|
|
Post by tarkintino on Oct 17, 2017 15:49:52 GMT -5
Rarely did his collages use so well known a subject from another artist. From the Fantastic Four & other superhero books, to his one-shots such as Spirit World (the "Amazing Predictions" collage), most used photos, but not art so recognizable as the creative work of another. Again, this is not some random photo or stock material. There is a difference, but I see any critical analysis of Kirby is considered to be something between a crime and blasphemy.
|
|
|
|
Post by berkley on Oct 17, 2017 19:03:55 GMT -5
I also don't think he did that collage for publication, just for his own amusement. That's my impression also, but I wasn't able to find anything to confirm it after a brief search. |
|
|
|
Post by codystarbuck on Oct 27, 2017 0:11:01 GMT -5
Rarely did his collages use so well known a subject from another artist. From the Fantastic Four & other superhero books, to his one-shots such as Spirit World (the "Amazing Predictions" collage), most used photos, but not art so recognizable as the creative work of another. Again, this is not some random photo or stock material. There is a difference, but I see any critical analysis of Kirby is considered to be something between a crime and blasphemy. There is a difference between critical analysis and character assassination. |
|
|
|
Post by Reptisaurus! on Oct 27, 2017 15:50:31 GMT -5
I also don't think he did that collage for publication, just for his own amusement. Other examples:  Ooh, I kinda like that one. Props for formalistic ingenuity and integrating elements of visual art into comics in a way that had never been done before... Which led to Lynda Barry's stuff, and Lynda Barry is flat out my favorite comics artist/writer/creator ever... And I'm really interested in the bleed-through between comics and the visual arts so I like seeing people in the "low" arts inspired by Scwitters(sp?) and Hamilton... But I just don't think a lot of Kirby's collage is very good.  |
|
|
|
Post by berkley on Oct 27, 2017 18:04:27 GMT -5
I also don't think he did that collage for publication, just for his own amusement. Other examples: Ooh, I kinda like that one. Props for formalistic ingenuity and integrating elements of visual art into comics in a way that had never been done before... Which led to Lynda Barry's stuff, and Lynda Barry is flat out my favorite comics artist/writer/creator ever... And I'm really interested in the bleed-through between comics and the visual arts so I like seeing people in the "low" arts inspired by Scwitters(sp?) and Hamilton... But I just don't think a lot of Kirby's collage is very good. I think most of the ones that appeared in comics come across as failed experiments - if only because the low-quality black and white reproductions didn't allow them to be seen that well. However, I think it's really cool that the experiment was made - repeatedly. Obviously it was something Kirby was interested in and kept working at. Pretty impressive outside-the-box thinking for a superhero comic in 1967 or whatever. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 9:07:08 GMT -5
Entertainment Weekly has a feature on Kirby and the Kirby Centenniel.... hereInteresting read, intended for a general audience, not a hardcore fan, it's a decent introduction to who Kirby is for someone who isn't steeped in comic lore. -M |
|
|
|
Post by codystarbuck on Oct 28, 2017 11:08:43 GMT -5
Entertainment Weekly has a feature on Kirby and the Kirby Centenniel.... hereInteresting read, intended for a general audience, not a hardcore fan, it's a decent introduction to who Kirby is for someone who isn't steeped in comic lore. -M Good, basic article, though this statement does lead you to believe that the Fantastic Four and the Marvel Age began around 1945: "After returning home from the war, Kirby teamed up with Stan Lee and Marvel owner Martin Goodman, and together they came up with the Fantastic Four" There is a good 15 years of work there, that gets glossed over, including Simon & Kirby's failed attempt at publishing. Not surprised that all of the artwork is from DC, since EW is a Warner-owned magazine. That was an annoying thing in that Master of Comic Book Art video, from the 80s (hosted by Harlan Ellison), where Kirby (and Ditko, Adams, Wrightson, Miller, Moebius, Eisner, Kurtzman, and Sim) is interviewed, but all of the images are from DC or the independents. |
|
|
|
Post by Icctrombone on Oct 30, 2017 6:25:47 GMT -5
From NYCC and done by SyFy Wire, here's part of a segment with Walt Simonson and John Byrne talking Kirby... -M Was this interview conducted this year? |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 7:12:54 GMT -5
From NYCC and done by SyFy Wire, here's part of a segment with Walt Simonson and John Byrne talking Kirby... -M Was this interview conducted this year? Yes. There was a lot of Kirby related panels/programming at NYCC his year to celebrate the centennial. -M |
|
|
|
Post by Icctrombone on Oct 30, 2017 8:05:49 GMT -5
Byrne seemed like a decent person.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 12:28:18 GMT -5
Byrne seemed like a decent person. He was with friends and away from fans?!?  -M |
|
|
|
Post by String on Oct 30, 2017 17:50:37 GMT -5
Entertainment Weekly has a feature on Kirby and the Kirby Centenniel.... hereInteresting read, intended for a general audience, not a hardcore fan, it's a decent introduction to who Kirby is for someone who isn't steeped in comic lore. -M Yes, I was very surprised to see this feature in my copy. Turn the page and there's Kamandi and Darkseid! A very broad intro on Kirby (though interesting that Gerads and King of the current Mister Miracle mini were interviewed) but it's great seeing Kirby receive recognition in such a publication. |
|
|
|
Post by brutalis on Nov 7, 2017 8:28:54 GMT -5
Found this today being solicited on Amazon:
The Prisoner Jack Kirby Gil Kane Art Edition Hardcover – June 12, 2018
by Jack Kirby (Author), Gil Kane (Illustrator) .Script by Jack Kirby and Steve Englehart.
$38.20
Drawn by two of the true great comic book legends, Jack Kirby and Gil Kane, this is a facsimile collection of a 'long-lost', unpublished legendary comic book based on the cult classic 1967 British TV show, The Prisoner, co-created, written, directed and starring Patrick McGoohan (Scanners, Braveheart).
Will have to see what further information surfaces on this but methinks would be a splendid buy for lovers of Kirby and Kane. Somewhat of a "Holy Grail" often spoken of and wondered about.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 22:52:27 GMT -5
Posted by Kurt Busiek on his facebook pageI think I like it too. It's an elegant way to acknowledge the contributions of both and recognize Kirby wasn't just the Marvel art monkey but also that Lee wasn't just the dialogue monkey either. -M |
|
|
|
Post by berkley on Dec 22, 2017 0:04:12 GMT -5
Posted by Kurt Busiek on his facebook pageI think I like it too. It's an elegant way to acknowledge the contributions of both and recognize Kirby wasn't just the Marvel art monkey but also that Lee wasn't just the dialogue monkey either. -M That is a good way to put it, and to be fair to Stan I always thought he was making an effort in that direction with the credits on the old FF and Thor splash pages where they would usually just say "presented by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby" or something along those lines, without designating one as the writer and one as the artist. |
|
