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Post by tolworthy on Dec 2, 2014 16:24:18 GMT -5
[edited after further research] Does anyone have Sub-Mariner comics issues 14, 15 or 16? Especially the story "The Ghost of Sea Island" in issue 15? I'm discussing a controversial theory with a fan who's even crazier than me. We reckon that Namor could have had a brief liaison with a 16 year old Susan Storm in 1944 or 1945. I know this would be a shameless retcon, but humour me. I won't go into the evidence, but I'm wondering if this could fit anywhere into Namor's comic at the time? The Marvel Comics Database indicates that Namor had an apartment in New York at the time, where he could be reached by phone. In the story "The Ghost of Sea Island" he spent some time in a hotel (I mischievously wonder if this could be the guest house operated by Susan Storm's aunt in Fantastic Four 291?) marvel.wikia.com/Sub-Mariner_Comics_Vol_1_15Does anyone have any scans of that story?  |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 2, 2014 17:06:29 GMT -5
Darn it! Looks like that'd be in Vol. 4 of the Golden Age Namor Masterworks... I have 2 and 3. Not sure that'll ever happen, since Marvel seems to be focused on the early bronze age in the Masterworks these days.
I'm quite curious, though, so let us know what you come up with!
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Post by tolworthy on Dec 2, 2014 17:14:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the encouragement! I was afraid I'd only get eye rolling. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Dec 2, 2014 18:32:05 GMT -5
So a 16 year old Sue Storm circa WWII makes her an 86 year old hot mama now. Here comes a flock of eye rolls-DUCK!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 18:37:47 GMT -5
I certainly hope not! Namor is already creepy enough! I really wish that the Namor/Sue/Reed love triangle would have just been put away after Reed and Sue got married.
That said I'm always happy to see a new Tolworthy thread and I am a huge fan of your FF site (even if I don't agree with you on everything!)
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Post by tolworthy on Dec 3, 2014 3:31:58 GMT -5
So a 16 year old Sue Storm circa WWII makes her an 86 year old hot mama now. That would be the case if time had moved at a regular speed. But heroes began to age more slowly in 1968 (when Franklin was born), and I calculate that she de-aged from 42 to 28 in 1979 (FF 214). From 1989 (FF 328) we've been mostly following a clone team, while time for the real Sue has pretty much stopped. So I calculate that she's still a 30 year old hot mama now. I certainly hope not! Namor is already creepy enough! I think it makes him more sympathetic. 1944 was a difficult time for everyone, especially Namor. Namor is a very lonely guy, the first mutant, not fully accepted by his mother's race or the surface people. He was young and from a different culture. I feel for the guy. I really wish that the Namor/Sue/Reed love triangle would have just been put away after Reed and Sue got married. I think it was put away long before that. The final nail in the coffin of their romance was issue 27. But the big question is why Namor immediately fell for her in issue 4, and why Sue felt so strongly for him in issue 6. But that isn't the reason for my theory. It's more to do with Sue's contradictory chronology and strange secrecy. Nothing makes sense until we look at what happened when she was 15 or 16, and then everything fits IMO. |
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Post by Confessor on Dec 3, 2014 9:47:35 GMT -5
I really wish that the Namor/Sue/Reed love triangle would have just been put away after Reed and Sue got married. I'll have to respectfully disagree with you there. I think there was waaaay more mileage in the Namor/Sue/Reed love triangle of than just the early Silver Age. Really though, it's been less of a love triangle and more of a case of varying degrees of sexual tension between Sue and Namor, since Sue married Reed. The last time I was actively reading a lot of mainstream Marvel (roughly between 2006 or 2008) that sexual tension was still alive and well and most importantly, very enjoyable to read about. To me, the relationship between those three characters is as much a part of what makes the FF tick as Aunt May and Peter Parker's relationship in Spider-Man. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 17:13:02 GMT -5
I really wish that the Namor/Sue/Reed love triangle would have just been put away after Reed and Sue got married. I'll have to respectfully disagree with you there. I think there was waaaay more mileage in the Namor/Sue/Reed love triangle of than just the early Silver Age. Really though, it's been less of a love triangle and more of a case of varying degrees of sexual tension between Sue and Namor, since Sue married Reed. The last time I was actively reading a lot of mainstream Marvel (roughly between 2006 or 2008) that sexual tension was still alive and well and most importantly, very enjoyable to read about. To me, the relationship between those three characters is as much a part of what makes the FF tick as Aunt May and Peter Parker's relationship in Spider-Man. I guess for me it's a case of going back to it a few too many times. And it kind of takes me out of the story a bit that Reed has this deep respect for Namor, a guy who has kidnapped and tried to steal his girlfriend/wife multiple times. But hey comics! It seems to be something that a lot of FF fans enjoy. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Dec 3, 2014 22:04:56 GMT -5
. . .it kind of takes me out of the story a bit that Reed has this deep respect for Namor. . . Well, you gotta hand it to that man-fish. He may be crazy, but he sure could make the ladies (even his own cousin) swoon. Boinggg!
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