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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 7, 2024 19:53:38 GMT -5
I'd like this baffling obsession with Omnibuses to end. How did that become a thing? Who wants to hold a massive lump of a book like that? Masterwork sized collections of classic comics, without diabolically awful colouring, at sensible prices, please! LOTS of people like them, so there aren't going anywhere, but I agree. I have a couple I got when I found them on clearance, but they are very impractical, to the point where the value is not worth it in alot of way. I'm much more a fan of Marvel Epics and similar sided collections, where you get a nice chunk in a readable package for a good price. |
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Post by rich on Sept 8, 2024 1:52:01 GMT -5
I'd like this baffling obsession with Omnibuses to end. How did that become a thing? Who wants to hold a massive lump of a book like that? Masterwork sized collections of classic comics, without diabolically awful colouring, at sensible prices, please! LOTS of people like them, so there aren't going anywhere, but I agree. I have a couple I got when I found them on clearance, but they are very impractical, to the point where the value is not worth it in alot of way. I'm much more a fan of Marvel Epics and similar sided collections, where you get a nice chunk in a readable package for a good price. Oh yeah, I agree they must be selling well for there to be so many, but then again Marvel aren't really offering a proper alternative- multiple 250-300 page volumes with the same content, for example. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 8, 2024 7:10:55 GMT -5
The epic line is the perfect format IMHO.
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Post by rich on Sept 8, 2024 7:49:07 GMT -5
The epic line is the perfect format IMHO. Does it come in a hardcover format or just softcovers? Also, unless good binding is used we can't lay the books flat without breaking the spine (Marvel and DC have commonly used crappy hot-glued bindings in the past). |
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 8, 2024 8:24:21 GMT -5
The epic line is the perfect format IMHO. Does it come in a hardcover format or just softcovers? Also, unless good binding is used we can't lay the books flat without breaking the spine (Marvel and DC have commonly used crappy hot-glued bindings in the past). It's only SC so far. I've never had trouble with the binding, |
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Post by rich on Sept 8, 2024 8:30:47 GMT -5
Does it come in a hardcover format or just softcovers? Also, unless good binding is used we can't lay the books flat without breaking the spine (Marvel and DC have commonly used crappy hot-glued bindings in the past). It's only SC so far. I've never had trouble with the binding, Can it lay flat? I've not bought any Marvel trades in recent years, just some DC Absolutes. My interests tend towards 60s-80s, and it might take a few years for 'good' colour representations to become the norm... |
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 8, 2024 8:35:56 GMT -5
I remember laying it flat. How are the DC absolute books in that respect?
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Post by rich on Sept 8, 2024 8:50:14 GMT -5
Ooh, I have another good "what I'd like from the comics industry"- an outright ban on variant covers!
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Post by jtrw2024 on Sept 8, 2024 9:04:18 GMT -5
Ooh, I have another good "what I'd like from the comics industry"- an outright ban on variant covers! If there's an actual petition for this, you can put my name at the top of the list!  |
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Post by The Captain on Sept 8, 2024 9:09:52 GMT -5
Ooh, I have another good "what I'd like from the comics industry"- an outright ban on variant covers! I have no issue with variant covers. They aren't necessarily for me (although I am a sucker for a good Skottie Young variant), but not everything in the world has to be. Some people here love them (I believe @hots is one of our foremost connoisseurs) and that's great for her and people like her that they exist. That's the beauty of a wide-ranging hobby like this, in that there are people who adore Silver Age DC (I am not one of them) and those who prefer Bronze Age Marvel (that's my wheelhouse). Some people are drawn by the stories, some by the artwork, some by the characters, and some by the creator. There's a little something for everyone, and they all can exist in the same space. I want well-written stories and interior art that doesn't make me want to claw my eyeballs out. What's on the cover can be easily ignored, variant or otherwise. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 8, 2024 10:00:22 GMT -5
I'm fine with variant covers... they add to sales, which means there are more comics created for me to choose from. I personally am not willing to pay extra for them, but I'm happy to grab the one I like best if there are different options.
