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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 9, 2014 20:05:06 GMT -5
I am currently reading Warriors of Plasm by the now defunct Defiant comics line. Who owns those characters now?
Also, Who owns the characters of the Broadway line, Chaos comics and all of the now cancelled comic groups ?
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Dec 9, 2014 20:17:08 GMT -5
Not an easy question to answer.Some are owned by the writer or jointly owned by the writer/artist. Some owned by the publisher.If the comic company went bancrupt, rights to the characters could have been sold to a third party
Anyone interested in reviving characters from defunct companies need to do research into the rights of ownership.Some could have fallen into public domain, some can have multiple parties claiming the rights. A lawyer's assistance might be necessary to ascertain the rights to negotiate their use
Unless you already know specifically, I wouldn't even try to hazard a guess as to who owns those rights. Even the owns who claim they do can be wrong
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 9, 2014 20:52:40 GMT -5
I was just wondering this the other day as Jim Shooter's name resurfaced. Surprised Defiant hasn't come up, but I'd like to see the characters again. The best were and Chaos got bought by Dynamite. Broadway is anyone's guess.
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Post by fanboystranger on Dec 9, 2014 23:17:20 GMT -5
I was just wondering this the other day as Jim Shooter's name resurfaced. Surprised Defiant hasn't come up, but I'd like to see the characters again. The best were and Chaos got bought by Dynamite. Broadway is anyone's guess. This is just a guess, but I'm betting that the Broadway properties are still owned by the parent Broadway group. Lorne Michaels isn't exactly known to throw things away.
I think my favorite comment on the Defiant/Broadway days was that Dave Lapham was so traumatized by having to draw all those Warriors of Plasm storycards that he created Stray Bullets as therapy. (I can't remember who said it first, but it never ceases to crack me up.)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 23:24:34 GMT -5
I am currently reading Warriors of Plasm by the now defunct Defiant comics line. Who owns those characters now? Also, Who owns the characters of the Broadway line, Chaos comics and all of the now cancelled comic groups ? Not sure who owns Chaos, I believe Brian Pulido does, but Dynamite currently has the rights to publish the Chaos characters. Tim Seeley was instrumental in launching the new line. Lady Death has had several publishers since Chaos itself went under. -M
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Post by fanboystranger on Dec 10, 2014 0:27:16 GMT -5
I am currently reading Warriors of Plasm by the now defunct Defiant comics line. Who owns those characters now? Also, Who owns the characters of the Broadway line, Chaos comics and all of the now cancelled comic groups ? Not sure who owns Chaos, I believe Brian Pulido does, but Dynamite currently has the rights to publish the Chaos characters. Tim Seeley was instrumental in launching the new line. Lady Death has had several publishers since Chaos itself went under. -M I vaguely remember an article that mentioned that Dynamite was just licensing the Chaos characters, but I think it was on Bleeding Cool, so that may have just been a rumor. That's does seem to be Dynamite's MO, though-- licensing characters or taking from public domain. They've licensed the Conde Nast characters, the King Features characters, John McClaine from Die Hard, and a bunch of others. In fact, last week they released a Shaft comic, and it was really good.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 0:36:36 GMT -5
Not sure who owns Chaos, I believe Brian Pulido does, but Dynamite currently has the rights to publish the Chaos characters. Tim Seeley was instrumental in launching the new line. Lady Death has had several publishers since Chaos itself went under. -M I vaguely remember an article that mentioned that Dynamite was just licensing the Chaos characters, but I think it was on Bleeding Cool, so that may have just been a rumor. That's does seem to be Dynamite's MO, though-- licensing characters or taking from public domain. They've licensed the Conde Nast characters, the King Features characters, John McClaine from Die Hard, and a bunch of others. In fact, last week they released a Shaft comic, and it was really good. I am pretty certain Dynamite has a license, I just forget from whom, but I think it's Pulido. Lady Death was at Boundless when Dynamite did an Evil Ernie mini in late 2012/early 2013 by Seeley and it did well enough they expanded the license and Boundless lost the LD license. WE have one subscriber at the shop who gets any and everything Chaos, so I vaguely paid attention to itcoming out and reading it was a license, but I cannot for the life of me remember if Pulido retained the rights when Chaos folded or if they were sold off. I do know Seeley wanted to work with these characters and was looking for a publisher to license them, so when Dynamite agreed he signed on the help launch it, but he has gotten bigger gigs with DC lately, so I am not sure how long he will be a part of it, but his brother? is doing some of it too. -M
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Post by Dizzy D on Dec 10, 2014 5:11:33 GMT -5
I believe, but have no immediate source, so don't take this as gospel, that Pulido pulled of a bit of shady business with the Chaos-rights (selling the rights for like a dollar one minute before filing Chaos Comics' bankruptcy). I'll look for the real story.
