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Post by driver1980 on Sept 23, 2024 8:09:07 GMT -5
Years ago, I played a “game” of sorts with a friend based on how different the James Bond films would have been had certain actors started the role earlier or later. So, we’d come up with scenarios such as Timothy Dalton taking on the role in the mid-70s, or how different Licence to Kill would have been had Sean Connery or Roger Moore still been in the role.
It was interesting because it did result - hypothetically, of course - in very different films. Put Moore or Connery as rogue agents in Licence to Kill and it is a different film. Put Timothy Dalton in one of the quirkier Moore films and it’s a different film.
So, that gave me an idea: what if certain characters had debuted a decade earlier? Or a decade later? Or maybe several decades earlier or later? How different would they have been? How different would their origins have been?
I know the characters we love are a product of their era. I’m not sure really sure if gamma radiation origins are a thing now. Would Superman have been the moral crusader he originally was had he debuted in the Roaring Twenties? What would the Hulk’s origin have been had he been created in 1938 or 1939 instead of 1962?
What about costumes? If Spider-Man was debuting today in 2024, would his costume be red and blue, or might it be more akin to a spider’s?
Take Cap out of 1941 and have him created in 1981 or 1991 - is it still a super-soldier serum origin?
Perhaps a Hulk or Spider-Man created in 1938 or 1939 would have had a more horror-based origin involving experiments and serums.
I feel you can look at in a fun way, in so many different ways. That would include the other stuff. If Batman had debuted in 1984 or something, might the Batmobile have been a Chevrolet Camaro or something?
Would a Mighty Thor that debuted in 1992 rather than 1962 have even bothered with the whole Don Blake thing?
Anyway, if you feel inclined to post in this topic, have fun. What thoughts come to your mind? What do you think would have been different? Feel free also to think about the wider industry: for example, what would the industry have been like had Image Comics started in 1982 rather than 1992?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2024 8:24:06 GMT -5
One thing I've always loved about the Legion of Super-Heroes is that they are set 1,000 years in the future but often project the vibe of the decade they are published in. Like in the 60's, the clean cut youth group is going to the ice cream parlor. In the early 80's they are playing D&D with "updated tech".
And I've always thought about what if they had debuted in the Golden Age. I think the Sci-Fi storytelling of that era would be so fun to mesh with the teen superhero group from the future idea. Would WWII then also have an influence and they reflect that in the future as well with a "patriotic Earth" parallel against some alien worlds at war? Buy Earth bonds!!
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Post by mikelmidnight on Sept 23, 2024 11:55:56 GMT -5
I think that's a difficult game to figure out, because if these characters had not appeared in their original setting, the comics scene would be very different, so we can't really just plunk them down.
I like to play the opposite game: what if a series had appeared earlier, maybe in a different context? (imagine yourself a time-traveling plagiarist!)
What would Marvel continuity look like if The Invaders had appeared in the 1940s?
What would deconstructive comics, and Moore's career, look like if Watchmen had appeared in the 1970s (either with the original Charlton heroes, or the Dell heroes, or someone else)?
I always thought EC Comics suffered from not having continued storylines. Let's go back and present to Gaines (edited, censored, cleaned-up) scripts for ... say ... Babylon 5 or Game of Thrones ... and set Wally Wood on them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2024 15:51:37 GMT -5
I was thinking about both Ambush Bug and Deadpool.
If they debuted in the Silver Age, could they even have a fraction of the whacky charm and boundary pushing wit they're known for? Nah, they'd be very sanitized and campy at best (I say that with great love for Silver Age storytelling, but also being realistic at the boundaries of the era).
And yet, I return to the Golden Age. Assuming we could cross publishers as well in this thought exercise, I think a C.C. Beck driven Ambush Bug in the Captain Marvel books could fit right in. Not quite Giffen level subversive wit, but he's a colorful character that would fit right into that zany world, I could see him giving the Big Red Cheese some headaches.
And I think of Jack Cole's Plastic Man with Deadpool for some reason, again, you're not going to get 90's level violent humor, but the whole "seedy feel" of Cole's world could be an interesting playground for a more vintage take. Maybe instead of the "Merc With a Mouth", he's just be called "The Mouth" and he'd have some back story as a mercenary who was exposed to an enchantment that lets him recover from any injury. And he spouts off crazy stuff all the time driving everyone nuts including the people he works for.
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