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Post by badwolf on Nov 26, 2014 17:58:03 GMT -5
The Locust appeared in X-Men #24.
One of the few 60s comics I own.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 18:02:54 GMT -5
Mohawk Storm did it for me. I wasn't enjoying the book nearly as much as I had been, but Punk Storm was a signal that they were running out of ideas. I read sporadically to #200 or so and I never saw anything that made me think I had made a mistake. I like Mohawk Storm, she carried a new attitude, lead the team for a bit and even ditched all her plants in the attic and stuff. A great look that only made sense in the 80's. |
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Post by fuzzyblueelf on Nov 26, 2014 18:04:36 GMT -5
I like how Storm has a Mohawk and her regular powers, best combination.
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Post by badwolf on Nov 26, 2014 18:04:44 GMT -5
The Roy Thomas/Werner Roth issues with the giant locusts. (Seriously, apart from Banshee did anything from that era ever make a reappearance? Even when there were 417 different X-books? Sooooo bad.) Steve Englehart brought back Dominus in West Coast Avengers, but I think that's it. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 26, 2014 18:06:36 GMT -5
The Roy Thomas/Werner Roth issues with the giant locusts. (Seriously, apart from Banshee did anything from that era ever make a reappearance? Even when there were 417 different X-books? Sooooo bad.) Wait. Oh no. When did this happen??? I love Roy Thomas. Do I even want to know? UGH. I feel I need a moment to prepare for a huge let down. The original 66-issue run of The Uncanny X-Men has some very bad issues in the middle. I've read most issues up to #18 and every issue from about #25 on, but I've not read the Locust issue. But up to #40, the X-Men series is pretty bad at times. Some of it's pretty good, but when it's bad, it's about as bad as late Silver Age Marvel can get. The Conquistador issues are just awful. And there's an appearance by the Frankenstein Monster that is painful to read.
Roy seems to have been experimenting, seeing what worked and what didn't work for The X-Men. And some of those experiments were ... unfortunate.
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 26, 2014 18:10:03 GMT -5
Repti's taking about X-Men #24, a childhood favorite of mine. It was Roy's fifth issue as writer and he's not at his best yet, to put it kindly. The villain was The Locust, an entomologist who secretly created swarms of giant insects so he could become rich and famous by destroying them. As you can imagine, it's a fairly meh story but Roth at least delivers some nicely drawn action scenes of Our Heroes battling anatomically accurate bugs.
Cei-U!
I summon the economy-size can of Raid!
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Post by fanboystranger on Nov 26, 2014 18:17:29 GMT -5
The Roy Thomas/Werner Roth issues with the giant locusts. (Seriously, apart from Banshee did anything from that era ever make a reappearance? Even when there were 417 different X-books? Sooooo bad.) Ogre from Factor Three was a regular in Fabian Nicieza's Thunderbolts run, and the T-Bolts used an old Factor Three base. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 26, 2014 18:25:44 GMT -5
Thinking about the early issues of The X-Men, I wonder if it didn't jump the shark just about every issue. From the Beast's changing personality, to Xavier's rather inappropriate obsession with Jean, to Iceman's amazing power to create ice cream out of the air, to the Beast being worshipped by beatniks. And so on.
It's just a thing with the X-Men.
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Post by badwolf on Nov 26, 2014 18:33:41 GMT -5
Ain't nothin' but an X-thing!
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Post by fuzzyblueelf on Nov 26, 2014 18:37:42 GMT -5
Xavier was originally not much older than his students during the 60s it was only later they made him a similar age to Magneto, anywho he only said he loved Jean nothing perverted.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 19:05:05 GMT -5
Xavier was originally not much older than his students during the 60s it was only later they made him a similar age to Magneto, anywho he only said he loved Jean nothing perverted. It doesn't matter. Xavier was a teacher. He was in a role where he had no place to really be obsessed with one of his students. There's a line one should never cross. Just like the line that should have never been crossed when Nightcrawler and his sister were dating. And then when it happened, AGAIN, just recently. Because Claremont wrote that crap BACK INTO Nightcrawler's life. Jesus. Because it wasn't bad enough the first few times around. |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 26, 2014 19:06:40 GMT -5
And in general when they decided to make Time Travel a common thing for X-men I did say that I don't mind the Future X-men but I still think it's ridiculous that we have so many time travel plots and they are all basically the same thing "The future is so screwed up we have to come back to change it by killing someone or preventing someone's death!" I would concur that Claremont took this way too far, as did his successors. Days of Future Past was great, but to then get Rachel Summers, Nimrod, Cable, and Bishop, all traveling back in time to present day to avert some horrible future; it was way too much. |
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Post by fuzzyblueelf on Nov 26, 2014 19:08:46 GMT -5
Xavier was originally not much older than his students during the 60s it was only later they made him a similar age to Magneto, anywho he only said he loved Jean nothing perverted. It doesn't matter. Xavier was a teacher. He was in a role where he had no place to really be obsessed with one of his students. There's a line one should never cross. Just like the line that should have never been crossed when Nightcrawler and his sister were dating. And then when it happened, AGAIN, just recently. Because Claremont wrote that crap BACK INTO Nightcrawler's life. Jesus. Because it wasn't bad enough the first few times around. At least he didn't actually date her, or sleep with her. Like how they decided another certain Teacher figure should with one of his students which was actually an issue published in recent times. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 19:10:57 GMT -5
It doesn't matter. Xavier was a teacher. He was in a role where he had no place to really be obsessed with one of his students. There's a line one should never cross. Just like the line that should have never been crossed when Nightcrawler and his sister were dating. And then when it happened, AGAIN, just recently. Because Claremont wrote that crap BACK INTO Nightcrawler's life. Jesus. Because it wasn't bad enough the first few times around. At least he didn't actually date her, or sleep with her. Like how they decided another certain Teacher figure should with one of his students which was actually an issue published in recent times. I was quite pissed they did that to Wolfsbane. Oh, hey, I got an idea, X-SIDE-OF-THINGS, let's ruin ALLLL the classic characters so we can insert a bunch of new characters that no one gives a shit about because NONE of you will EVER spend ANY time developing ANY of them past a 30 issue team book. |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 26, 2014 19:11:54 GMT -5
But see, that is the point, after that moment in 1982 anything worth reading was usually somewhere else in the X-line. The X-Men book itself had been the gold standard and was no longer so. The X-Universe may still have been interesting, but the X-Men themselves, what was happening in the X-Men comic itself and not in another periphery title, really wasn't what was worth reading in the X-line. There may be stuff worth reading after that, but it's not in the X-Men comic book. The X-line maybe, not the X-Men though. Sure there were X-stories, but were they X-Men stories in the X-Men? -M I think the reason X-Men stopped working was that Claremont took eeach facet of the book that was working and farmed them out into different projects in order to better develop each individually. Kitty and Nightcrawler (the two most likable members of the team) going to Excalibur, New Mutants returning to the school for gifted youngsters concept so that the X-men title could charge boldly in a different direction, X-Factor providing a place for the original team to once again take center stage, etc. So the magic that was the X-Men continued and, to some extent, grew, but not in the pages where it started. I'm okay with that; I feel like we got more out of the expansion than we lost, but if you had a particular attachment to the X-Men title, then this would have been a disappointment. I first got into the X-Men in late 1989. It was always a given in my world that there were multiple X-titles, so I guess that's my bias in looking back at the initial decision to expand the franchise into a fleet of titles. |
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