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Post by tingramretro on May 11, 2017 3:07:46 GMT -5
As the OP, let me clarify : Professional comic fanzines, like, but not limited to anything put out from the outstanding TwoMorrows, including The Jack Kirby Collector, Alter Ego, Back Issue and other pro-zines including Fantagraphics' The Comics Journal, Amazing Heroes and other from before 2007 like The Buyer's Guide for Comic Book Fandom, Comic Buyers Guide, Rocket's Blast Comic Collector (RBCC), The Comics Readers, Comic Times, Comics Interview, Comic Book Artist, Comics Scene, Marvel Age, Amazing World of DC Comics, Wizard, Comic Collector, etc. Most of the publications listed above are indexed at the GCD (https://www.comics.org/). Could we live with a rule that any publication that is in the GCD is eligible for the cover contest? Does that mean that any publication that isn't wouldn't qualify? |
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Post by tingramretro on May 11, 2017 3:03:01 GMT -5
I classify a comic as being a a publication that has a story with sequential art. Fanzines are publications that have articles and critiques of publications that have stories with sequential art. Just because CBG hire Perez to do a cover doesn't make it a comic Dez Skinn's long running reviews/previews/interviews magazine Comics International was essentially a pro-zine, but it still occasionally featured original comic stories by professional creators. So did Crikey! Would that qualify? Those issues are publications with stories that have sequential art... |
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Post by tingramretro on May 11, 2017 2:56:21 GMT -5
I really don't see what the problem is.
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Post by tingramretro on May 11, 2017 2:53:32 GMT -5
#28 was one of the first back issues of X-Men i had ever read. Loved it from the git-go, since i was reading the Thomas/Adams books, i dug the chance to see the earlier stuff. Loved the Werner Roth take... almost getting a Gibbons vibe from the last panel shown here. And i waited YEARS for the Ogre to show up again! Every time some blurb would say "A Threat from the Past" or some such, a little bulb would go off in the back of my head and say "Finally! The Ogre's back!" Ogre was a favourite of mine, too. I was really rather disappointed that they did so little with him when they finally revived him in Thunderbolts. |
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Post by tingramretro on May 11, 2017 1:57:07 GMT -5
I honestly didn't think there were this many roller coaster covers... I thought of another I could have used this morning...might post it after the voting's over... |
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Post by tingramretro on May 10, 2017 13:27:47 GMT -5
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Post by tingramretro on May 10, 2017 13:12:56 GMT -5
Damn, that was the one I wanted to go for! One of my favourite villain teams... |
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Post by tingramretro on May 10, 2017 8:51:15 GMT -5
Yes they are not covers. And fanzines are not comics. I will abid by the final decision but I doubt I would ever vote for anything that's not An actual comic. What do you define as an actual comic? Were Savage Sword of Conan or Marvel Preview comics? They were full of sequential art and word balloons but were definitely magazines, I'd say! So, can a magazine be a comic, but only if it contains no non comics material? Heavy Metal is a mix of both. Is it not a comic? Come to think of it, an awful lot of British comics are actually magazines, including much of the former output of Marvel UK, and the Judge Dredd Megazine, but I defy anyone to claim that they don't qualify as comics. |
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Post by tingramretro on May 10, 2017 7:45:37 GMT -5
Then why stop at fanzines? Let's post any type of comic art including pin ups and splash pages. After all, it's all about nice art right ? Because they're not covers. |
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Post by tingramretro on May 10, 2017 5:46:16 GMT -5
I guess we would have to change the title to Classic Cover Contest and leave out the Comics part. Why? if it's the cover of a comic, it's a comic cover. If it's comic art on the cover of a comics fanzine, it's a comic cover. Just a slightly different meaning of the same words. |
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Post by tingramretro on May 9, 2017 3:19:22 GMT -5
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Post by tingramretro on May 8, 2017 15:13:59 GMT -5
How is it unfair? We vote on the art, surely. Familiarity with it is irrelevant. Why would it lead to trouble? Fanzines in my mind is done by unprofessional artists and I consider them an non-official publication that's use to promote comics in many ways shape or form. I just have a difficult time considering them for the contest alone and having said that it's very difficult for me to accept them as they are. If you read the wikipedia link it's makes the contest cheapen and discredit the contest and that's where trouble arises. If we allow them to enter the contest ... my participation will cease to exist and I won't have these covers in the contest and I just can't accept them at all. If you disagree with me - that's fine with me and please don't debate it and I'm sticking to my guns because these publications are done on the spot and generally done by fans from all walks of life. That's term fanzine came from. Sorry, I just can't not accept them at face value. Fanzine WikipediaYou have some very odd ideas about fanzines. "Cheapen and discredit the contest"? That's absurd. And, speaking as someone who has worked on fanzines and prozines before now, frankly insulting! |
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Post by tingramretro on May 8, 2017 12:52:03 GMT -5
I could have sworn I posted a response to this thread but it seems to have vanished...anyway, I voted yes. As I said (or, apparently, didn't), I don't really understand the term "comic book" anyway, as we don't generally use it here. Comics are comics, wherever and in whatever format they're found. You'd posted your response over in the Perez cover contest thread, in response to Hondo's post there: classiccomics.org/post/212861/threadAh, that makes sense...my mind is not what it used to be... |
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Post by tingramretro on May 8, 2017 12:51:02 GMT -5
No to fanzines because I'm not a fan of those Hondo, and I feel that we should stick with actual Comic Books Only. Fanzines will led us to trouble and I felt it is not fair for those aren't familiar with them. Personally, I don't care for them at all and it's makes it even more difficult for me to vote for. How is it unfair? We vote on the art, surely. Familiarity with it is irrelevant. Why would it lead to trouble? |
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Post by tingramretro on May 8, 2017 6:04:10 GMT -5
I could have sworn I posted a response to this thread but it seems to have vanished...anyway, I voted yes. As I said (or, apparently, didn't), I don't really understand the term "comic book" anyway, as we don't generally use it here. Comics are comics, wherever and in whatever format they're found.
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