(Looking it up: it seems that just the rights to Lady Death were sold just before the bankruptcy, the rest were sold by auction and then hopped a couple of owners.)
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Dec 10, 2014 9:24:17 GMT -5
Unfortunatly with different publishers the characters aren't the same. Lady Death was not the same when she left Chaos. I continued to buy while she was at Avatar and the quality or at least story direction wasn't the same to me. The same thing happen to an ole bad girl favorite of mine in the 90's, Maus' Nira X: Cyberangel, when she left Entity to Avatar, as well. Maybe it's just Avatar as a publisher I don't like.
That Dark Domain looks like a good story. I've never even heard of it up until this thread.
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 10, 2014 17:06:24 GMT -5
Dark Dominion is kind of their other dimensional protector, like Dr Strange without the spells.
Yeah, I'd normally agree that Dynamite was licensing the Chaos properties, but BC floated the rumor months ago that DC was going to buy Dynamite, which is bizarre IMO.
What the heck does Dynamite own ? Maybe it was Newsarama, I don't recall at the moment, but someone, I think Nick Barucci, made it clear they bought the Chaos properties from Pulido.
I was amazed.
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Post by fanboystranger on Dec 10, 2014 22:51:31 GMT -5
Dark Dominion is kind of their other dimensional protector, like Dr Strange without the spells. Yeah, I'd normally agree that Dynamite was licensing the Chaos properties, but BC floated the rumor months ago that DC was going to buy Dynamite, which is bizarre IMO. What the heck does Dynamite own ? Maybe it was Newsarama, I don't recall at the moment, but someone, I think Nick Barucci, made it clear they bought the Chaos properties from Pulido. I was amazed. I think what DC wanted from Dynamite was to retain some East Coast infrastructure. This is all rumor, but it was speculated that Vertigo would remain in the NYC area via Dynamite's office in order to retain Mark Doyle and a few others. It was supposedly an attempt to keep Karen Berger from courting her editors for her new venture, which still hasn't materialized. (And Marvel, too, I'd have too suppose.) But I think it's more likely that the talks were more around crossover ventures like Django/Zorro. That's why the Vertigo people were meeting with Dynamite.
The Creators Unleashed books are co-owned by Dynamite, much like BOOM!'s creator-owned books. Terminal Hero is probably the best book they publish right now that doesn't have Matt Wagner's name on the cover. The first issue wasn't great, but since then, it's been a real return to form for Milligan. Probably the creepiest book on the market right now in a Cronenberg sorta way.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 11, 2014 9:07:31 GMT -5
I think Mike Baron owns the Nexus and Badger.
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 11, 2014 9:51:59 GMT -5
Pretty sure Baron co-owns Nexus with Steve Rude. Not sure if Jeffrey Butler has a share of Badger.
Cei-U! I summon the partnership!
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Post by fanboystranger on Dec 11, 2014 10:46:13 GMT -5
Pretty sure Baron co-owns Nexus with Steve Rude. Not sure if Jeffrey Butler has a share of Badger. Cei-U! I summon the partnership! Baron does share Nexus with Rude. Rude even self-published Space Opera under his own Rude Dude Productions a decade or so ago, but despite being an excellent series, it nearly ruined him financially.
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