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Post by MDG on Jan 22, 2024 11:29:41 GMT -5
So which long-established pros did retain full command of their artistic skills late in their careers? (...) Walt Simsonson Sergio Aragones Will Eisner
Gil Kane
John Severin Kim Deitch Spain Rodriguez Bill Griffith Robert Crumb
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Post by MDG on Jan 22, 2024 10:24:26 GMT -5
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Post by MDG on Jan 22, 2024 10:00:37 GMT -5
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Post by MDG on Jan 21, 2024 11:28:38 GMT -5
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Post by MDG on Jan 21, 2024 8:15:04 GMT -5
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Post by MDG on Jan 20, 2024 16:51:25 GMT -5
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Post by MDG on Jan 20, 2024 9:02:20 GMT -5
That Phantom #518
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Post by MDG on Jan 20, 2024 8:56:24 GMT -5
Blimey, Prince Hal ! I didn’t know they’d be quite like that! This book, now out of print, is an illustrated compendium of "what you ordered" vs "what you really got."
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Post by MDG on Jan 20, 2024 8:41:43 GMT -5
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Post by MDG on Jan 19, 2024 15:14:18 GMT -5
I love Aurora's back cover ads
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Post by MDG on Jan 19, 2024 15:07:58 GMT -5
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Post by MDG on Jan 18, 2024 14:45:11 GMT -5
With Stan I think there was a certain insecurity in the knowledge that family connections got him the job, in the first place (as a gopher at timely) and kept him there when Martin Goodman fired everyone else. Then there is the desire to be the Great American Novelist and a complete dearth of published novels or even talk of unpublished manuscripts. The only prose work I have heard of was that book about making money writing comics. By contrast, guys like Edmond Hamilton, Gardner Fox and Arnold Drake had published prose work or screenplays. I don't know if Stan never applied himself, lacked the confidence to try or just wasn't good enough to write and sell a novel.... Without trying to psychoanalyze Stan from time and distance, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a piece of it. As an editor-in-chief/marketer/cheerleader, it's pretty amazing what Stan did with Marvel. And he seemed a lot more directly involved in some of the creative end than folks like Gaines, Feldstein, or Warren (thanks for that quote, tarkintino). But it seems like he couldn't recognize that aspect of his job as enough. He had to be responsible for it all. But their work both in and out of Marvel throughout their careers showed that Kirby and Ditko were natural comic book storytellers. They were both singular talents in an industry that didn't always appreciate them.
I'm don't think that without the triumvirate of Kirby and Ditko and Lee all being in that place at that time Marvel would've happened. The lackluster starts of Daredevil, Hulk, Ant-Man and others--characters that weren't Kirby or Ditko's "babys"--kind've leads to their importance to the creative process. I don't think that Wood's stint on Daredevil was a stellar as others do, but he could handle the plotting/storytelling part near as well and Kirby and Ditko, and was shown the door when he insisted on being compensated for it.
Like Bob Kane, after a while Stan Lee decided to make "Stan Lee" his greatest creation.
But I think it can be boiled down mathematically:
(Kirby-Lee) > (Lee - Kirby) (Ditko - Lee) > (Lee - Kirby)
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Post by MDG on Jan 18, 2024 14:14:30 GMT -5
Big Boy Comics #470
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Post by MDG on Jan 18, 2024 10:33:23 GMT -5
I'll cop that I haven't watched this whole thing, but the first part is a great look at an early comic shop.
Some of you may want to lay down a tarp for when your head explodes from seeing people handle Gold and Silver Age books that are not even bagged.
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Post by MDG on Jan 18, 2024 10:26:24 GMT -5
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