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Post by jtrw2024 on Sept 8, 2024 10:20:34 GMT -5
Ooh, I have another good "what I'd like from the comics industry"- an outright ban on variant covers! I have no issue with variant covers. They aren't necessarily for me (although I am a sucker for a good Skottie Young variant), but not everything in the world has to be. Some people here love them (I believe @hots is one of our foremost connoisseurs) and that's great for her and people like her that they exist. That's the beauty of a wide-ranging hobby like this, in that there are people who adore Silver Age DC (I am not one of them) and those who prefer Bronze Age Marvel (that's my wheelhouse). Some people are drawn by the stories, some by the artwork, some by the characters, and some by the creator. There's a little something for everyone, and they all can exist in the same space. I want well-written stories and interior art that doesn't make me want to claw my eyeballs out. What's on the cover can be easily ignored, variant or otherwise. My personal dislike for variants probably has to do with the amount of times I've accidentally ended up with something I already owned, or found one in my pull-list instead of the original cover. I guess that has more to do with me, and maybe the staff at my comicshop, than with the practice itself. I'd also probably find it easier to handle if they didn't actually say "variant cover" right there on the cover, then I could just judge them based on the cover-art itself. Obviously people do buy these things, so I guess it's cool that they're available to fans who want them. |
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Post by driver1980 on Sept 8, 2024 13:19:05 GMT -5
I have no issue with variant covers. They aren't necessarily for me (although I am a sucker for a good Skottie Young variant), but not everything in the world has to be. Some people here love them (I believe @hots is one of our foremost connoisseurs) and that's great for her and people like her that they exist. That's the beauty of a wide-ranging hobby like this, in that there are people who adore Silver Age DC (I am not one of them) and those who prefer Bronze Age Marvel (that's my wheelhouse). Some people are drawn by the stories, some by the artwork, some by the characters, and some by the creator. There's a little something for everyone, and they all can exist in the same space. I want well-written stories and interior art that doesn't make me want to claw my eyeballs out. What's on the cover can be easily ignored, variant or otherwise. My personal dislike for variants probably has to do with the amount of times I've accidentally ended up with something I already owned, or found one in my pull-list instead of the original cover. I guess that has more to do with me, and maybe the staff at my comicshop, than with the practice itself. I'd also probably find it easier to handle if they didn't actually say "variant cover" right there on the cover, then I could just judge them based on the cover-art itself. Obviously people do buy these things, so I guess it's cool that they're available to fans who want them. One issue that concerns me is the misleading sales tactics that could fool *some* people. Or get people’s hopes up. Years ago, I saw a picture on Twitter of Superman breaking a bank vault door - inside the vault was the Joker, and maybe others, from Batman ‘66. My initial thought was that they’d done a Superman/Batman ‘66 crossover, but it was merely a variant. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. So I don’t think I’ll fall for that again. But I do wonder, what about a new fan - or, say, a woman seeking a comic for her son. Imagine a scenario where such a person is a huge fan of the Hulk, and on their travels, they see a Wolverine comic with the Hulk on the cover. Such a person might pick up that comic expecting the Hulk in, but they’re in for a disappointment when they learn it’s merely a “Hulk variant”. I don’t get why you would have variants featuring characters who aren’t in the book. I mean, I have no issue with variants in and of themselves. If there’s a multi-issue Spidey/Kingpin arc, by all means showcase variants featuring Spidey, Kingpin, Mary Jane, black and white, etc. But why have an Iron Fist variant if Iron Fist isn’t even in the book? I don’t get that. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2024 13:30:11 GMT -5
I definitely do indulge in some variants...
But the novelty can get overbearing when a new book has over 50 of them...
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Post by jtrw2024 on Sept 8, 2024 13:46:58 GMT -5
One issue that concerns me is the misleading sales tactics that could fool *some* people. Or get people’s hopes up. Years ago, I saw a picture on Twitter of Superman breaking a bank vault door - inside the vault was the Joker, and maybe others, from Batman ‘66. My initial thought was that they’d done a Superman/Batman ‘66 crossover, but it was merely a variant. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. So I don’t think I’ll fall for that again. But I do wonder, what about a new fan - or, say, a woman seeking a comic for her son. Imagine a scenario where such a person is a huge fan of the Hulk, and on their travels, they see a Wolverine comic with the Hulk on the cover. Such a person might pick up that comic expecting the Hulk in, but they’re in for a disappointment when they learn it’s merely a “Hulk variant”. I don’t get why you would have variants featuring characters who aren’t in the book. I mean, I have no issue with variants in and of themselves. If there’s a multi-issue Spidey/Kingpin arc, by all means showcase variants featuring Spidey, Kingpin, Mary Jane, black and white, etc. But why have an Iron Fist variant if Iron Fist isn’t even in the book? I don’t get that. That's one of the things I don't like about variants. An iconic picture of Spider-man sticking to a wall, or hanging on a web is appropriate for a Spider-man book, but those mis-matched variants like the ones you described can be misleading, to both new and experienced collectors |
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