity until they started adapting classic storylines, like the birth of Phoenix and the Dark Phoenix Saga. It was nice to see the Starjammers and such and then the Hellfire Club, though the ending just doesn't really work without Jean dying. I never liked the alternate comic ending, with her de-powered, as it did seem a cop-out, just as Shooter argued. I haven't watched a Marvel-based animated series in ages (some video things, like Ultimate Avengers). I did like Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes quite a bit, except Iron Man sounded like Kevin Smith. I kept waiting for him to say "Snooch to the Nooch," or something. That;s what they should have done...one episode with Thor voiced by Jay Mewes and Thor and Iron Man hang around outside a convenience store, in costume, saying stupid stuff and selling weed.
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Post by impulse on Apr 18, 2024 17:56:23 GMT -5
In defense of the original show in the 90s, very little western animation I was aware of was remotely smooth and slick at the time, and compared to the cartoons of just a few years earlier, X-MEN looked incredible. Granted I was in the prime age demographic at the time, so seeing the comic pages on screen was amazing on its own.
I agree that looking back, the 90s episodes were very stiff by modern standards.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 23, 2024 20:41:29 GMT -5
I definitely liked the last couple better then the 1st two... maybe its the nostalglia kicking in, I'm not sure. The Motendo episode definitely made me smile. It does seem like they piling quite a few stories into one, it'll be interesting to see how it all turns out.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Apr 23, 2024 20:55:22 GMT -5
Was waiting for Mrs. MRP to have time to watch this so we could watch it together, and she had the day off today, so we watched the first 6 episodes in one go. I had avoided spoilers and comments of all sorts until after I watched them. Really enjoyed this and yes, episode 5 hit hard. I felt the series hit the ground running and has kept up a pretty good pace, pretty much all thriller and no filler, with the early episodes setting the tone and the status quo while setting up things for late episodes in a good way. Looking forward to the rest.
-M
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Post by Jesse on Apr 24, 2024 9:14:17 GMT -5
Beast quoting Fred Rogers!
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Post by senatortombstone on Apr 24, 2024 20:38:08 GMT -5
X-Men '92 is what got me interested in super-hero comics in the first place.
Until then my collection consisted only of Archie and Disney.
There was no reason to end it at episode 75.
I am glad to see it picked up again right where it left off - a mere 27 years later.
I have enjoyed all of the episodes so far.
My only complaint is that everything is happening so fast.
How do you contain Inferno in a single episode?
Storm loses her powers in episode 2 and gets them back in 5.
Didn't that take over 40 issues in the comics?
Xavier passes up the chance to be Shi'ar emperor and is on his way back to Earth already?
It seems like the writers wanted to do a lot and were worried that the show won't last long enough to spread these stories over a few seasons, so they are doing everything at once.
Here's what I would change:
The first season should have been 13 episodes.
The plot with Madelyn Prior should have been a four-part episode.
Storm getting her powers back should have been told gradually every episode, just like Professor X and Magneto's Savage Land adventure was in Season 2 of the original series.
The attack on Genosha should have been a two-part season finale with Gambit making the ultimate sacrifice at the end of part 2.
Professor X making his way back to Earth should be the gradual side story of season 2, which should lead into the Age of Apocalypse.
End of rant.
Ultimately, I like it and am glad I did not cancel my Disney Plus subscription.
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Post by impulse on Apr 25, 2024 11:34:38 GMT -5
While I think they occasionally go a little faster than I'd like, especially with Inferno, I actually like the faster pace in general. I feel like the season-long slow burn and larger number of episodes is kind of a dated format and would drag down the excitement. Though up to 12-13 is not a bad idea at all.
Last night's episode was good, too. It's interesting to see the plots they are adapting, and I am confident they will be done better here than in the comics.
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Post by Jesse on May 1, 2024 11:16:29 GMT -5
Episode 8 so many cameos! 🤘
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Post by impulse on May 3, 2024 10:21:42 GMT -5
Yes, what a great episode. I'm loving this show, and I don't mind the weekly release because it allows the impact to weigh for a while. Don't get me wrong, I hate it at the end of the episode, though.
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Post by impulse on May 9, 2024 7:52:53 GMT -5
This show continues to exceed my expectations. They captured the heaviness of the situation so well.
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Post by shaxper on May 10, 2024 6:17:20 GMT -5
It seems like the writers wanted to do a lot and were worried that the show won't last long enough to spread these stories over a few seasons, so they are doing everything at once. Only three episodes in, and I'm absolutely getting the same impression. What was even the point of introducing Madelyne Pryor? Her entire existence made for an eight minute complication. I understand that they are trying to get it all out there fast in case they don't get renewed (and, likely, to increase their chances of getting renewed), but the X-Men franchise's greatest strength has always those moments in between, where characters are given time to just react to all that they've been through. The Madelyne Pryor thing alone could have made for many episodes-worth of rich soul-searching for Madelyne, Jean, Scott, Logan, and maybe even some of the others watching from the sidelines. My deepest, wildest hope is that the show will eventually get approved to not only do another season, but also go back and create "special editions" of the existing episodes where scenes are added and extended to make the whole thing flow properly.
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Post by impulse on May 10, 2024 11:44:48 GMT -5
I won't spoil anything, but that first handful of episodes seems to mostly be reintroducing the show with some nostalgia and introducing some stuff to setup the main story of the season which they get to shortly after. The episodes feel longer and less rushed by the middle point.
I'm loving it so far. I liked the first few a lot, but everything since episode 5 has just been 🔥🔥🔥.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on May 10, 2024 11:51:44 GMT -5
In a world where everyone seems to complain about decompressed comic stories, I find it a bit odd to find complaints about a comic related series that goes hard, gets in, tells the story and gets out without dragging things out. I think the thing I like best about this series is how hard it goes and how little "decompression" there is in the stories. They do the thing and then go on to the next thing, building narrative momentum as they go.
-M
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